GUILTY Australia - Dean Shillingsworth, 2, found in suitcase, Ambarvale, NSW, 11 Oct 2007

  • #101
so glad they caught her.so sad he had to live and die with her.
hopefully it will fix your system, i don't hold out much hope for the u.s. though.
will they inform of her excuses? please keep us updated on this and her trial.
 
  • #102
I will post updates Al......they are now interviewing a 28 year old male aswell:(
 
  • #103
so heart breaking. poor baby never had a chance
 
  • #104
Two people are being questioned over the boy in the suitcase.

If these people are responsible I hope the get life, never to be released.

They will not be very popular in the prison system, anyone that harms, abuses or kills children find it very hard in jail.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=306763
 
  • #105
Are these the same people with the two older children? Oh my, I just cannot imagine. If so, I wonder if the other kids knew what happened with their little brother? I want to follow this one to the end. Does Australia have the death penalty?
 
  • #106
Are these the same people with the two older children? Oh my, I just cannot imagine. If so, I wonder if the other kids knew what happened with their little brother? I want to follow this one to the end. Does Australia have the death penalty?

No we don't have the death penalty anymore :(

and that makes me furious!

Sami
 
  • #107
Poor baby, just 2 years old. I cannot understand how someone can hurt a baby, listen to them cry and keep hurting them. It is beyond evil. I hope they suffer for what they did to this poor little boy.
 
  • #108
Ours needs a big overhaul and it might have taken this little boys death to bring attention to it....Im sure heads will be rolling here by monday.

As usual they will find some excuse as to why they didn't act.

Last few times it's been

"we're understaffed" and "we found nothing to support the accusations"


Sami
 
  • #109
Hundreds in lakeside vigil for dead toddler


HUNDREDS of people tonight flocked to the Sydney duck pond where a dead toddler was found stuffed inside a suitcase.

Mothers with their children in prams, men walking dogs and others gathered at the pond for an impromptu memorial for the dead two-year-old.
Many left candles and flowers close to the water's edge at Mandurama Reserve, in Ambarvale in Sydney's southwest, as they came to pay their respects.
Police had cordoned off a section of the park with a 20m-long tarpaulin leading to the lake's edge and a large police rescue truck beamed a light onto the water close to where the two-year-old boy's body was found.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22621543-1702,00.html



AND

Pond death fury


Updated: 23:39, Saturday October 20, 2007


Grief-stricken locals have charged a car believed to contain the mother of a two year old Sydney boy who was found dead inside a suitcase in a pond.
Police are questioning a 26 year old woman believed to be the dead boy's mother, and a 29 year old man is also helping police with their inquiries.

http://www2.skynews.com.au/news/article.aspx?id=195868

Sami
 
  • #110
from the first link above

The woman was tonight being taken to various locations believed related to the boy's death, a police officer said.

various locations????

Sami
 
  • #111
ok I got a couple more questions
1. does everyone there have babies in hospital?
2. Can they do like DNA polls not sure how to say t really but can they just have people go in for the test?( I read a book once about a murderer in England and they had all the men in the area go in and give DNA the killer slipped by the first time as he paid someone to do it for him,but they did get him not long after cause the id's didn't match or something and they made him do it ,I'll have to find the book but it was in like 1987 or something)

DNA "polls" "roundups" or whatever name one's LE chooses to give them have been conducted here in USA, too.

Recently, thousands of young white men who had access to white pickup trucks were subjected to a DNA roundup in Louisiana, during the time the LA serial killer was being sought. They were promised their DNA was going to be destroyed if it didn't match (it wasn't) that the process was going to be kept secret (it wasn't) and that they were under no legal obligation to comply with LE's request (that part was true).

Men who refused to comply with the request had their names "leaked" to media, and their reputations trashed, with lots of inuendo going around from LE: "We can't imagine WHY he won't comply with our request! Unless, he's, you know, guilty or something."

Bottom line: at least here in USA our constitutional civil rights FORBID LE from gathering DNA without just cause. So we are entitled to refuse on that basis alone, and we are entitled to refuse without LE making public assumptions that our refusal means we're "guilty."

And if you're ever asked to "participate" in one of these roundups here in the states, I hope you will refuse. Because the DNA of these young men was NOT destroyed, their privacy was NOT ensured, and LE broke every fricking promise in the book. We are losing our civil rights milimeter by milimeter, because we are simply giving them up.....
 
  • #112
I do remember the one you are talking about now Al.....Im a believer of DNAing being done at birth and stored on computers...it would save a lot of hard work for investigators.

Oh theres bound to be some people who wouldnt like our ideas at all Al.

That would be me, dingo!

DNA can unfortunately be used for much more than solving crimes. Insurance companies have been known to refuse coverage to people who are genetically predisposed to developing certain cancers......which was discovered through study of the person's DNA. Who would safeguard the DNA information from insurance companies? And almost every LE in every country of the world has had at least one rouge officer. What safeguards would prevent that rouge officer from framing his wife's new "love interest?"

There are plenty of legal ways for officers to gain DNA from suspects, although it does require that they do some actual investigation to establish probable cause.
 
  • #113
Is it a sad comment on the times that we all knew here how this was going to end? :( :( :(
 
  • #114
Thank god they caught the murders responsible. My prayers for the poor boy that he will suffer no more, and be a little angel in heaven..
 
  • #115
  • #116
That would be me, dingo!

DNA can unfortunately be used for much more than solving crimes. Insurance companies have been known to refuse coverage to people who are genetically predisposed to developing certain cancers......which was discovered through study of the person's DNA. Who would safeguard the DNA information from insurance companies? And almost every LE in every country of the world has had at least one rouge officer. What safeguards would prevent that rouge officer from framing his wife's new "love interest?"

There are plenty of legal ways for officers to gain DNA from suspects, although it does require that they do some actual investigation to establish probable cause.
Youre points are valid kgeaux,but I still see points in favour of dna collecting aswell.
 
  • #117
As usual they will find some excuse as to why they didn't act.

Last few times it's been

"we're understaffed" and "we found nothing to support the accusations"


Sami
lets hope that this little boy may be the straw.
 
  • #118
And if you're ever asked to "participate" in one of these roundups here in the states, I hope you will refuse. Because the DNA of these young men was NOT destroyed, their privacy was NOT ensured, and LE broke every fricking promise in the book. We are losing our civil rights milimeter by milimeter, because we are simply giving them up.....

Sorry , but I am already in the database more then likely and so is my son and his father due to a paternity test. It's a part of the court record.

Back to topic,I hope your country's child protection laws will change and work. reform has never seemed to prevent this over here though. There are always cases that slip through.
 
  • #119
Kudos to LE for so quickly getting to the bottom of this. Boy identified, mother arrested!
 
  • #120
Sorry , but I am already in the database more then likely and so is my son and his father due to a paternity test. It's a part of the court record.

Back to topic,I hope your country's child protection laws will change and work. reform has never seemed to prevent this over here though. There are always cases that slip through.
We have an election comming up next month so maybe we will be "promised" something will be done.
 

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