Found Deceased Australia - Karen Ristevski, 47, Melbourne, Vic, 29 June 2016 - #5

[ediethedog]

Clearly he didnt have media training himself or he would never have picked that pink shirt to wear see how the lines make you feel like your tripping.

hahaha, no pinstripes or small checks...they flare. First rule in tv wardrobe.

 

[tappedin]

Clearly he didnt have media training himself or he would never have picked that pink shirt to wear see how the lines make you feel like your tripping.

To be honest, I think it would have unfolded..."and wear a shirt or something nice", and he grabbed whatever he had in his wardrobe.

That will have to do.

 

[Adrianna]

I genuinely hope someone is keeping a close eye on AR. Hope he doesn't do anything to harm himself.

Yes true.... good for us to all remember that.

 

[Paulas88]

I genuinely hope someone is keeping a close eye on AR. Hope he doesn't do anything to harm himself.

Yes, I was thinking the same.

 

[tappedin]

Yes, I was thinking the same.

Ohh dear. The meth meme. I hope that doesn't trigger anything.

 

[Wonky1]

Hi from a newbie. Just wanted to sayhow impressed I am with all your posts. Karen going missing has troubled me since it happened. I am a local and live on the opposite side of the river. The kids wanted to go to the Steels creek park that morning (as it was school hols) but I said no as we were going to an appointment atlunchtime that day at hillside (so as it turns out we were travelling up the calder in the middle of that day but sorry no dashcam). The thought that she'd been grabbed deeply disturbed me. I spent several days outsearching for her bag and wallet along the area from oakely dve to rosehillroad (this was well before the eventual line search of the area…I was upset/franticthat the police weren’t doing a proper line search) nor had the published a picture of the bag at that stage and initially I’d gotten info that it wassilver. I, like many others, walk thearea frequently and if I was missing I would have expected the search to happenmuch, much earlier (there was a night of helicopters but I can’t remember whatnight in the first week that was as at that stage I didn’t know a lady was missing). Police were obviously already focusing elsewhere in those early weeks.
Having read all of your possible scenarios I am thinking that police wouldn’t put a diver into maribrynong as a publicity stunt (health and safety risk) so they must have had a credible tip. Could whatever have happened, happened at Avondale Heights on Tuesday evening with bag being dumped off bridge at Anglers late in the evening/early hours of the morning (to be found and help it look like a robbery/abduction) but bag has drifted away in subsequent weeks? Then disposing of body Wed morning in toolernvale area (where no one was ever supposed to know or connect the two).

 

[tappedin]

Hi from a newbie. Just wanted to sayhow impressed I am with all your posts. Karen going missing has troubled me since it happened. I am a local and live on the opposite side of the river. The kids wanted to go to the Steels creek park that morning (as it was school hols) but I said no as we were going to an appointment atlunchtime that day at hillside (so as it turns out we were travelling up the calder in the middle of that day but sorry no dashcam). The thought that she'd been grabbed deeply disturbed me. I spent several days outsearching for her bag and wallet along the area from oakely dve to rosehillroad (this was well before the eventual line search of the area…I was upset/franticthat the police weren’t doing a proper line search) nor had the published a picture of the bag at that stage and initially I’d gotten info that it wassilver. I, like many others, walk thearea frequently and if I was missing I would have expected the search to happenmuch, much earlier (there was a night of helicopters but I can’t remember whatnight in the first week that was as at that stage I didn’t know a lady was missing). Police were obviously already focusing elsewhere in those early weeks.
Having read all of your possible scenarios I am thinking that police wouldn’t put a diver into maribrynong as a publicity stunt (health and safety risk) so they must have had a credible tip. Could whatever have happened, happened at Avondale Heights on Tuesday evening with bag being dumped off bridge at Anglers late in the evening/early hours of the morning (to be found and help it look like a robbery/abduction) but bag has drifted away in subsequent weeks? Then disposing of body Wed morning in toolernvale area (where no one was ever supposed to know or connect the two).

That's interesting, that you were travelling up the calder when BR had driven perhaps back. And you live very close by.
Hope you keep searching around your area, you never know what you may find to help the situation.

 

[Wonky1]

One other thing on driving up the calder tofix a car. I’ve done that several timesmyself when I have left the interior lights on in the car and I’ve needed tocharge the battery. Our neighbours havea collector car that only leaves the garage a couple of times a year for a spinup the calder to sunbury or diggers rest and back again. But if you’re looking to unstick a fuel gaugethen there are speed humps along riviera dve that should havedislodged it (if you exit that way to millieara road) rather than dicksonstreet to buckley street. There’s adoozy at the bottom of a valley next to Monte carlo pk that I’ve hit at speedmore than once by accident….guaranteed to give your car nice bump!

 

[ScottKam]

Borce, in the Merc, up the Calder, testing the fool gauge.

