Found Deceased Australia - Karen Ristevski, 47, Melbourne, Vic, 29 June 2016 - #14

[sosocurious]

Could yesterday's fiasco been staged to discredit all LE's hard work?

This could swing a jury's decision. All evidence now appears to be weak.



I believe it was Borce's lawyers who called the journos to be witness to the call and the mechanic changing his memory.
Borce might have been sitting in his car watching from across the road!
IMO that mechanic wasn't the most confident type personality.

For Borce to call when those journos were there was an unbelievable coincidence. I don't believe in coincidences, not like that.



Has that mechanic been threatened with legal mumbo-jumbo he couldn't understand?
The poor innocent bugger doesn't know what he's in for.

No I don't believe in coincidence like that either TGY.
Nor do I believe that it was coincidence ACA just lucked on to Vasko walking out from behind a tree ........ up at the site.

jmo

 

[UndiscoveredTruth]

Sorry guys, gotta shoot out for abit! I'm not ignoring you..I'll respond when I get in!

 

[PrimeSuspect]

No I don't believe in coincidence like that either TGY.
Nor do I believe that it was coincidence ACA just lucked on to Vasko walking out from behind a tree ........ up at the site.

jmo

Good point, soso! These brothers are toying with the police and the public, may as well include the sons too!

Sorry guys, gotta shoot out for abit! I'm not ignoring you..I'll respond when I get in!

No worries UT

 

[Trooper]

That stupid mechanic.. looks like the fix is in......

 

[sleepinoz]

I can't believe how much influence ol' Borce has over people. Call it whatever you like, but this mechanic has ultimatly changed his sworn statement to Police. Must be a huge influence IMO

 

[JLZ]

No, I think the mechanic just forgot. But I also think that BR counted on his inquiry being remembered and took advantage of it when he made up the story about the fuel gauge fault.

 

[they'll get you]

We don't know that for sure UT. Karen was only missing less than 2 wks, and Borce is worried he'll be blamed for her death, but no one knew she was dead, there was no body!
If you look at all the disappearances of family members, no one comes to that conclusion that quickly. If Borce has nothing to hide, why not tell the police what he did for those 100 minutes?

Right! For all he knew Karen was whooping it up in China on a fake passport.
Surely if that was the case you certainly wouldn't need a lawyer.

 

[they'll get you]

I am not getting why a broken fuel gauge some 2 or 3 years previous really even matters. Borce said it fixed itself when he did a u turn up the Calder and returned home by noon.

Maybe he phoned the mechanic on another occasion which is more significant.....:dunno:
imo

Yes soso, the real fact that matters is that he travelled up past the Calder.

 

[sosocurious]

We're bound to find out sooner or later if he's called others lol! But hey, if someone accuses me of something and I know for a fact it's not true, I will get hold of them and set the record straight. I think most people would, wouldn't they? Even moreso if in BR's position. According to him he's not guilty, he did not kill his wife, so if he feels/knows information is being reported that is not true/correct, it is his right to set the record straight, if he chooses to do so...I think anyway!! MOO

I wish he would give us the facts as to why he had his phone turned off for 2 hours.
What time he and or Karen were intending to be at the store. What time did that staff member call?
imo

 

[UndiscoveredTruth]

Wasn't it after his Friday 8 July interview that he clammed up and possibly saw his lawyer?

Detectives from the missing persons squad have confirmed they questioned Mr Ristevski about his wife's disappearance last Friday. He has since been released pending further inquiries.
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/k...s-mother-karen-ristevski-20160711-gq3fw0.html

Mr Stary said he had been advising Mr Ristevski since soon after the disappearance.
"We've been advising him since day one really," he said.
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/b...s-murder-his-lawyer-says-20170222-guihl1.html

Sarah, now 22, was present at the family home earlier in the morning before leaving, police have been told.
The Herald Sun understands police believe they were close to making a key breakthrough in the case during the interview with Mr Ristevski.
The interview, which took place not long after 47-year-old Mrs Ristevski was reported missing, came to an abrupt end when he refused to answer any more questions.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/la...d/news-story/ee48a668502bb1000bcaf7762e984e42
Borce Ristevski can’t explain movements for almost 100 minutes on day Karen vanished

If I recall correctly, BR stopped co-operating with police approximately a month after KR's disappearance--so the end of July early August he would have lawyered up, I think! I might be wrong! I'll have to go do some research :gaah:

We don't know that for sure UT. Karen was only missing less than 2 wks, and Borce is worried he'll be blamed for her death, but no one knew she was dead, there was no body!
If you look at all the disappearances of family members, no one comes to that conclusion that quickly. If Borce has nothing to hide, why not tell the police what he did for those 100 minutes?

