Found Deceased Australia - Karen Ristevski, 47, Melbourne, Vic, 29 June 2016 - #5

[Makara]

I have missed alot posts..... and I like to read everyones posts...

But just trying to jump on board where I think things stand,...

There is no way a parent who has put up with as much as Borce has would knowingly set up his son or place his murderd wifes body in the vicinity of his sons neighbourhood on purpose.

The phone pings place Karens phone in the more immediate area of her stepson.

Make of that what you will...... but IMO Borce has not set up his son......it is what it is....her phone pinged in the stepsons area..

Borce phone pinged at Diggers Rest...when?....how long after Karens...those are the questions we need answes too.

BBM: Arrgggh Puggles, you're confusing me again. I thought AR lived at Diggers Rest, not at Gisborne where Karen's phone pinged. And BR's phoned pinged near Diggers Rest.

 

[SouthAussie]

It's true what you say about Europeans, family is their everything.

RSBM
I agree with this, too. I know some eastern European families that would probably do anything to keep their sons and daughters out of jail. To protect them. And to maintain their honour.

(Not that I think that is what has happened here, of course. lol )

 

[moreinfo]

Did anyone else notice SR had the matching shoes (Coach brand flats), to KR Coach bag.
Either tells me they shared the same shoe size and shared shoes, or had similar taste in fashion. Either way seems to me they would have been close. if they are sharing shoes or wearing same branded articles, possibly shopping together like mums and daughters do.

 

[they'll get you]

Did anyone else notice SR had the matching shoes (Coach brand flats), to KR Coach bag.
Either tells me they shared the same shoe size and shared shoes, or had similar taste in fashion. Either way seems to me they would have been close. if they are sharing shoes or wearing same branded articles, possibly shopping together like mums and daughters do.

OMG yes I did notice I even stilled the shot and zoomed in thinking at first they were Gucci.

 

[they'll get you]

Phew I can't believe I've caught up.

You guys were pumping steroids tonight.

 

[suzyjackson]

Don't ever be scared to post here Gigi.
Nobody will attack you, not on my watch.

It's true what you say about Europeans, family is their everything.

While this may be true of continenral Europeans and southern ones at that I really can't this happening in the UK. This may explain why I find it hard to see a cover up as a likely outcome. Afaik the Australain legal system is based on the British one (am I right?) and this would be manslaughter at the most and unlikely to have a long custodial sentence IMO

 

[they'll get you]

My pics are small & I can't make them larger.
Looked everywhere how to fix. :lookingitup:

 

[they'll get you]

While this may be true of continenral Europeans and southern ones at that I really can't this happening in the UK. This may explain why I find it hard to see a cover up as a likely outcome. Afaik the Australain legal system is based on the British one (am I right?) and this would be manslaughter at the most and unlikely to have a long custodial sentence IMO

Suzie he'd most likely get off the charge being so high he couldn't remember the incident. 'Not his fault' the drugs did it, sad childhood, the dog ate his homework yadda yadda.

We have a problem in Aus. With our judicial system being ridiculously lenient.
The serial pedophiles are out walking the streets along with rapist and murderers. Our wonderful Policeforce haul them in and the judges let them go.
Recently, a twin brother who sold the victims engagement ring for him murdering brother and only got several months. He due to be released back into the country town where she was violently railed, murdered and burnt.
We truly are fed up with it.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...26-Leeton-NSW-5-April-2015-3-*Arrests*/page30

 

[Unit45]

Il give you guys a rest from me.

Have to look at another case.

See you in the future while i look at the past.

 

[suzyjackson]

Suzie he'd most likely get off the charge being so high he couldn't remember the incident. 'Not his fault' the drugs did it, sad childhood, the dog ate his homework yadda yadda.

We have a problem in Aus. With our judicial system being ridiculously lenient.
The serial pedophiles are out walking the streets along with rapist and murderers. Our wonderful Policeforce haul them in and the judges let them go.
Recently, a twin brother who sold the victims engagement ring for him murdering brother and only got several months. He due to be released back into the country town where she was violently railed, murdered and burnt.
We truly are fed up with it.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...26-Leeton-NSW-5-April-2015-3-*Arrests*/page30

That's interesting, I was on the Stephanie Scott thread but haven't kept up with developments since,

 

[Bohemian]

Have edited my original post Bo..... so much more emotional human things to consider.... please see my updated/edited post.

