Found Deceased Australia - Karen Ristevski, 47, Melbourne, Vic, 29 June 2016 - #3

[ozazure]

I get the impression that The Australian reporters are investigative journalists. But if they're this good then if Karen was still alive and/or had run off with someone, surely they would have sniffed that information out somehow?

Surely the police would find evidence of an affair. I doubt anyone starts an extramarital affair with the intentions of staging their own disappearance, so they'd only be taking precautions to hide it from their family, not police. You'd have to have a prepaid phone that you only use for them, not registered in your name, that disappears with you. Anything you did on your computer or phones otherwise would come under scrutiny.

 

[they'll get you]

BBM: I don't think there was a 'plan' to get rid of Karen. But there may, perhaps, have been an angry reaction to Karen trying to leave on a more permanent basis.

Karen had a bad day. Did Karen have a bad day, or did the store have a bad day? Did the arguing start when she got home after the store's bad day? Had she finally just had it with the responsibility seemingly being lumped on her to 'do something' about it? Did she throw up her hands and say "You know what? I am leaving. That is it. I have had it."

Sounds like a perfect storm IMO.

BR responded 'oh no you're not!'

 

[they'll get you]

That's the one driven by the BUTLER.

:silly:

 

[they'll get you]

SouthAussie, you're on fire today! :takeabow:

You beat me to it.
SthAus is rockin'
I want what she's having

 

[SouthAussie]

SouthAussie, you're on fire today! :takeabow:

Lol ... not so much on fire as having been around here long enough to notice that when police start slipping things to the media, like possibilities for a motive for stress followed by murder, they are often onto something and are applying pressure. Otherwise things stay pretty quiet.


Some Aussie stats that are interesting (the most recent I could find). I just hope that Karen is not going to be one of these stats in the future.

http://www.aic.gov.au/publications/current series/mr/21-40/mr21/04_homicide.html


ETA: Lol ... TGY, you are too funny.

 

[they'll get you]

Surely the police would find evidence of an affair. I doubt anyone starts an extramarital affair with the intentions of staging their own disappearance, so they'd only be taking precautions to hide it from their family, not police. You'd have to have a prepaid phone that you only use for them, not registered in your name, that disappears with you. Anything you did on your computer or phones otherwise would come under scrutiny.

It could have been an open relationship. AR said it was a farce.

 

[sleepinoz]

Sounds like a perfect storm IMO.

BR responded 'oh no you're not!'

Maybe he needs her name for all his business ventures......................:thinking:

And, all the assets look like they're in her name.

 

[Unit45]

Money going in cirlces very suspicious to my mind.:bang:


Korse was owed $40,000, *although Mr Ristevski also claimed that at the same time it owed Warrant more than $60,000.

 

[wewillgetyou]

Forensic accounting. If my memory serves me correctly, it has been done in a few missing persons cases that I have followed. Eg: Novy Chardon's case, and I think in Jennifer Ramsaran's case too.


A Forensic Accountant is often retained to analyze, interpret, summarize and present complex financial and business related issues in a manner which is both understandable and properly supported.

Forensic Accountants can be engaged in public practice or employed by insurance companies, banks, police forces, government agencies and other organizations.

http://www.forensicaccounting.com/three.htm

BBM

Also used in Baden-clay if I remember correctly.

I agree about the newspaper releasing info in dribs and drabs as well. I feel so sorry for Sarah in all this

 

[SouthAussie]

Maybe he needs her name for all his business ventures......................:thinking:

And, all the assets look like they're in her name.

Which begs the question, what happens to Karen's assets now?


New laws which took effect in Victoria in October 2010 allow you to apply to the Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal (VCAT) for an order appointing you (or someone else you trust) to manage the missing person’s affairs.

https://www.missingpersons.gov.au/s...F - Publications/OTHER/SAFE KEEPING_FINAL.pdf


Waiting 7 years to prove death:
If 7 years have not passed, the person making the (presumption of death) application will be required to provide significant evidence to support a presumption of death before the Court will make a grant.

http://lcclc.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/LCCLC-VLRC-Guardianship-Review-Submission_final-2.pdf

 

[ozazure]

It could have been an open relationship. AR said it was a farce.

I meant more along the lines as obscuring a relationship with someone you intend to have aid and abet your disappearance would be found out pretty quickly .. Say for instance GBC had chosen to leave Allison instead of kill her, and he had Toni support him in hiding ... there would have been evidence of her romantic involvement with him for them to find in the phone and email records, and one can only assume that then monitoring her comings and goings would lead pretty quickly to his whereabouts. To not be vulnerable to being found in the due course, the whole relationship would need to be untraceable.

 

[emirates1957]

Just went for a visit the house that is near lock doesn't have any building equipment etc outside the home. BR'S VW was in the drive along with old Toyota Corolla. I have the number plates if anybody is interested ??

 

[Unit45]

PM me em1957

 

[Hbayne]

Just went for a visit the house that is near lock doesn't have any building equipment etc outside the home. BR'S VW was in the drive along with old Toyota Corolla. I have the number plates if anybody is interested ??

Sleuth on the ground - love it !!!

 

[Armchair snoop]

I find it interesting that The Australian appears to be the only MSM that is looking deeply into the Financial and Business affairs.

 

[SouthAussie]

I find it interesting that The Australian appears to be the only MSM that is looking deeply into the Financial and Business affairs.

It wouldn't be the first time MSM have published info that has been handed to them by a police department that wants it unofficially out there. imo

The Australian seems to have a better reputation than most other MSM, too. They try not to deviate from facts, much better than the others. That is the part I find interesting. They have (perhaps) been chosen as the source.

 

[Unit45]

With the Australian Article coming out today with some more details of the financial side of the affairs, in keeping an open mind with all these money amounts
mentioned.

If financial circumstances were desperate im wondering if Borce took out a loan somewhere along the line either laundered money or in that ilk?

I know i have had the stranger theory open all along, but there are way too many red flags coming up and i have to logically say im now reducing this
possibility to Unlikely. Mainly basing this on the ongoing Uninterest by Police to not be appealing to the public for a requested photofit of a suspected
abductor.

Without publically ruling this out they are pointing back to the family.

 

[Armchair snoop]

It wouldn't be the first time MSM have published info that has been handed to them by a police department that wants it unofficially out there. imo

The Australian seems to have a better reputation than most other MSM, too. They try not to deviate from facts, much better than the others. That is the part I find interesting. They have (perhaps) been chosen as the source.

Does The Australian know more then they are saying??? Are they using this info to put more pressure on a person of interest???

 

[emirates1957]

PM me em1957

Done.

 

[sleepinoz]

Just went for a visit the house that is near lock doesn't have any building equipment etc outside the home. BR'S VW was in the drive along with old Toyota Corolla. I have the number plates if anybody is interested ??

BBM - The application to build that house was approved by council on 26.09.14 - 2 years ago. Maybe they've run out of money for the moment?

https://online.mvcc.vic.gov.au/ePat...neralEnquiry/EnquiryDetailView.aspx?Id=516391