I think it was longer than 2 weeks, Prime. I'm thinking a month. IF KR had been missing for a month, that's along time. No contact for a month and you've people voicing their suspicions that he has something to do with her disappearance and may have murdered her, well.... time to lawyer up alright! MOO

 

[sosocurious]

So is this all correct?
Detectives visited the mechanic last Friday (8th) although he did not want to get too involved he answered a couple of questions the police asked about the car.
A few weeks earlier Borce had popped in with the volkswagon for an engine top up and bulb change.
During their chat Borce let the mechanic know the police still had the merc the one that has been all over the news .......... but they did not discuss that dreaded broken fuel gauge that Borce had asked him about years before........hmmm
Told him about his new occupation and off he trotted .....

Surely the merc had been serviced in the last 2 or 3 years......seems...... Mr Yusuf relies on his memory...(or Borces)
Where as the auto electrician had no record of service.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/la...m/news-story/ffeb22a07c6bef7e52364081bb83c71f
imo

 

[UndiscoveredTruth]

I wish he would give us the facts as to why he had his phone turned off for 2 hours.
What time he and or Karen were intending to be at the store. What time did that staff member call?
imo

I wish we had the answers to those questions too, soso. We will find out eventually though! Well at least, I hope we do!

 

[sosocurious]

If I recall correctly, BR stopped co-operating with police approximately a month after KR's disappearance--so the end of July early August he would have lawyered up, I think! I might be wrong! I'll have to go do some research :gaah:


I think it was longer than 2 weeks, Prime. I'm thinking a month. IF KR had been missing for a month, that's along time. No contact for a month and you've people voicing their suspicions that he has something to do with her disappearance and may have murdered her, well.... time to lawyer up alright! MOO

DETECTIVES investigating the disappearance of Melbourne woman Karen Ristevski have been met with a “sudden wall of silence” from a crucial person of interest in the case..........
One person of interest in the case has suddenly stopped talking to police...........

It is understood the couple’s daughter, Sarah, 21, has ceased to help police, in support of her father, who she believes has been treated unfairly.


That police interview came two weeks after Mr Rickard’s father, Borce, was interviewed over his wife’s disappearance, in what is standard police practice.
Questioned on July 8, he denied any involvement in his wife’s disappearance.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/na...e/news-story/5ba4fb8e6d266bfbb279f81d2eda1318
Missing mum Karen Ristevski police probe steps up amid ‘silence’

JULY 4
Sarah Ristevski, the missing woman’s daughter, made an emotional appeal for information.

JULY 8
Borce Ristevski is questioned by police investigating his wife’s disappearance.

JULY 14
During a press conference a television reporter asks Mr Ristevski if he killed his wife. Mr Ristevski did not respond and the press conference was cut short.

JULY 22
Anthony Rickard, Mrs Ristevski’s stepson, is questioned by police. He tells police her relationship with her husband was turbulent.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...i/news-story/48a06f47a6520f62d835f8570347178a

 

[SouthAussie]

If I recall correctly, BR stopped co-operating with police approximately a month after KR's disappearance--so the end of July early August he would have lawyered up, I think! I might be wrong! I'll have to go do some research :gaah:


I think it was longer than 2 weeks, Prime. I'm thinking a month. IF KR had been missing for a month, that's along time. No contact for a month and you've people voicing their suspicions that he has something to do with her disappearance and may have murdered her, well.... time to lawyer up alright! MOO

Yes, it was about a month until we heard about it, so it likely happened a bit sooner than that. Somewhere after his police interview and prior to the staging of the mannequin representing Karen, the information van, the leaflets, the fliers.

