Found Deceased Australia - Elisa Curry, 43, Aireys Inlet, Melbourne, 30 Sept 2017 #1

[symbah]

Agree.

I find it hard to believe the dog was in the neighbours yard the whole time. But I also don't believe it was wandering the neighbourhood while SES conducted their massive search.

The poor thing must of been very hungry and thirsty, it had been missing for at least over 33hrs. Maybe the dog was scrounging around the neighbourhood for food. But if that were the case, I think it likely someone would of come across it prior to 6pm monday.

 

[Bohemian]

One other thing, I wonder if any member of Elisa’s family can remember if the gate to their property at Aireys was open or closed when they arrived on Sunday morning.

 

[Mel 1303]

There must be a reason the husband and police jumped on this so fast. A marathon running woman missing with her dog would not by it self ring immediate alarm bells for anyone. Shes gone, phones been off since the night before. Facebook account deleted. My ow n opinion- husband looks shell shocked. I wonder what else was in the holiday home when he got there that made him and the police worry so much.

As far as there being problems in the marriage- I am the same age as Elisa, and most of my girlfriends can have a good old whinge about their husbands when they are not there.

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[Mel 1303]

Agree.

I find it hard to believe the dog was in the neighbours yard the whole time. But I also don't believe it was wandering the neighbourhood while SES conducted their massive search.

I wonder if the dog was locked in the neighbours yard? Different to roaming on its own.

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[Bohemian]

The poor thing must of been very hungry and thirsty, it had been missing for at least over 33hrs. Maybe the dog was scrounging around the neighbourhood for food. But if that were the case, I think it likely someone would of come across it prior to 6pm monday.

Also, home = food. Why wasn’t Elisa’s dog waiting at home to be fed on Sunday morning? If he/she was at a neighbouring property he/she must have been out of earshot of Elisa’s partner and children or else wouldn’t he/she have come bounding home, if only to be fed? Most Labradors are highly food-driven.

If Elisa’s dog was known to get out of the yard and roam the neighbourhood, why would he/she have been ‘visibly distressed’? He/she was in familiar territory and could presumably find his/her way home.

Not knowing if Elisa’s dog has been found ‘visibly distressed’ in the neighbourhood in the past, I think it’s possible something has happened to Elisa and her dog that has frightened him/her and caused him/her to hide.

 

[tmar]

Okay, on further inspection of her Instagram, it looks like she probably never had any content to delete, so it's likely not sus at all. She doesn't follow anyone, and only has 25 followers, all of whom seem genuine, and most of whom match up with people who appeared to be people she was friends with in real life/on Facebook.
When you first sign up for Instagram, you link your Facebook account and anyone you're friends with on Facebook who also has Instagram, gets a notification on Instagram that their fb friend, "Elisa Curry" in this case, has joined Instagram, and asks if they want to "follow" them. It's to get you "started" with followers, and you usually end up with an artbitrary handful of followers from your fb friends. This is what it looks like to me.
ETA: She also has no posts on IG, which is not unusual considering she only has 25 followers and doesn't follow anyone in return. And if you look at her followers, lots of them have 0-10 posts themselves. She's obviously not in an IG heavy social set.

Welcome Lulu.
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[Trooper]

That dog knows everything!.... I can tell by the look on it's face in the news paper pic. :hand: I know, I know..

If I was a cynic, I 'd be saying that all the info, ( the source of that info was the husband ), the police acted on, the run, the long distance run of it , the time of it, the direction of it, has now been slowly realised to be a complete furphy, and the entire direction of the search appears to now be centered, right where the damn dog was trying to tell everyone. Right there at the holiday house.

 

[*Verdigris]

Snakes. Spring's here, snakes are active. Those bush tracks cut through prime Brown and Tiger Snake habitat.
- bitten while going for a run
- need to get help urgently
- phone dead, no one around
- venom kicks in and makes you disorientated
- wander into bush, or off cliff accidentally.

Snakes
http://angair.org.au/knowledge-bank?id=418
Photo
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_snake

Phone glitch
I used to turn my phone off overnight during the daylight savings switch. My old phone couldn't deal with it while still on. If you google "daylight savings phone glitch" you'll find plenty of examples.

Situation has improved but habits are embedded. Just a thought. Turn off phone for above reason. Get up and go for run forgetting to turn phone back on.
Snakes.

Being found alive, of course best case scenario; but if she is deceased, I think a scenario such as this would then be welcomed.

Body found, snake bite, phone in pocket, mystery solved.

That would be a blessing for her family, at this point, in this tragedy.
Especially if no foul play.
imo

Hoping it really will end up being so clear-cut in determining what actually happened.

 

[inkpink]

She's a marathon runner and would have kept to tracks. I can't see her bush bashing.

I think if she was bitten by a snake they most likely would have found her by now.

JMO

 

[Trooper]

And now that it is five days, it is not unreasonable to assume that this is now a recovery mission, and not a rescue mission...

