Found Deceased Australia - Karen Ristevski, 47, Melbourne, Vic, 29 June 2016 - #3

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  • #421
Okay, putting another theory out there, here goes ..... what if it's a totally staged disappearance and they're all in on it? KR relocates to New Zealand or somewhere, by boat, using old passport or fake one - husband stays around to sort out affairs and when everything dies down relocates to where KR is and they begin again, away from AR ....... debt free (I don't know how but maybe there's a way)?:thinking:
 
  • #422
Yes, the police would know but it's frustrating that we don't. :thinking: It's possible that SR, when talking about her mother going ballistic at BR, was simply stating what she'd been told by her father and wasn't actually there.

I wondered that too, Makara. I also wonder if that's why most, if not all, of her audiovisual comments have been 'pulled' from the web.
 
  • #423
I'm another not buying this friend had a true window into her Karen's life. I know what the snags are in my closest friends' relationships, the mundane difficulties of decades long relationships that are overall going along well, and we discuss wider family dysfunction - it is not prying to ask after a friend's stepson. I routinely ask my friends how so&so in their extended family is going and they do the same. That is how intimate friendships are, you know each other's lives. And even if she kept one aspect close to her chest, if it was too painful to talk about, to just be presenting as if everything is hunky dory seems a bit alarming. If this was the nature of her friendships I feel sad for her even if her relationships with her husband and daughter were great. There are certain things you shouldn't discuss with them that you might need to get off your chest, like details of your marriage with your child, and sometimes you can't truly blow off steam with with your partner on all scores - when you are both involved they might find it a recrimination if you need to express negative feelings or thoughts. What did she do when AR rang? Did she have someone to sit over coffee with for hours to nut it out, with someone who wasn't going to feel as upset and responsible as Borce? When I have a tough time my friends keep me afloat because they know what is troubling me but they are only affected in that they have empathy for me, not directly affected.
 
  • #424
People running their own small businesses are often extremely busy. I don't see evidence that KR and family are especially 'private', secretive or unsocial. And while the business would involve an image and marketing aspect, I'm far from convinced that in relation to their personal lives "maintaining 'the image' is everything". So Karen didn't complain about her husband or their money. Perhaps she was happy, hopeful and resilient.
The thanks button wasn't enough, JLZ. Well said!!!!
 
  • #425
Sarah's comment about mum going ballistic whether she was there or not seems an odd way to talk about your missing mums behavior

Yeah, the relaxed almost shorthand vocabulary about it says to me that mum going ballistic had been experienced in the past. Sounds like a woman under a lot of pressure.
 
  • #426
Yeah, the relaxed almost shorthand vocabulary about it says to me that mum going ballistic had been experienced in the past. Sounds like a woman under a lot of pressure.
I agree about the vocabulary. You could almost hear an unspoken "(again)". However, perhaps Karen was one of those people who enjoy pressure?
 
  • #427
I wondered that too, Makara. I also wonder if that's why most, if not all, of her audiovisual comments have been 'pulled' from the web.

That stuff is wiped, as is all the video of the first media appearance outside the AH police station, except what is in that ACA clip. Someone posted the "ballistic" graphic at one point, I wonder if they saved it?

Initial articles also mentioned her having a health problem which has disappeared from the narrative.
 
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This Ch9 video has a couple of sound bites in it of SR making the 'ballistic' comment and the 'because I'm an only child' comment, if anyone wants to listen to those two comments again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p854CzXOLwY&app=desktop
The whole I'm an only child comment is off. So much emphasis on this , so what if she is an only child !!! Makes no difference to a mothers decision to leave her children .
 
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Listening to the actual voices, I think Sarah sounds angry with Karen, kind of sarcastic. As if she does think Karen has walked out.

Edit: I get the impression that "because I'm an only child" is an allusion to something Karen used to say. Sarah's throwing it back at her.
 
  • #432
This Ch9 video has a couple of sound bites in it of SR making the 'ballistic' comment and the 'because I'm an only child' comment, if anyone wants to listen to those two comments again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p854CzXOLwY&app=desktop

Thanks SA. Below are the screen grabs from that video.

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  • #433
The whole I'm an only child comment is off. So much emphasis on this , so what if she is an only child !!! Makes no difference to a mothers decision to leave her children .

The comment was like dangling a carrot right in front of AR's nose. Did this mark the start of his public revelations? Not sure when they started.


ETA: The Ch9 video is dated 14th July. Don't know when the actual radio interview took place.
 
  • #434
Thanks SA. Below are the screen grabs from that video.

a8Q1Tp5.jpg


AkwhCiQ.jpg

Is the I'm an only child comment put out there for Karen's benefit ? As in don't worry mum, I'm an only child. Code for AR is nothing to us
 
  • #435
SR is in effect Karen's only child and I'm thinking that is how she was treated within the family. It doesn't seem that there was a sibling relationship between SR and AR.
 
  • #436
The comment was like dangling a carrot right in front of AR's nose. Did this mark the start of his public revelations? Not sure when they started.


ETA: The Ch9 video is dated 14th July. Don't know when the actual radio interview took place.

His first reference to the 'family secret' was posted on 16 July 2016.

ETA: The video you posted was published on 14 July 2016.
 
  • #437
The expression on Sarah's face in that screen grab looks like "spoilt brat" to me (sorry)....MOO.
 
  • #438
His first reference to the 'family secret' was posted on 16 July.

Thanks. There you go. Not-so-uncanny timing perhaps?

I notice that 3AW, who conducted the radio interview, clearly stated that SR was the only daughter on 15th July - which is after the radio interview had aired.


The devastated family of the 47-year-old - including her only daughter - are still holding out hope she's alive.

http://www.3aw.com.au/news/search-for-missing-mum-karen-ristevski-20160713-gq5a3r.html
 
  • #439
The expression on Sarah's face in that screen grab looks like "spoilt brat" to me (sorry)....MOO.

I don't see that. Why do you think that tiddles?
 
  • #440
Thanks. There you go. Not-so-uncanny timing perhaps?

I notice that 3AW, who conducted the radio interview, clearly stated that SR was the only daughter on 15th July.


The devastated family of the 47-year-old - including her only daughter - are still holding out hope she's alive.

http://www.3aw.com.au/news/search-for-missing-mum-karen-ristevski-20160713-gq5a3r.html

Sorry SA. I added to my post that the video you posted was published on 14 July. Two days before AR's rants began.
 
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