Australia - Allison Baden-Clay, 43, Brisbane QLD, 19 April 2012 - #14

[angel1]

And why a dry wedding and not a cash bar? Cash bar would come in to it if people were welcome to drink, but the bride and groom didn't want to (or couldn't) pay for the free booze. So it has to come down to either religion or a close family member with a serious drinking problem. MOO

I'm actually getting married october next year and my partner and i are refusing to have alcohol at our wedding. We have no reason why we want it that way we just do. I guess whether people have alcohol at their wedding is each persons personal choice. My sister also got married in 1992 and she had no alcohol at her wedding either. But then i have also been to weddings where all people do is drink then they usually spoil what was an awesome day

 

[marlywings]

Good point. However, I think people would have had a bit more respect if they appeared as genuinely greiving people. I don't know of anyone who is that cold. Sorry, but I will never be able to understand their actions at all. I think the general public has shed more tears than them.

Something isn't right there. IMO

Then there's the "we just want to be normal"....Allison was still missing at that time....how could anyone say that in such horrible circumstances.

IF this all turns out that GBC is the guilty one I think there'll then be an absolute barrage of resentment towards not only GBC but to all his family as well.

 

[UnfoldingTruth]

in terms of a media - I think it is someone who looks for the limelight and loves to push self promotion at every media opportunity - please tell me that you don't think his blog his speeches his profile within the community aren't designed to self promote?

I think yes if you are in the sought of business that he is in..in fact any sales area there is some degree of self promotion. I have not read more than a couple of his blog spots. But I don't take that to what I consider a Media to be. Just because you self promote in your professional life, doesn't necessarily mean in other situations you would be comfortable doing so. Just MOO, though.

 

[UnfoldingTruth]

Then there's the "we just want to be normal"....Allison was still missing at that time....how could anyone say that in such horrible circumstances.

IF this all turns out that GBC is the guilty one I think there'll then be an absolute barrage of resentment towards not only GBC but to all his family as well.

I sought of think there might already be. Judging by alot of comments.

 

[Fuskier]

Thanks Inanna...maybe I have been had..I feel so distraught. I really cant explain it, but I am aware of and reasonably well read on sociopaths and as such I shouldn't be feeling so upset as I do. I don't understand my reaction to this but should probably take a time out

IMO It was from his 'public persona' you were reading. This is what he wanted to present at a public level. And it sounds convincing too. This is why it does our heads in when we grapple with another opposing side of the same person. We say: "No, not him...couldn't be...he sounds...so...so...reasonable!". But 'talking the talk' is one thing and 'walking the talk' is another.

 

[Cheekymonkey]

We teach our kids about 'stranger danger' and tell them to go with their gut feeling about people. As we get older other things come into play such as maturity and trying to rationalise people's behaviour or choices because we may not be able to believe that people can do bad things when we are not capable of doing the same. In my opinion that gut feeling is still right on most occasions. Sure it can be wrong sometimes. But not as often as it is right. I'm betting most people on this forum are here because after watching that first interview, their gut feeling told them something. Don't sell yourselves short .

 

[Makara]

Is this NBC driving the gold Suzuki? If so, what happened to the Bwana car? Impounded perhaps?

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[Strangeworld]

Is this NBC driving the gold Suzuki? If so, what happened to the Bwana car? Impounded perhaps?

Click image to enlarge.

I'm pretty sure I saw the BWANA number plates on the news tonight regarding the move from BGC's offices. So probably not impounded.

 

[Pullenvaler]

Interesting Kimster. I wrote a post yesterday and it has been tken down. No idea why. Can only imagine the old USA freedom of speech blather is really as much of a lie as is GBCs spiel on "honesty and integrity". Anyway, this site has been taken over by people who are determined to resurrect GBCs "good name". They are almost certainly a handful of family members who are covering up the real truth. An innocent man would be screaming his innocence to the world. He would be ANGRY to have been implicated and he would be trying to clear his own name by letting the truth be told.
His family members should hang their heads in shame that they are alowing this cover up to go on. Especially as his sister and her husband have jobs requiring an extraordinary amount of integrity; how can they not think that enouragement to "do the right thing" would be the way a caring family should behave?
I once stole a lolly at a shop when i was 5 and my Dad walked me all the way back to the shop and let the shopkeeper roar at me. Then he hugged me and told me that honesty is important and he bought me another lolly.THAT is what a loving family member does. They dont become complicit in the crime by being silent and ignorant.

 

[minni]

Exactly!! If Gerard is honestly innocent {as opposed to found not guilty and is really guilty} it can never change the fact of how cold his family has been. IMO even if a family is private they still don't act like that. As I said before, it's like they have no feelings. They should have been really worried when she went missing, and in total shock when her body was found. At the funeral they should have been really cut up. Geez, they don't even look like they've been crying behind closed doors. I couldn't even PRETEND not to care. How do they just breeze through this? Are the little girls being comforted enough?

I went to the funeral of someone I'd never met last year {Rellie of hubby} and I started crying when the photos came up.

This family actually knew her very well, she gave them grandchildren. Look at all of the people who have been deeply affected over this who have never even laid eyes on her... what is the BC's problem?? Surely somewhere in there must beat a heart?? ... maybe not.

It doenst seem so does it? to give them the benefit of the doubt, they come froma different culture...however, did they grow up here or in africa? because, IMO, unless they grew up and LIVED THE RHODESIAN LIFE, they shouldn't be a people who come across so "COLD".