 

[ScottKam]

One connection that people have not made- at least not to my reading- is that Karen inherited hundreds of thousands of dollars from her late father, and two interesting events, most likely connected, transpired thereafter:

1) Sarah has a 21st and possibly gains a lump-sum from Karen. Possibly Karen buys Sarah a new car. And,
2) The Rickard (he deserves that title, not for good reasons, either) decides to ask for rehab costs, no doubt inspired by Karen's inheritance and jealousy about Sarah getting money from Karen.

I'm not sure what this has to do with Karen's disappearance, but it would be terribly coincidental if they were not all related matters.

 

[ScottKam]

I am interested in the theory that Sarah, possibly in a fit of rage, killed Karen accidentally and Borce disposed of the body. This could be the case if Sarah and Karen had an argument regarding Rickard and rehab costs, or Rickard and those scandalous affair/molestation allegations. Sarah pushed Karen, Karen fell down the stairs and died. Then Borce covered it up. This is plausible.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

I don't think it's plausible Sarah killed Karen, if police thought that they'd have spoon fed stories of misdeeds Sarah had committed, instead they have focused on Borce. Sarah's only fault may be one of denial and a protective streak around the only remaining member of her immediate family she has left.

 

[ScottKam]

I don't think it's plausible Sarah killed Karen, if police thought that they'd have spoon fed stories of misdeeds Sarah had committed, instead they have focused on Borce. Sarah's only fault may be one of denial and a protective streak around the only remaining member of her immediate family she has left.

What misdeeds of Sarah's could the cops leak? There might be none, and i don't see how leaking Sarah's misdeeds could help the police cause.

It is entirely possible Sarah pushed Karen down the stairs, unwantingly killing her mum. Borce is the target as he- no doubt- did the disposing of the body. Sarah most certainly wasn't capable of that.

 

[ScottKam]

Another thing i will mention- though i truly hesitate to mention this, as it is numbingly awful- is that Karen could be not all in one piece. I've noticed that people are assuming Karen will be found deceased and intact. Imagine the gut-wrenching horror if she is not found whole. This all depends on what has happened and who disposed of her. If a party other than Borce disposed of Karen, like if Vasko took over from Borce after Borce delivered Karen up to Bayley (Adrian Ernest) territory, then if someone else took over it could be grisly. For the sake of completeness this should be mentioned, though it truly is morally repugnant- the doing, the mentioning lesser so. But i have broad shoulders and can handle your opprobrium

 

[Hbayne]

Another thing i will mention- though i truly hesitate to mention this, as it is numbingly awful- is that Karen could be not all in one piece. I've noticed that people are assuming Karen will be found deceased and intact. Imagine the gut-wrenching horror if she is not found whole. This all depends on what has happened and who disposed of her. If a party other than Borce disposed of Karen, like if Vasko took over from Borce after Borce delivered Karen up to Bayley (Adrian Ernest) territory, then if someone else took over it could be grisly. For the sake of completeness this should be mentioned, though it truly is morally repugnant- the doing, the mentioning lesser so. But i have broad shoulders and can handle your opprobrium

Was this post really necessary?

 

[Itsapuzzle]

Yes, he should really set his FB to private.

Yes, I think he is trying to increase his readership by leaving it set to public [emoji4]


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[Mrs G Norris]

What misdeeds of Sarah's could the cops leak? There might be none, and i don't see how leaking Sarah's misdeeds could help the police cause.

It is entirely possible Sarah pushed Karen down the stairs, unwantingly killing her mum. Borce is the target as he- no doubt- did the disposing of the body. Sarah most certainly wasn't capable of that.

Heaps, if she really was a killer! You don't go from perfect daughter to mother killer overnight. If she truly had killed Karen she'd have made errors and police would spoon feed those to media to maintain pressure and focus public attention on Sarah. They're not, because they're looking at Borce, because you can bet your bottom dollar they have a LOT more on him than they're releasing right now, and if we knew all of it we wouldn't even be debating this.

 

[Adrianna]

Was this post really necessary?

Agreed

 

[Itsapuzzle]

What misdeeds of Sarah's could the cops leak? There might be none, and i don't see how leaking Sarah's misdeeds could help the police cause.

It is entirely possible Sarah pushed Karen down the stairs, unwantingly killing her mum. Borce is the target as he- no doubt- did the disposing of the body. Sarah most certainly wasn't capable of that.

I reckon being pushed down the stairs would have a good chance of looking like an accident so why not call ambulance straight after? You'd be amazed how many people die from legitimate accidents in their homes[emoji51]


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[ScottKam]

I reckon being pushed down the stairs would have a good chance of looking like an accident so why not call ambulance straight after? You'd be amazed how many people die from legitimate accidents in their homes[emoji51]


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I agree, an ambulance should have been called. I don't know why they would not have. Maybe they panicked and thought they would get tried for murder and decided to conceal it all.