Australia - Allison Baden-Clay, 43, Brisbane QLD, 19 April 2012 - #10

[tarjessi]

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...-brookfield-show/story-e6freon6-1226361200946

This article just posted - mentions a third car - the crashed one:

"The Sunday Mail was this week told police seized a third car relating to the murder of Mrs Baden-Clay.

It is understood the car was seized for mechanical examination by the Forensic Crash Unit after Mr Baden-Clay crashed it near the Indooroopilly Shopping Centre bus terminal on Sunday, April 22.

The car, a friend's vehicle, is believed to have been handed back to general duty police."

 

[JK673]

sorry schmickthespy please don't leave,

people this is not fair...... why are new posters being discriminated against? make sure you know what you're saying and that you are saying it to the right person please?

They are not being discriminated against, just being asked to maybe read more posts rather than rehashing old ground, that is why there is a links thread etc supplied. No need for offence to be ongoing, it was just a simple, but yes, frustrated request to maybe read some previous posts, especially the ones about the kids not being at home that night, it was one that really annoyed me how people kept saying it was unusual on a school night, never said anything then, then it was in the paper as the kids not being home and then the question arose again......others understood the frustration I had.

Btw, talk of frustration was in explaining to schmick my original response to another poster and now I have offended her....you stay schmick, all good, i will nick off and just read the posts. (said with absolutely no offence intended and i am smiling too) see? Lets concentrate on hoping the police get the person who did this...

 

[minni]

Thanks Willough. You're right, I'll stick around and just do some more reading for a while though

being on this forum longer doesnt equate to having more knowledge on the murder of Allison Baden Clay.......tell anyone who picks on you to kindly F&^K OFF...thats what we all do!!!!! there aren't that many nasty people on here...everyone wants the same thing really...and impatient people should just log off, have a nap, and come back when they arent feeling so petty.anyway, welcome, be loud I say!!!!

 

[willough]

How he got the scratches? Maybe a bit rough with TM the night before? IMO maybe TM was also subjected to some abusive behaviour?

Oh, I hope not.....As much as I dont like the fact she had an affair....Id never wish that on her.

 

[pudwink]

Ms Walker said one of the last times she had coffee with her best friend; there was no sign of trouble.

``She said things were good. She was happy,'' Mrs Walker said.`

I guess it could depend on when exactly was the last time her friend had coffee with Allison. Was it the day before? 5 days? If Allison had come to some inner resolution about her marriage, perhaps she was feeling happy at that point. Just a thought...

 

[itsthevibe]

I didn't ask for any links!! I think I a being confused with someone else right now?? ALL I said was that I THOUGHT it had been thrown around that perhaps the children were not there that night??? I'm done with this.

I didn't say that you in particular asked for links. I was responding to your post where you said you felt it a bit much to go through all of the threads and read them first. ( I wasn't responding to your post about the children, not sure what you mean there.) I thought I was being helpful in suggesting the timeline and just skimming through a few discussions to get up to speed without having to read heaps of stuff.

Sorry if I gave the wrong impression, definitely not intended.

 

[Ixnaye]

Yep, we did just that last night didn't we. lol. I fear I was misunderstood in what I was trying to express last night. I was going to explain more. But I guess its probably water under the bridge now.

There are all sorts of personalities on here. And I guess its unfortunately a given that at times they may clash. I think its best if we can all try to respect each others opinions and try not to take our frustrations or irritations out on others. (I'm not really speaking in regards specifically to the issues being discussed here, as I have only just logged on and not read all..just giving my 2 cents)

Yes UnfoldingTruth we did do exactly that last night, we agreed to disagree and moved on and stayed mates eace:

PS I did understand the point you were making last night though

 

[CaseClosed]

Oh, I hope not.....As much as I dont like the fact she had an affair....Id never wish that on her.

Once a cheater, always a cheater. Once an abuser, always an abuser (specially after the "honeymoon" period was over, i.e. 18 months plus of affair) IMO.

 

[minni]

They are not being discriminated against, just being asked to maybe read more posts rather than rehashing old ground, that is why there is a links thread etc supplied. No need for offence to be ongoing, it was just a simple, but yes, frustrated request to maybe read some previous posts, especially the ones about the kids not being at home that night, it was one that really annoyed me how people kept saying it was unusual on a school night, never said anything then, then it was in the paper as the kids not being home and then the question arose again......others understood the frustration I had.

