Found Deceased Australia - Karen Ristevski, 47, Melbourne, Vic, 29 June 2016 - #2

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  • #641
Police encouraged Karens and Borces friends and family to come forward for police to paint better picture of their 25 years of marriage and their child SR and his son AR. I believe that there is a lot dirty laundry to come out. There must be some exfriends for these past 25 years especially since Borces son start living with them. And when their relationship with him broke down? I believe all their friends(modsnip)distanced themselves. Or on the other hand they sided with Karen.
Also their employees maybe know about their marriage and problems with shop finance. I wish they all contact police.
 
  • #642
Is it possible to do a 'what do you think happened to Karen ' ' poll within this thread? I'm thinking we would have:
Murdered by Husband
Murdered by AR
Murdered by happenence
Alive and well in hiding

Anything else.....?
 
  • #643
Is it possible to do a 'what do you think happened to Karen ' ' poll within this thread? I'm thinking we would have:
Murdered by Husband
Murdered by AR
Murdered by happenence
Alive and well in hiding

Anything else.....?

Suicide?
Accidental death, fallen in river?
 
  • #644
Shivers! I thought I included suicide.....

Good suggestions.
 
  • #645
Is it possible to do a 'what do you think happened to Karen ' ' poll within this thread? I'm thinking we would have:
Murdered by Husband
Murdered by AR
Murdered by happenence
Alive and well in hiding

Anything else.....?

Ask a mod. I've seen other threads on WS with polls attached so it may be able to be done.

Can I suggest 'Murder by persons unknown' to add to your list?
 
  • #646
That area is actually very well serviced by PT, as Buckley St and Millieara Rd are main routes, many buses cross that intersection ... if she had an unregistered myki she could travel unidentified, the short 1km walk to Buckley St would have her on a bus going straight to Essendon Station and from there she is 20 mins away from any vline train she wanted to hop on. If she had been planning to run off, stashing some cash, then heading somewhere on a bus or train would be pretty straightforward. Be interesting to know if CCTV at PT hubs was checked for that day. Rent a room in a large rural town for 100-150 a week or even less, $2k could get you a few months wiggle room to set yourself up a bit. I must admit I do find this hard to picture from what we've gleamed of their chosen (incongruent to income even) lifestyle. Perhaps more likely cloistered away by a lover than living hand to mouth.

The relationship between Sarah and her mother would certainly shed some light and we have read the interstate cousin says they are close. I have reason to believe they are the one and same who made the somewhat negative "million dollar question" comment on FB so I am guessing they are at least somewhat hostile to Borce and so perhaps less open to the idea Karen is involved in her own disappearance. I question the accuracy of an interstate cousin's impression of their relationship, people are often wearing their masks even at family events, and enmeshed or conflict laden relationships can still see people calling frequently and spending a lot of time together. Not saying this is their relationship, just that to me the cousin's impressions do not rule out, for me, her leaving her poor daughter in this limbo.

As for her body being found if she had committed suicide, surely Daniel O'Keefe gives us some pause there.

I have mentioned Lorrin earlier in this thread as well Pepper77, I think they have a lot in common. She was experiencing stress also, and had even younger children. For some reason she stopped her mail, and her last purchase of a water bottle always makes me wonder if she went somewhere to take too much medication. Borce tells us Karen went back upstairs, if he is innocent and being honest, this detail is interesting. His narrative is short but he starts her "leaving" with her going upstairs before coming back down and going through the garage. Did she retrieve something from upstairs? Medication, money, myki, hidden prepaid phone .... ? Or just the handbag and purse?
 
  • #647
Seems no one wants to talk about the past.

Eastern Europeans and their descendants can very private people in my experience; especially regarding financial matters.
 
  • #648
Ask a mod. I've seen other threads on WS with polls attached so it may be able to be done.

Can I suggest 'Murder by persons unknown' to add to your list?

Thanks. I'll alert a mod to my post and see how we go.
 
  • #649
At present id still be holding out some hope of a sighting of Karen on CCTV.

Whether that be at a bus stop nearby?

Id be more interested in seeing line of sight CCTV to the house from all angles examined to see it there was events to be viewed suspicious. 28th-29th.

Im still looking at the past financial situation, cannot discount that its connected.

As have been outlined there are discrepancies for which someone would be accountable for ?
 
