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My hunch is

The motorbike/vehicle was heard/seen in the distance leaving/returning to the property in two different locations.

The motorbike imagery is significant.

Josh has suspected the grandparents all along and is absolutely furious with them and unable to contain his emotions towards them which is why he has never spoken publicly.

JMO
 
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If there was a legitimate reason to have one then why not have a licence for it..
Hi, they are illegal to own except in highly restricted circumstances. No one would get a license for farm use, however I believe they would be a useful item on a farm.
 
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My hunch is

The motorbike/vehicle was heard/seen in the distance leaving/returning to the property in two different locations.

The motorbike imagery is significant.

Josh has suspected the grandparents all along and is absolutely furious with them and unable to contain his emotions towards them which is why he has never spoken publicly.

JMO
Yes, it makes total sense that Josh suspected or knew it was one or both of the grandparents from the start. I also wondered whether this was one of the things that was reported to have been "said that couldn't be unsaid" at the time in reference to strained relations between Josh and Jess/other family members. Perhaps Jess was initially in denial.

I wonder which grandparent rides the motorbike?
 
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Besides, IMO,
JL was treated abominably by not being informed immediately of the boy's disappearance.

Gus is his son,
JL has parental rights.
Equal rights to mother.

Being told by Police and not family,
many hours later,
the next day in the morning,
is difficult to understand.

In case of emergency concerning the child,
all previous disagreements should not count.

The child is the most important,
and nothing else matters.

Not to mention,
it was reported he was still not welcomed when he arrived to participate in the search.

It says a lot.
Now, it is another damning element,
especially as one resident is considered a suspect.

JMO
 
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Moo....it would be Jesse's responsibility to contact Josh, I would think. Josh did live and work on the farm previously. We do not know the reason he left other there were disagreements. It does take two people to argue. ..moo
 
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Moo....it would be Jesse's responsibility to contact Josh, I would think. Josh did live and work on the farm previously. We do not know the reason he left other there were disagreements. It does take two people to argue. ..moo

Arguments mean nothing
when a child is IN DANGER!!!

But, of course, in case of (alleged) foul play,
nothing is surprising.

Just another red flag.

:rolleyes:

JMO
 
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Arguments mean nothing
when a child is IN DANGER!!!

But, of course, in case of (alleged) foul play,
nothing is surprising.

Just another red flag.

:rolleyes:

JMO
From my understanding a policeman told Josh that his son was missing in person. September 27th was grand final day and drinking goes hand in hand with football. I’m not ruling out that Jess tried to contact him but was unable to get a response .

Another interesting point is a road was blocked and police had to access an area by helicopter because of it. That is uncooperative behaviour and could explain the change in police attitude towards Josie.

JMO
 
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Yes, it makes total sense that Josh suspected or knew it was one or both of the grandparents from the start. I also wondered whether this was one of the things that was reported to have been "said that couldn't be unsaid" at the time in reference to strained relations between Josh and Jess/other family members. Perhaps Jess was initially in denial.

I wonder which grandparent rides the motorbike?
Jess more than likely was too overwhelmed by worry, fear and panic to think straight at the time.

It looks like Shannon is riding the motorbike on the imagery photo because of the hair. This very well could be a subliminal message.
More than likely both grandparents ride the motorbike at times.

It was said at the police press conference that the body may have still been on the property when police were initially called and the body was later moved. It appears a tracker noticed something unusual, not sure what it was.


Edited to add: ‘several items of interest’ were seen by a tracker.
That is very important information .

JMO
 
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DBM
 
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Do you discount the possibility of him wandering away and becoming lost?

(Of course now with LE's latest announcement it does seem unlikely. But did you discount it from the start?)
IMO - I never believed he wandered off, not for one single second. I have no clue what did happen, however the first released story of him having ‘wandered off’ never rang true for me. MOO
 
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Sorry to return to this contentious subject (might be my last post on the subject for a while), but I think you will find that this was trespassing. There was a No Trespassing sign (I have posted the image a couple of times). Plus the police had asked/told the media to stay away. That changes things.

The following article is about a South Australian case. Someone was awarded a civil monetary award ($40,000) by the courts because the police served him a summons at his home when he had a No Trespassing sign up.


.... officers should be aware that occupiers of premises can revoke the common law implied licence to enter their premises either by having a visible sign at the premises, by verbal revocation or by physical barrier (e.g. closed gates).

In such circumstances, absent any statutory authority or warrant to enter the premises, entry may be unauthorised and could amount to trespass and an adverse award of damages.

IMO - 99% of the time, I agree with everything you post. Not this time though SA, <modsnip- personalizing> MOO
 
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Another interesting point is a road was blocked and police had to access an area by helicopter because of it. That is uncooperative behaviour and could explain the change in police attitude towards Josie.
It looks like Shannon is riding the motorbike on the imagery photo because of the hair.

Could you possibly provide a source for these two points?
I must have missed some articles. Thanks
 
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dbm already asked
 
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Could you possibly provide a source for these two points?
I must have missed some articles. Thanks

This article mentions the road block.
It can be double checked but I dare not say how incase I get blasted again.

I have sent information on the bike in another post further down…
 
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From my understanding a policeman told Josh that his son was missing in person. September 27th was grand final day and drinking goes hand in hand with football. I’m not ruling out that Jess tried to contact him but was unable to get a response .

Another interesting point is a road was blocked and police had to access an area by helicopter because of it. That is uncooperative behaviour and could explain the change in police attitude towards Josie.

JMO
Source please ?
 
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It looks like Shannon is riding the motorbike on the imagery photo because of the hair. This very well could be a subliminal message.
Could you possibly provide a source for these two points?
I must have missed some articles. Thanks

The person on the motorbike is obviously Shannon ....... OR ANY OTHER PERSON WITH SIMILAR HAIR!!
 
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Not to mention,
it was reported he was still not welcomed when he arrived to participate in the search.
I need a refresher on the source for that too. Thanks
 
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That screen shot was taken from the Police Presser - at about 13.35 on this video…..



Could you possibly provide a source for these two points?
I must have missed some articles. Thanks
The bike can be seen on the post from Marg944 at about 13.35
 

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