FOR EXAMPLE, my mother is english and my husbands family is white NZ (no idea if that is ok etiquette haha someone will tell me) but we are true blue aussies through and through. You don't make them more aussie than us. My point is....regardless of our parents heritage, we grew up here and anyone who meets us will know it straight away. I get that the BC's have a bit of pride in their name....

I don't think you can shrug away their indifference towards Allison based on their 'pride and upbringing', because, quite frankly, from a business perspective, on 'meet the team C21' ,they portray themselves very very differently than they have allowed the media to portray them, which, IMO, is:

COLD, CALCULATING, UNCARING, UNINTERESTED AND UNMOVED members of Allison's family.

sorry, still here

 

[minni]

I'm actually getting married october next year and my partner and i are refusing to have alcohol at our wedding. We have no reason why we want it that way we just do. I guess whether people have alcohol at their wedding is each persons personal choice. My sister also got married in 1992 and she had no alcohol at her wedding either. But then i have also been to weddings where all people do is drink then they usually spoil what was an awesome day

I apologise for earlier making light of peoples choices before, that was not cool.
Congratulations Angel, your wedding will no doubt be wonderful, you're right I have seen some silly people ruin special nights before, so way to go xx

 

[Keentoknow]

As was alluded to in an earlier thread, one can be very good at 'speaking the speak' ; but 'walking the talk' is a different matter. E.g. I recall from on earlier thread on this forum, that the alleged POI kept notes on conversations with people, but did not really bother with the relationship all that much. I recall that this 'scared' some people who had subsequent dealing with the POI because he remembered the dogs name etc. It turned out that he had kept notes of only cursory conversation.

Fuskier.
I agree. He has a long, long, walk ahead of him, and it's all uphill.

What will he do for and income now the the shop is shut?

How would he manage with less income to provide for the girls and pay barrister fees?

I like everyone else I would not like to see Allisons beautiful daughters having visit him in prison. This would surely break the Dixies heart.

 

[marlywings]

I sought of think there might already be. Judging by alot of comments.

That there is for sure...but if any arrests are made some time soon this resentment will go through the roof. Wondering if police are taking this into consideration at all??...waiting until interest in the case decreases then go in for the arrest??

Then again perhaps the arrests will be some time soon & is part of the reason for the BC's seemingly absence from their home??

 

[wakeskate]

Is this NBC driving the gold Suzuki? If so, what happened to the Bwana car? Impounded perhaps?

It's probably more that he doesn't want to be identified at the moment. Understandable.

 

[Greg]

Interesting Kimster. I wrote a post yesterday and it has been tken down. No idea why. Can only imagine the old USA freedom of speech blather is really as much of a lie as is GBCs spiel on "honesty and integrity". Anyway, this site has been taken over by people who are determined to resurrect GBCs "good name". They are almost certainly a handful of family members who are covering up the real truth. An innocent man would be screaming his innocence to the world. He would be ANGRY to have been implicated and he would be trying to clear his own name by letting the truth be told.
His family members should hang their heads in shame that they are alowing this cover up to go on. Especially as his sister and her husband have jobs requiring an extraordinary amount of integrity; how can they not think that enouragement to "do the right thing" would be the way a caring family should behave?
I once stole a lolly at a shop when i was 5 and my Dad walked me all the way back to the shop and let the shopkeeper roar at me. Then he hugged me and told me that honesty is important and he bought me another lolly.THAT is what a loving family member does. They dont become complicit in the crime by being silent and ignorant.

Thank you and well said Pullen!!!!

 

[minni]

Minni, you're deeply attached to this case as we all are. The transcript shows a different side to the GBC that we have all created. In saying that we all must realise that by surmising someone's character based on half facts and media related information, it is easy to fall into mob mentality. I am guilty of this and am the first to berate myself for doing so. Are we fictionalising events and personalities here? Perhaps we should think on this before posting. It is easy to point the finger and harder to see the truth behind our own moral mirrors. Hang in there Minni! Xx

thanks blacklodge....I have been through about 30 or 40 tissues and seem to be back on track....I appreciate you guys understanding my mini breakdown..I didn't really understand it myself and I still don't feel ready to comment with too much gusto just yet!!!!

thanks x

 

[Liadan]

- when you come to a new country it is up to you to adapt to the cultural aspects in order to integrate. This means you use your senses to cue you in to how you proceed in social situations. Sociopaths lack this system in their personalities.

What I see with the BC's is that they seem to have this aura of entitlement - and social nobility that rules are for the simple people of the world. NOTHING BUT MHO:shakehead:

 

[UnfoldingTruth]

That there is for sure...but if any arrests are made some time soon this resentment will go through the roof. Wondering if police are taking this into consideration at all??...waiting until interest in the case decreases then go in for the arrest??

Then again perhaps the arrests will be some time soon & is part of the reason for the BC's seemingly absence from their home??

I'm hoping and thinking by the reports, that we will see arrest/s not too long after toxicology comes back. But MOO. I could be wrong.

 

[angel1]

I apologise for earlier making light of peoples choices before, that was not cool.
Congratulations Angel, your wedding will no doubt be wonderful, you're right I have seen some silly people ruin special nights before, so way to go xx

You don't need to apologise i was just trying to explain how with weddings everyone is different. Hopefully my wedding will be the best ever lol and thankyou

 

[minni]

There was a link on here vefore to a lovely letter the dickies wrote that I want to show my husband now I cant find it.

Does anyone have it?

I had a look but cant find it just yet, although it was posted either early in this thread or late in thread 13..It was lovely and I will keep looking, but maybe in the morning and someone will no doubt beat me to it!