Time is now the crucial factor, and I am discounting accident. I just don't think she went over the cliffs by accident, whilst running. Bitten by a snake has possibilities, ... but that does require a belief in her going for a run.. I don't believe that, either, because of the source.

Murder doesn't take long to perform, but that's the easy part, now the results of that action have to be removed, piece by piece, element by element, requiring a cool head, which is the last thing most murderers have at that point. The body has to be taken from the scene , the location of which would point inevitably to the killer.

So a new location has to be used, and the body transported and this takes time. Some form of transportation has to be used, a dead body is heavy.. this takes time. A new location has to be thought up, and this takes a surprising amount of precious time. Alterations to the new burial site have to be done, a ditch dug, a tree lopped, a path battened up to look impassable.. all the time leaving a trail of evidence that has to be kept track of and gone over backwards to clean up.... and getting back to the location where the story of the realisation of the missing person occurred. .. one cant ring the police from the hiding place..
So then, back to cleaning up the murder site, and oneself as well. suspiciously ripped clothing, overturned furniture, and then the job of cleaning up the victims electronic history, getting a story ready for the relatives, the nosy neighbors.....

then .. a deep breath. another deep breath, and ring the police...'hellooooo?? ... I think my wife is missing... I don't understand it ! "

 

[Acidtear]

ok found the pinterest..there is NOTHING on there no boards, pins, following, followers no nothing..was there something on there before?

No sorry. As I said there was nothing exciting. Just 5 followers.

I checked for a strava account too. Either she doesn't have one (which is weird for a marathon runner) or it's been taken down. [emoji848]


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[BoysTown]

She's a marathon runner and would have kept to tracks. I can't see her bush bashing.

I think if she was bitten by a snake they most likely would have found her by now.

JMO

Agree. She was also familiar with the area, had ran those tracks for 3 years.

If they were having a 'one off' holiday down there and she went missing I would be more likely to believe she fell.

But just my opinion too...

 

[*Verdigris]

She's a marathon runner and would have kept to tracks. I can't see her bush bashing.

I think if she was bitten by a snake they most likely would have found her by now.

JMO

I agree, and I don't think that's what happened at all...
I was just indicating that such a simple (tragic, but simple) and definitive scenario would be so much better than what things are looking like at this point...
Ya know?

and, Hi ink! :wave:

 

[PrimeSuspect]

WHAT WE KNOW
• Elisa Curry was last seen on Saturday night at 10pm in Aireys Inlet
• Her husband and children were in Melbourne at the Grand Final
• She sent a text message to the Herald Sun just before the bounce
• Police believe she may have gone for a run on Sunday morning
• Ms Curry may have used bush tracks or ran on beach, police say
• She has not been seen since
• Her husband issued an emotional plea for her to return home

I think it's safe to say Elisa Curry didn't take her own life, she wouldn't be concerned about texting the paper to air her opinion before committing suicide, so that leaves the husband, a neighbour/friend, a stranger/acquaintance or an accident.

I noticed in one of the articles it's reported that the Curry's stay at this residence most weekends, more like a second home than a holiday cottage frequented a few times a year, they bought this property about a year to 18 mths ago. Plenty of time to establish strong ties with neighbours and the community.

Someone is lying, but who? Police will be gathering witness statements, checking alibis and cctv etc.
This does have an air of it being personal or maybe it's just my gut feeling, this places the husband squarely in the frame but could also suggest a spurned ardent admirer living nearby?


http://www.news.com.au/national/vic...t/news-story/a05127b2d81f8eb205f88c9856f40bdc

 

[ozazure]

Her husband's alibi is going to be tight in my opinion. Grand final stuff would have kept him occupied well into the evening. Chances are way higher than normal to be spending the night with others. Myki, citilink and phone pings probably supporting it all. It would be very different if he was the last person to see her before heading off to the grand final but she was in the company of others well after that time. So he arrives Sunday morning, at best this gives him 14 hours, between 10pm and 12noon. I'd be hard pressed to imagine 3 trips from Melbourne to AI to Melbourne to AI, with some murder chucked in, and manage the issue of the children. It's ludicrous.

The reporting in this has been all over the shop, so unless she is found quickly unharmed, it is going to be one of those cases where the early inaccuracies cause confusion going forward. Where did the night time run idea come from? Obviously not police. But the media have reported it as a given. Was it in any of the videos, the neighbour perhaps? Or maybe a volunteer speaking to a reporter - assuming she may have gone for a run and to go look for her is entirely reasonable, they don't need any proof that she did that to do that very sensible thing.

 

[inkpink]

I agree, and I don't think that's what happened at all...
I was just indicating that such a simple (tragic, but simple) and definitive scenario would be so much better than what things are looking like at this point...
Ya know?

and, Hi ink! :wave:

Ah yes. If it was a snake bite then it means there isn't 1 extra murderer in the world.....

Although in saying that, I haven't ruled out suicide.