  • #650
At present id still be holding out some hope of a sighting of Karen on CCTV.

Whether that be at a bus stop nearby?

Id be more interested in seeing line of sight CCTV to the house from all angles examined to see it there was events to be viewed suspicious. 28th-29th.

Im still looking at the past financial situation, cannot discount that its connected.

As have been outlined there are discrepancies for which someone would be accountable for ?

BBM
This is my hope, too.
I think that they will be carefully scanning any CCTV from the time that Karen was last independently heard from until the time she was reported missing. I would imagine that they are looking for any sight of Karen, and any sight of any vehicles/people known to her.
 
  • #651
Im curious......

What do posters actually think police are doing in Karens missing persons case ...apart from the obvious...questioning family and friends.... responding to searching the river at the anglers tavern following a public tip off...

What else could be happening behind the scenes.....

Maybe we could provide some suggestions lol.....

ETA: I may get some backlash ..... but why wasn't a thourough search of Daniel Okeefe's house done, even when it was reported he suffered from depression.......who was it that pushed and pushed Daniel Morcombes case...who insisted on an Enquiry.

Sorry guys...Im jaded...where missing person cases are concerned.......GBC was a total no brainer....the dude had scatches on his face.........

Says 4 hail marys!!!.......
 
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So who sets it up?
 
  • #654
Borce saw Karen at 10 am and she didn't make it to work.

What can happen to a woman in broad daylight in a safe area?

I feel so sorry for Karen. A shop with expensive stock, rent, wages and super etc etc. knowing all this was hanging over her head.


The publication claims a caveat, thought to be brought on by unpaid rent, was lodged in February by a shopping centre owner over the missing woman's Avondale Heights property.

It reports the caveat prevents the property, thought to be worth up to $1.1million, from being transferred or sold.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/32090700/couple-drowning-in-debt-before-wife-s-disappearance-karen-ristevski-melbourne/#page1
 
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Im busy on other things, on the ground.
:jail:
 
  • #657
The 32-year-old told police on Friday: “I remember Karen often saying to me that once Sarah (her daughter) turned 21, she would be out of there, meaning she’d be leaving my dad”.


Sarah turned 21 earlier this year.

But Mr Rickard has claimed to police that Mrs Ristevski spoke numerous times about leaving.


He said his dad and stepmother had been having marriage problems.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/la...s/news-story/34ccaa5a8e32d95fb000c7668f68627d
 
  • #658
The 32-year-old told police on Friday: “I remember Karen often saying to me that once Sarah (her daughter) turned 21, she would be out of there, meaning she’d be leaving my dad”.


Sarah turned 21 earlier this year.

But Mr Rickard has claimed to police that Mrs Ristevski spoke numerous times about leaving.


He said his dad and stepmother had been having marriage problems.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/la...s/news-story/34ccaa5a8e32d95fb000c7668f68627d

Do you have any thoughts on that link?
 
  • #659
Eastern Europeans and their descendants can very private people in my experience; especially regarding financial matters.
Karen is not from Europe she has New Zealand background her maiden name is Williams. He husband is from Macedonia. So going by her husband's side I know that everyone knows everybody else's business there. And most of them are same here or there. But I believe that Karen was more private about family meters and both of them (running business) were very busy and didn't have much time for social life.
 
  • #660
Borce saw Karen at 10 am and she didn't make it to work.

What can happen to a woman in broad daylight in a safe area?

I feel so sorry for Karen. A shop with expensive stock, rent, wages and super etc etc. knowing all this was hanging over her head.


The publication claims a caveat, thought to be brought on by unpaid rent, was lodged in February by a shopping centre owner over the missing woman's Avondale Heights property.

It reports the caveat prevents the property, thought to be worth up to $1.1million, from being transferred or sold.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/32090700/couple-drowning-in-debt-before-wife-s-disappearance-karen-ristevski-melbourne/#page1


Hi - first time poster here.

i just did some research on the property land title. There is a document available that has been lodged titled, 'Withdrawal of caveat'. Without paying a fee, I can't confirm who exactly withdrew a caveat and when, but this appeared to be the only document available with regards to a caveat on the property.

If this is correct, then what has been reported in MSM wouldn't be accurate, up-to-date information. This also means that there wouldn't have been a huge stressor involved for Karen by having had a caveat put on her property.
 
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