GUILTY Australia - Jill Meagher, 29, Melbourne, 22 Sep 2012 #1

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Doesn't look like a good place to walk through at 2am

The dark alley and cobble stones would be difficult to walk on when wearing heels... as, IIRC, Jill was wearing!

 

[Walk A Mile]

Regarding reports saying the phone is switched off vs the battery has run down, I think the former is a neutral statement while the latter is an assumption. A phone will switch off if someone shuts it off or if the battery runs out (or is removed). All flat phones are switched off, but all switched off phones aren't flat.

 

[aust amateur slueth]

No, I was raised to help and make sure everyone got home safely. However, in this day and age of so called 'rights' one can find themselves in some awful trouble if one forces oneself on another person (even if it's just to help out). There are plenty stories of people who have tried to help only to find themselves at the end of stalking charges or worse.

I'm a female and I had a situation a few years ago where I was driving a very good male friend home early hours of the morning. He was as drunk as a skunk and suddenly he wanted to get out and walk the rest of the way and I said nope, I'm driving you all the way home.

In his drunken state he told me that what I'm doing is classed as kidnapping because I'm forcing him to stay in my ute against his will and that if I didn't stop he would jump out. To make matters worse, he was opening the door as he was saying this getting ready to jump out as I was driving. I had no choice but to stop and let him go. It put me in a really bad situation, though he did apologise later.

We don't know exactly what was said between them, Jill may have just taken off and left him standing there not knowing exactly where she went to.

I would think that he would be feeling awful at this stage and laying 'blame' on him just because he didn't force her to accept his help I'm not sure is of any benefit. In all honesty, my sympathies go along with him and how he must be feeling about this.

I'm a female too. I wouldn't think a work colleague offering to escort me home after drinks was stalking, even if I declined, thats way OTT.

Forcing someone to stay in a vehicle is totally different to walking them home.

I haven't seen where anyone has laid blame on him, but as possibly the last person to see her its not unreasonable to be concerned is it?

 

[nursebeeme]

attention: the discussion about how she was dressed (other than what she was last seen wearing) ends now.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

New report says she may have stayed in the bar after her colleague left.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/vic...-other-incidents-reported-20120924-26hir.html

And here where the I'm worried words seem to be put into some context.

www.skynews.com.au/topstories/article.aspx?id=798384&vId=3548529


:moo:

 

[nursebeeme]

New report says she may have stayed in the bar after her colleague left.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/vic...-other-incidents-reported-20120924-26hir.html

a snip:

But she then made a brief phone call to her brother Michael at the family's Perth home about 2am and police now say she may have stayed in the bar to make the call.
Homicide squad head Detective Inspector John Potter told ABC radio: ''We are inclined to think what they were discussing was the health of the dad and the noise in the background was in fact the bar there, which leads us to believe that she stayed on in the bar longer than the last of her colleagues, [who] had left, we understand, at about 1.30.''


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/f...ts-reported-20120924-26hir.html#ixzz27OKftk7O

hopefully the bar tender or other witness can back up that info (if it is coming from LE I am sure it has :moo

 

[Berry]

I wonder if he waited because he was under the common misconception that you have to wait a certain period of time before making a missing person's report.

On the other issue of going out without her husband, going out for Friday night drinks with work colleagues without your spouse is very very common here, particularly for 25-35 years olds. I do it all the time and no one would ever bring their spouse.

That part of Brunswick has a lot of factories and warehouses. I hope they are being searched thoroughly. I'm sure there'd be a few vacant ones.

The last paragraph of this post of yours is what I am posting to owls.

My husband is from Melbourne, looked at the map, watched the husbands' interview and said, "tell the coppers to search the dump at Tullamarine".

"The person who did it dumped her in an industrial bin somewhere he knew would be emptied next day, and works for Cleanaway"

Men.... go figure...

 

[theowlsgo]

Apologies in advance for a little bit of speculation- Just something I noticed in the footage of the bag, it appears to be a tote sort of style (like with an open top) and it seems to be sitting upright. If someone had flung it in a hurry, I doubt it would have landed that way and without the content being littered all over the ground. MOO.