And a good morning to you Verdi! :loveyou:

 

[Trooper]

WHAT WE KNOW
• Elisa Curry was last seen on Saturday night at 10pm in Aireys Inlet
• Her husband and children were in Melbourne at the Grand Final
• She sent a text message to the Herald Sun just before the bounce
• Police believe she may have gone for a run on Sunday morning
• Ms Curry may have used bush tracks or ran on beach, police say
• She has not been seen since
• Her husband issued an emotional plea for her to return home

I think it's safe to say Elisa Curry didn't take her own life, she wouldn't be concerned about texting the paper to air her opinion before committing suicide, so that leaves the husband, a neighbour/friend, a stranger/acquaintance or an accident.

I noticed in one of the articles it's reported that the Curry's stay at this residence most weekends, more like a second home than a holiday cottage frequented a few times a year, they bought this property about a year to 18 mths ago. Plenty of time to establish strong ties with neighbours and the community.

Someone is lying, but who? Police will be gathering witness statements, checking alibis and cctv etc.
This does have an air of it being personal or maybe it's just my gut feeling, this places the husband squarely in the frame but could also suggest a spurned ardent admirer living nearby?


http://www.news.com.au/national/vic...t/news-story/a05127b2d81f8eb205f88c9856f40bdc

Something very personal and as far removed from random as it gets, I reckon, Prime.

I don't believe the police think it is a case of a missing running wife, either. They pushed him into making that terrible public appearance, having geed him up a bit, and that was comparatively, early in the event. That performance was for the judge and jury later on down the track, and the police seemed very satisfied with it. Their operational method seems to be to apply the heavy pressure, because it's pretty plain Mr Curry has powerful connections, and to leave no stone unturned in leaving a gap a slick Queens Counsel could drive a truck thru..

Something made Vic Police throw every component , boats, dogs, horses, men , women, helicopters, fix wing, SES, Army, god knows who and what, to eliminate the possibilities thrown at them, ........

 

[Bohemian]

Missing Vic mum's remote survival chances
7 News/AAP
an hour ago (as at 10:15 AEST 5 October 2017)

‘Missing Melbourne mum Elisa Curry only has a "very remote" chance of being alive in the bush along Victoria's Great Ocean Road, police say.’

‘"Unfortunately the best medical advice is that if she is in the bush, that the chances of her being alive are very remote," Inspector Peter Seel told Seven Network on Thursday.

Police have searched the bush tracks Ms Curry was known to run along, as well as investigating any potential suspicious circumstances.

Distraught husband David Curry has pleaded with Ms Curry to come home.

"As you'd expect he's very upset. He's really concerned about his children's welfare and of course his wife's, but he's trying to hold up as best he can for the children," Insp Seel said.

Ms Curry sent a text message to the Herald Sun on Saturday afternoon, supporting John Howard's view that the details of proposed same-sex marriage legislation should be known, but Insp Seel said it was not relevant to the case.’

"No, completely unrelated, that text message was sent about 2.40pm on the Saturday afternoon, so no relation at all," he said.

A local woman, who did not want to be named, said Aireys Inlet is a tight knit community and the situation has left residents unsettled.

"Everyone knows everyone and if they keep to themselves, you recognise them," she told AAP.

"It's spooky."

Police have narrowed their search to an area of about 150 metres around Ms Curry's home, and they are doorknocking the area and searching backyards and sheds.‘

Read more at:

https://au.news.yahoo.com/vic/a/37353359/missing-vic-mums-survival-chances-remote/

 

[ozazure]

WHAT WE KNOW
• Elisa Curry was last seen on Saturday night at 10pm in Aireys Inlet
• Her husband and children were in Melbourne at the Grand Final
• She sent a text message to the Herald Sun just before the bounce
• Police believe she may have gone for a run on Sunday morning
• Ms Curry may have used bush tracks or ran on beach, police say
• She has not been seen since
• Her husband issued an emotional plea for her to return home

I think it's safe to say Elisa Curry didn't take her own life, she wouldn't be concerned about texting the paper to air her opinion before committing suicide, so that leaves the husband, a neighbour/friend, a stranger/acquaintance or an accident.

I noticed in one of the articles it's reported that the Curry's stay at this residence most weekends, more like a second home than a holiday cottage frequented a few times a year, they bought this property about a year to 18 mths ago. Plenty of time to establish strong ties with neighbours and the community.

Someone is lying, but who? Police will be gathering witness statements, checking alibis and cctv etc.
This does have an air of it being personal or maybe it's just my gut feeling, this places the husband squarely in the frame but could also suggest a spurned ardent admirer living nearby?


http://www.news.com.au/national/vic...t/news-story/a05127b2d81f8eb205f88c9856f40bdc

If I had to call it now, spurned ardent admirer is looking feasible.

Is the neighbour who said she was preparing for bed at 10pm the same one reporting the marriage troubles?

 

[Trooper]

And I think he made a fundamental error. He called her in to the police as missing TOO SOON.