Australia - Family of four dead plus pets in murder suicide, Mosman Park, WA, 30 Jan 2026

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One more article then I might give it a rest as it now seems to be fairly clear what occurred and why. 🙁 Second note found at Mosman Park property alleged to detail why parents carried out murder-suicide
So, these kids weren't terminally ill or in terrible pain, but even if they were, this wouldn't be okay.

They were murdered for being autistic.

It isn't too much to expect parents to not murder their children.

No sympathy for their murderers, not one speck. Only the kids, who should be alive and thriving.

MOO
 
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Unpopular opinion here, but I would argue we should stop and think hard at what brought these parents to this point.
Being a carer - and I speak from experience - is one of the hardest things and one often ends up being very lonely in this role, as well as often develop physical and mental health issues that are usually overlooked due to the focus being on caring for someone else.

The Carer wellbeing survey report from 2024 by the University of Canberra offers interest insights on this topic.

Those children did not deserve to be murdered, and I can't even begin to comprehend a parent getting to such a point to see this as the only way out.
However, I don't feel that calling them monsters is fair either.
This is a tragedy beyond my comprehension, that should make us take a hard look at what the system can and should do to support people in their same situation.

RIP to all of them.
 
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It states that a weapon wasn't used.

That's unusual. Wer the wife and children perhaps strangled or suffocated as they slept?
 
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It states that a weapon wasn't used.

That's unusual. Wer the wife and children perhaps strangled or suffocated as they slept?
Actually, from what I can gather, it appears to be a double murder suicide. The articles suggest the wife and husband jointly murdered the children then jointly suicided. IMO. Articles can be accessed just up thread.
 
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Unpopular opinion here, but I would argue we should stop and think hard at what brought these parents to this point.

don't feel that calling them monsters is fair either.

I fully understand what would lead the parents to do this to themselves, their own breaking points.
But it is indeed a monsterous act to murder the kids. They weren't terminally ill and physically in agony with no help from doctors, right?

I am sure the boys valued their lives and didn't want to die. So for the parents to take their lives, because how dare anyone else have the chance to take over after their own suicides and care for their boys and love them.... Nope.

Murdering special needs kids is not something we can start to excuse.
 
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So, these kids weren't terminally ill or in terrible pain, but even if they were, this wouldn't be okay.

I said very similar in my post above and apologize. I didn't mean to take your words. I guess they had impact for me.

But to me, that would be the one reason that wouldn't be angering, the one reason I could see just feeling compassion. But this isn't such a case.

There are indeed too many cases where a parent just can't face forever with a special needs child, or a child with huge medical challenges, and I can personally understand the parent becoming paralyzed to go on. But then they should let someone else care for the child...
 
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It states that a weapon wasn't used.

That's unusual. Wer the wife and children perhaps strangled or suffocated as they slept?
I take that to mean they found no gun or knife. I suppose that leaves overdose, poison, carbon monoxide, smothering, which I'd have thought if used to kill someone would still be classified as a weapon.
It has been reported as a double murder-suicide meaning the children and pets were killed then the parents entered a suicide pact.
 
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I fully understand what would lead the parents to do this to themselves, their own breaking points.
But it is indeed a monsterous act to murder the kids. They weren't terminally ill and physically in agony with no help from doctors, right?

I am sure the boys valued their lives and didn't want to die. So for the parents to take their lives, because how dare anyone else have the chance to take over after their own suicides and care for their boys and love them.... Nope.

Murdering special needs kids is not something we can start to excuse.
I have not in any way excused what they did to the kids.
Just offering another perspective.
They did something extreme and extremely wrong, when they were probably in an extreme state of mind.
This is not a case of "let's get rid of the kids because they're a burden and go live our lives". This is so unbearably sad.
They could have been helped and the saddest part is that the help would have maybe kept their children alive.

I wish the outrage we all feel in this case served the purpose of looking at how we can prevent anything like this happening again.
 
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Actually, from what I can gather, it appears to be a double murder suicide. The articles suggest the wife and husband jointly murdered the children then jointly suicided. IMO. Articles can be accessed just up thread.
I read in one of those articles no weapon was found.
 
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I have not in any way excused what they did to the kids.
Just offering another perspective.
They did something extreme and extremely wrong, when they were probably in an extreme state of mind.
This is not a case of "let's get rid of the kids because they're a burden and go live our lives". This is so unbearably sad.
They could have been helped and the saddest part is that the help would have maybe kept their children alive.

I wish the outrage we all feel in this case served the purpose of looking at how we can prevent anything like this happening again.
I agree. This isn’t to take away from the fact that what happened was horrific. Most people I know who have a child with additional needs are constantly fighting for support and help. My mother was the same, and unfortunately she’s paid for the toll it’s taken on her mental health. JMO.
 
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I read in one of those articles no weapon was found.
Yes, that's right I believe. The police suggested the murders were carried out without the use of a weapon. They characterised them as as 'non violent' and my guess is that all they mean by that is that the children were not attacked with an object or beaten or strangled, forcibly drowned ( all egs). jmo. I don't want to speculate on the method any further though ATM.

IN my post I was pointing out that double murder/suicide is reported not triple murder/suicide . You suggested that the wife was also murdered, but that doesn't seem to be case. Therefore imo she suicided also, after the murder of the children. Jmo
 
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As this appears to be a case of the parents killing their teenage children, and then commit suicide, it's eerily similar to a case that happened in Sweden in 2018. In that case the parents, in consensus, agreed to killing their daughters, 11 and 14 years old, and then themselves. Both girls had been suffering from myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS) for several years, and the parents couldn't see any other solution, even as they got all the help the school, the healthcare, and social security system could offer. I don't know how it's in Australia, but in Sweden I would say that there would't have been that much of a financial burden for a family with chronically ill children, as most, if not all, the aid they recieved was free of cost for the family.
 
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