You can view the helicopter footage in this article http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/8537761/missing-woman-was-worried

 

[Blue Bottle]

New report says she may have stayed in the bar after her colleague left.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/vic...-other-incidents-reported-20120924-26hir.html

And here where the I'm worried words seem to be put into some context.

www.skynews.com.au/topstories/article.aspx?id=798384&vId=3548529

Hmmm... That sure does sound as if though she was offered escort home and declined she didn't leave at that stage and stayed at the bar.

So really, it needs to be established at what time she left and if she left alone. But reading those other comments about other experiences people have had in that location of late does make the fear that she possibly met with foul play more possible.

Not sounding so good at all.

 

[GutFeeling!]

According to the bar's facebook page they close at 1am. Can't be too hard to ask Mr Wright where they were when he left can it?

I guess it is possible they were outside and the crowd was standing around chatting - IF they do close at 1am last drinks would be 12:45am - then drink up and get out lol

 

[theowlsgo]

"The person who did it dumped her in an industrial bin somewhere he knew would be emptied next day, and works for Cleanaway"

Men.... go figure...

Horrible thought but there probably would be a few bins like that in that 250-300 metre strip between Sydney Rd and Lux.

 

[Blue Bottle]

According to the bar's facebook page they close at 1am. Can't be too hard to ask Mr Wright where they were when he left can it?

I guess it is possible they were outside and the crowd was standing around chatting - IF they do close at 1am last drinks would be 12:45am - then drink up and get out lol

Not necessarily 'get out'... Some pubs may close their doors at a certain time as in not allow anyone else into the pub after the said time, but those already there can still party on for a while or more.

 

[nursebeeme]

The last paragraph of this post of yours is what I am posting to owls.

My husband is from Melbourne, looked at the map, watched the husbands' interview and said, "tell the coppers to search the dump at Tullamarine".

"The person who did it dumped her in an industrial bin somewhere he knew would be emptied next day, and works for Cleanaway"

Men.... go figure...

just jumping off your post to reinforce the warning that was posted upstream in case any have missed it: we are a victim friendly forum and until or unless something changes the husband is a victim as well. Not pointing at your post but it needs reinforced nevertheless.

 

[possumheart]

<modsnip>, she is someone's wife, sister, daughter who went missing in a populated area, and that is not right

 

[Berry]

just jumping off your post to reinforce the warning that was posted upstream in case any have missed it: we are a victim friendly forum and until or unless something changes the husband is a victim as well. Not pointing at your post but it needs reinforced nevertheless.

Thanks Bee, not directed at the interview but needed to just include the short intro of Jills disappearance.

So I gave precie to my hubby about this suburb to get his opinion only, as he is a perceptive and rapid processor of "situations", not related to Tom Meagher at all.

Tom does not work in that field of dump trucks business. But someone who did it does hubby says.

My Hubby was born and raised in Melbourne and a Taxi driver there for too long he says.

 

[hollye]

Here's a map of the locations of note...

https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msi...l=-37.767331,144.960544&spn=0.006327,0.009624

 

[aussie_girl88]

Been busy watching the brownlow medal, go jobe!!! Wow, this has kicked off gotta catch up on the last few pages!

 

[nursebeeme]

No CCTV footage was available from Bar Etiquette, making it harder for police to piece together her night.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/tr...tes-in-brunswick/story-fnat7jnn-1226479708333

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Just giving you time to settle in before we start criticising!

:floorlaugh:

 

[nursebeeme]

Thanks Bee, not directed at the interview but needed to just include the short intro of Jills disappearance.

So I gave precie to my hubby about this suburb to get his opinion only, as he is a perceptive and rapid processor of "situations", not related to Tom Meagher at all.

Tom does not work in that field of dump trucks business. But someone who did it does hubby says.

My Hubby was born and raised in Melbourne and a Taxi driver there for too long he says.

so let me get this straight: your husband is telling you to post that he thinks the perp is in the dump truck business?