Btw, talk of frustration was in explaining to schmick my original response to another poster and now I have offended her....you stay schmick, all good, i will nick off and just read the posts. (said with absolutely no offence intended and i am smiling too) see? Lets concentrate on hoping the police get the person who did this...

thanks JK, I hear you, to make valuable contributions, you need the basic info....is where you are coming from smile

 

[pudwink]

can I say just briefly, off topic, children often have the most incredible intuition.

 

[willough]

I keep thinking about this crash at Indooroopilly. I keep thinking about the car....I keep thinking that the car crash was a ruse......almost as if they thought that if they crashed that car, it may lay empthasis on that car deliberately, whilst under the polices noses......another car was being freed of forensic evidence....I cannot seem to get my mind off it. They were deflecting something at that given time..

 

[CaseClosed]

Exactly my hubby's thoughts.....Son (7) Didnt like him....and daughter (11) said oh no mum, please get rid of that picture, he is scary...he is a bad man. I rather latched on to her comment. When I told her what had happened, she said his eyes are scary, almost like he is waiting to do something.....Mature little monkey I have.

At the time, none of them knew what the photo was about...Didnt know the case.

Also, in the black & white family photo he is in the centre of the pic and she is to one side. Why not both together in the centre, with the girls in front of them?

 

[willough]

Once a cheater, always a cheater. Once an abuser, always an abuser (specially after the "honeymoon" period was over, i.e. 18 months plus of affair) IMO.

Agree....Just wouldnt wish abuse on anyone.

Now, if she was involved in the murder of Allison, I think we all throw tomatoes at her

 

[willough]

Also, in the black & white family photo he is in the centre of the pic and she is to one side. Why not both together in the centre, with the girls in front of them?

Yep and in the engagement photo, he is sitting above her....Which made me wonder if he was a shorter man, than her. This often gives the impressio nthe man is taller.

 

[dansw]

I keep thinking about this crash at Indooroopilly. I keep thinking about the car....I keep thinking that the car crash was a ruse......almost as if they thought that if they crashed that car, it may lay empthasis on that car deliberately, whilst under the polices noses......another car was being freed of forensic evidence....I cannot seem to get my mind off it. They were deflecting something at that given time..

I agree Willough, there is more to the crash. I hadn't considered it a diversion though....good thinking.

 

[royster]

I guess it could depend on when exactly was the last time her friend had coffee with Allison. Was it the day before? 5 days? If Allison had come to some inner resolution about her marriage, perhaps she was feeling happy at that point. Just a thought...

Allison would have been very good at separating her feelings-like you say inner resolution. Impossible to be the mother she was - focused and hands on and not have strategies to deal with the situation. That front she had would have been second nature to her- I don't believe she let anyone in on her inner tickings. Mum would have known to some degree but I think she even spared her a lot of pain. Sad, but I believe she thought that she made her bed and now must lie in it... Classic over-achieving trait also, to not want to admit failure - failure being I married a dud.

IMO

 

[UnfoldingTruth]

Yes UnfoldingTruth we did do exactly that last night, we agreed to disagree and moved on and stayed mates eace:

PS I did understand the point you were making last night though

Glad..I went to sleep thinking about how I should have expressed it lol, as it doesn't always comeout right.

 

[marlywings]

thanks JK, I hear you, to make valuable contributions, you need the basic info....is where you are coming from smile

I hear JK too...it's kind of like picking up a new book & reading it from the middle on...never knowing what the first half of the book was about.

Perhaps some newbies might be interested in this thread...another member has gone to great lengths gathering together all the news reports related to this case....

[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7871813#post7871813"]AU-Allison Baden-Clay,43,Brisbane QLD, 19April2012 MEDIA/TIMELINE LINKS,NO DISCUSSION - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]

 

[CaseClosed]

Allison would have been very good at separating her feelings-like you say inner resolution. Impossible to be the mother she was - focused and hands on and not have strategies to deal with the situation. That front she had would have been second nature to her- I don't believe she let anyone in on her inner tickings. Mum would have known to some degree but I think she even spared her a lot of pain. Sad, but I believe she thought that she made her bed and now must lie in it... Classic over-achieving trait also, to not want to admit failure - failure being I married a dud.

IMO

Agree. I think the key word here is "Failure" and not wanting to publicly recognise that she picked the wrong partner (been there, done that). She hadn't been a failure at anything else, i.e. successful career, great mother from what we hear, etc. Also, facing the world alone with 3 young kids is not easy, even if she could have resurrected here career, she would have struggled for some time.

 

[Shelby2]

I agree Willough, there is more to the crash. I hadn't considered it a diversion though....good thinking.

I think he wanted to hit it- hard-and chickened out.