You're so right, bub. This case doesn't just come down to the interpretation of objective 'facts'. It also encompasses unique human interpretations of those 'facts'; or each individual's subjective 'reality'.

There are strong human emotions at play here. Rivalry, rejection and resentment to name just a few. I can understand why some posters have likened Karen's case to that of a 'soap opera', and PG has angrily stated that the circumstances surrounding the investigation into Karen's disappearance has become a 'circus'; given the multitude of 'twists and turns' reported in MSM over the past two months.

Human emotions, behaviour and relationships are often complex at the best of times. Throw in the disappearance and suspected murder of a key member of a family and the fragile equilibrium of other family members and their relationships with one another nearly always disintegrate in a very ugly and confusing way. It's very easy for even the most detached observer to get caught up in the 'drama' of it all; especially when you have the addition of some multinational media empires exploiting a family tragedy, rather than reporting on the facts, and online commentary from someone who is under the influence of what we know is a devastatingly mind-altering drug.

Given the above, I'm heading back to the '5Ws' (and 1H), to take a good dose of 'Keep It Simple Stupid'.

 

[Dalziel]

How does one act with a missing mother and cameras in your face ? Give the girl a break

Couldn't agree more. It's getting a bit much on here reading the barrage of unsubstantiated assumptions about SR. The poor girl is not a poi, she's a kid caught up in a big mess.

Oh and yes I realise she is an 'adult' but jeez c'mon, at 21 these days, they're still bloody kids.

 

[Westside_Sleuth]

Couldn't agree more. It's getting a bit much on here reading the barrage of unsubstantiated assumptions about SR. The poor girl is not a poi, she's a kid caught up in a big mess.

Oh and yes I realise she is an 'adult' but jeez c'mon, at 21 these days, they're still bloody kids.

Yes, especially when the accusations come from beyond the grave or an 'astral plane'


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[Dalziel]

SR Killed her mother and BR is covering.

This is what i see, no holding back now.

All the family is covering up.

That is a long bow to draw. Wow. Confident much?

 

[Itsapuzzle]

Tappedin's post 985 thread 4, dont' know how to move the epic piece of writing to here, but may I say ......... completely brilliant, I keep re-reading it, so good. Just on the theory that AR and KR left together and BR left in KR's car to follow wouldn't that have been caught on cctv? Or maybe was and public haven't been informed?



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[ediethedog]

Don't ever be scared to post here Gigi.
Nobody will attack you, not on my watch.

It's true what you say about Europeans, family is their everything.

I'm always a little scared too...
What you've said is so so true.. My step sister was a heroin addict when I was a child. My kind and honest step father , a CEO of a large company..from a "good north shore" family in Sydney ( German) , a pillar of the upper middle class community, defrauded Medicare for money to give her. I answered the door to the detectives at age 11. It's amazing the lengths that some parents will go to if pushed. He would never have done anything like that usually. Ever.


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[ediethedog]

How would someone go about finding the black market? Is it feasible that an ordinary person would even know where to start looking? I would have no clue

It's surprisingly simple to access the black market... No longer the realm of the local pub.. The deep web has made it super simple...
Just down load Tor browser and search sites with . Onion suffix.... They change weekly I'm told. Silk Road was the famous one. Now I'm not sure which is the preferred dodgey dark web site. It's as easy as eBay or Craigslist... Or gumtree. Not that I've ever used it, I promise. I just looked for my own interests.... It's fascinating. Lots of passports.


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[sayswho]

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[Puggle]

BBM: Arrgggh Puggles, you're confusing me again. I thought AR lived at Diggers Rest, not at Gisborne where Karen's phone pinged. And BR's phoned pinged near Diggers Rest.

Yeah your correct ....

Im generalizing in that the distance between Gisbourne and Diggers Rest isn't that far ..... In the Herald Sun when the news came out about the pings ...in the (media print) the article sat side by side with another article about the problems or more specifically the issue of analysing exact phone location based soley on a ping ..... Ill see if I can find the story.

Either way the ping has placed her in AR backyard (not literally) ..... but you would get what I mean from a Geo Forensics position.

 

[ediethedog]

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