Found Deceased Australia - Karen Ristevski, 47, Melbourne, Vic, 29 June 2016 - #2

[SouthAussie]

That is why bankruptcy was invented. So people could stop suiciding over financial downfall and things could be wrapped up in the fairest way possible ... for everyone.

 

[Puggle]

Can anyone tell me if the water police were using side sonar equipment on the first search of the river ..... think it was around the 14th.

I've looked through google images of media articles but can only see the singular police water boat going back and fourth...
no dredging or divers or any side attachment equipment .......

Can someone please correct me if I'm wrong ......

 

[Bohemian]

An Indian woman went missing from her unit at Westmead, searchers and police could not find her for several days. (Of course we all suspected her brother). Behind the large unit complex there was a small creek which was usually dry but was swollen due to recent rain. When the creek subsided the woman was found hanging by her large scarf from a branch.

The police concluded it was suicide.

Simple. It happens.

It could be possible life's problems overwhelmed Karen and she took a rope in her handbag, turned off her phone and found a tree branch and bid the world goodnight.

Sad but possible considering the heated argument, debts, the SS and her considering 'leaving'.

If this is the case she could be hard to see being dressed in black.

Just some thoughts here.

Sadly, I don't think suicide can be ruled out. I have been doing a bit of reading and from what I can gather about the same amount of missing persons (who aren't found within a month) have either met with foul play, or have committed suicide (approximately 15% each). The vast majority of missing persons lare 'runaways' (approximately 70%) in this oft referenced study:

Foy S 2006. A Profile of Missing Persons in New South Wales. Unpublished PhD thesis, Charles Sturt University

https://www.missingpersons.gov.au/s...Publications/Missing Persons In Australia.pdf

Page 11:

'There were 250 (70%) runaways, 54 (15.1%) persons who attempted or completed suicide and 53 (14.8%) persons missing due to foul play.'

 

[they'll get you]

I've suggested she didn't leave that house of her own free will.

I don't believe she suicided either.

Just putting 3 shovels in the corner and telling you to take a pick.

 

[sleepinoz]

Can anyone tell me if the water police were using side sonar equipment on the first search of the river ..... think it was around the 14th.

I've looked through google images of media articles but can only see the singular police water boat going back and fourth...
no dredging or divers or any side attachment equipment .......

Can someone please correct me if I'm wrong ......

Divers were used, not so sure about sonar.

Detective Senior Sergeant Craig Rhodes, who heads the missing persons unit, was on site as two police divers suited up to search the river bed for weapons or other items linked to the 47-year-old's disappearance.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/d...ng-woman-karen-ristevski-20160730-gqh7i1.html

 

[Bohemian]

I've suggested she didn't leave that house of her own free will.

I don't believe she suicided either.

Just putting 3 shovels in the corner and telling you to take a pick.

Everyone can 'take a pick' at this stage. Everything is conjecture until investigators publicly show their hand - in the form of an arrest.

 

[Puggle]

Divers were used, not so sure about sonar.

Detective Senior Sergeant Craig Rhodes, who heads the missing persons unit, was on site as two police divers suited up to search the river bed for weapons or other items linked to the 47-year-old's disappearance.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/d...ng-woman-karen-ristevski-20160730-gqh7i1.html

Thanks Sleep ....... that was the second search following the tip off ..... I was wondering do you know about the first search closer to her house ... did they use sonar then and divers in that search too ?

 

[sleepinoz]

Thanks Sleep ....... that was the second search following the tip off ..... I was wondering do you know about the first search closer to her house ... did they use sonar then and divers in that search too ?

I'm looking for the spec's of the boat used, some come with built in sounders and sometimes sonar. I'm on a journey..............

 

[sleepinoz]

Thanks Sleep ....... that was the second search following the tip off ..... I was wondering do you know about the first search closer to her house ... did they use sonar then and divers in that search too ?

Sorry, as far as I know Divers were only used on the Sat morning - the first search was Friday afternoon.

 

[moreinfo]

It's good though, at least something is now being done. They are saying that this one has been started by family, which IMO should have been done much earlier.

If this 2nd FB page titled "Where is Karen" was started by family which I'm 100% sure its not and have a pretty good idea who has, wouldn't they have included some of their own photos of Karen, rather than just re-use the medias photos. None of the posts have any heart felt messages either, just news reports. No insider information which might assist to help us all find Karen. Someone also asked when was the last time someone apart from her husband saw her. If they were Karen's family or friend, surely they would have a better idea than a websleuther.

 

[sleepinoz]

If this 2nd FB page titled "Where is Karen" was started by family which im 100% sure its not and have a pretty good idea who has, wouldn't they have included some of their own photos of Karen, rather that just re-use the medias photos. None of the posts have any heart felt messages either, just news reports. No insider information to which might assist to help us all find Karen. Someone also asked when was the last time someone apart from her husband saw her. If they were Karens family or friend, surely they would have a better idea than a websleuther.

I'm don't think it's family either from the way they're posting.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

If this 2nd FB page titled "Where is Karen" was started by family which im 100% sure its not and have a pretty good idea who has, wouldn't they have included some of their own photos of Karen, rather that just re-use the medias photos. None of the posts have any heart felt messages either, just news reports. No insider information which might assist to help us all find Karen. Someone also asked when was the last time someone apart from her husband saw her. If they were Karens family or friend, surely they would have a better idea than a websleuther.

Quite right, I thought the same thing, they must be lying, or else they only knew her in passing or something, but personally I think they're lying to give their page credibility.

 

[wewillgetyou]

There's a few good boat photos in this article that might help you.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/la...i/news-story/4d1204ab2c7ec8b71d18597b8da513c0

 

[sleepinoz]

From what I know from having a husband that was a boat fanatic {{sigh}} the round thing on the top of the boat in this pic is Sonar - in the cab of the boat there would be a screen that they could watch for any abnormal sightings.

I also can't imagine a Police Boat not being fitted with Sonar and Sounder etc etc.

 

[sleepinoz]

There's a few good boat photos in this article that might help you.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/la...i/news-story/4d1204ab2c7ec8b71d18597b8da513c0

You can also see the equipment in the pics in this article- thanks wwgy - the boat from what I can tell is a Bass Straight Offshore 24 - year unknown. It doesn't come fitted, but I imagine it would be automatic/mandatory for Police Boat Patrols to install.

 

[Amee]

From what I know from having a husband that was a boat fanatic {{sigh}} the round thing on the top of the boat in this pic is Sonar - in the cab of the boat there would be a screen that they could watch for any abnormal sightings.

I also can't imagine a Police Boat not being fitted with Sonar and Sounder etc etc.

I agree and the middle photo in WWGY's link shows what your clever husband was saying .

 

[sleepinoz]

I agree and the middle photo in WWGY's link shows what your clever husband was saying .

lol - not too sure about clever :thinking:

 

[Amee]

lol - not too sure about clever :thinking:

:blushing: :laughing:

 

[Puggle]

Thank you so much Sleep for all that ...n..wewillgetyou too lol...

I maybe wrong but I think I am looking for a specialized bit of sonar equipment ... side scan sonar ... which gives a far wider (width and Depth) reading...

I remember on the Sierra Lamar case .... even after LE boat searches, which would have included normal depth sonar equipment..... there was a delay in searching because they were awaiting this special equipment (The side scan sonar) to search closer to the lakes edges......

I don't think our police have used this equipment...

ETA: yep hubby is right about the sonar .... just which type.

 

[Puggle]

lol - not too sure about clever :thinking:

ohhh sleep I'm sure he is plenty clever ..... thank him from me.