While it may be okay to speak with a lawyer, I cannot understand why he 'stopped cooperating'. Surely a person would just take their lawyer along with them, and continue to answer police questions. Assist them.
But I guess we all know why he's not assisting.



One month on and a mannequin wearing a brown wig, a handbag and Karen Ristevski's clothes forms part of an increasingly desperate police search for the missing mother.
Detective Inspector Dennis declined to confirm reports that a person of interest had stopped co-operating with police.
He would not say if that person was Ms Ristevski's husband Borce.
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/p...karen-ristevski-drags-on-20160727-gqet08.html

 

[moreinfo]

Re faulty gauge- another source of clarity could come from Karen's brother. Why are we not hearing anything from him?
Remembering Karen's brother was close to BR and family, used to visit fortnightly, even after her disappearance.
Surely just surely, Stephen Williams may have known if there was a major fault like this in his sisters car. This is the kind of stuff you could talk about when visiting family. And what was Stephen Williams able to extract from his ongoing visits after Karen went missing. I'm pretty sure it wouldn't have been talk about the weather!. Don't you think Borce would have said something like. "Yeah you know how the Merc had the faulty gauge well I was trying to fix it".
If this was news to Stephen , remembering too he said he was close to his sister, he would have either responded with "my sister never mentioned the gauge was faulty", if indeed there was no fault.

Have Mercedes officially confirmed whether a faulty gauge can be fixed by going over a bump? If this is not so then have police checked if the gauge is still faulty?

 

[Alli1982]

We're bound to find out sooner or later if he's called others lol! But hey, if someone accuses me of something and I know for a fact it's not true, I will get hold of them and set the record straight. I think most people would, wouldn't they? Even moreso if in BR's position. According to him he's not guilty, he did not kill his wife, so if he feels/knows information is being reported that is not true/correct, it is his right to set the record straight, if he chooses to do so...I think anyway!! MOO

If he is to blame for this murder....his rights to set his faulty gage record straight is entirely diminished in my opinion - unless he wants to set ALL records straight regarding facts also about the murder of his wife :crosseyed:

He cannot only apply a moralistic approach on 'facts' being wrongly reported that only serve himself and living his life uncharged and unpunished, compared to the most immoral acts of all, if he is indeed responsible.

 

[Alli1982]

I am not getting why a broken fuel gauge some 2 or 3 years previous really even matters. Borce said it fixed itself when he did a u turn up the Calder and returned home by noon.

Maybe he phoned the mechanic on another occasion which is more significant.....:dunno:
imo

funny how it hadn't corrected itself over the previous 2-3 year period.......it only hit the right bump on the same day he used his murdered wife's car......he really should have let mechanic 'forget' that he had noted a 'fault' - give us a spell borce - SERIOUSLY.

 

[Alli1982]

Yep, she was only missing at the time and it wasn't till after the reporter asked BR if he killed KR, BR lawyered up! I can understand that, I don't know why others can't. BR knew then, what people were going to say/think regardless of what he had to say.... he was guilty, period!!

Focus all turned on Tom Meagher too when Jill was horrifically murdered, difference is when you're NOT guilty, there is no need to lawyer up as there will be no evidence, and time will prove the same no matter what people think/say!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Alli1982]

:clap:

While the mechanic is on camera, what are the odds? Borce is playing with people, he is much cleverer than anyone gives him credit. This guy is all about image; he's not deep in debt, he's a great businessman, he's just working to get out of the house, he didn't kill his wife....... there's a pattern.

He can make calls about the faulty fuel gauge but won't speak to the police, can't remember what happened for 100 minutes on the day Karen disappeared, won't clear his wife's name about rumours dirtying her image, won't speak about his son's claims...... there's a pattern.

JMO

 

[moreinfo]

Also another point, if there was a faulty fuel gauge , as if Karen would not want to get it fixed. Would she risk being left stranded in the middle of nowhere because of incorrect fuel readings . I'm sure Karen dud lots of solo driving. From what I can tell, she attended lots of events on her own without BR, be it to girly nights out, looks like she had very close friends in swan hill or around there, in sure there would have been driving done there . Really would she not have fixed a faulty fuel gauge if she was doing this type of driving.
Wouldn't her loving husband have got it sorted for her own safety.