GUILTY Australia - Lisa Harnum, 30, killed in 15-storey fall, Sydney, 30 July 2011 #3

[sleepinoz]

When do you think the judge decided on his years in gaol? I doubt all these shannigans be influencing her decision today? Surely she wouldn't be plucking out a number today at the 11th hour.

I think she has to take all the testimony from yesterday and today and deliberate, (to make it look good) before she makes a decision on sentencing. Probably not today.

 

[TK8895]

Some courts have lunch until 2.00pm. I wonder if this is one of them.

Justice is not only blind but pretty hungry at that buffet. :drumroll:

 

[sleepinoz]

Amy Dale ‏@amydale_tele 3m

Update on today's #Gittany hearing so far. Date for the sentence will be set this afternoon, via @dailytelegraph http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...s-rehabilitation/story-fni0cx12-1226819386626 …

 

[sleepinoz]

Just set up a thread for that case thanks sleepinoz!

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[they'll get you]

I was told the judge doesn't have to give sentencing today, she can consider & give her finding in months time. If judge gives any reference to amount of gaol time then it would be a mistrial.

 

[Trooper]

I might just grab a bag of popcorn and mosey on out to Merrylands just for the hell of it...I never claimed to be a nice person...

 

[Marg from Oz]

What about the interview on sunday night? He has been told that all this publicity is hurting him. Wonder if Rachelle will pull it until after the sentencing. I presume it has already been taped.

 

[sleepinoz]

What about the interview on sunday night? He has been told that all this publicity is hurting him. Wonder if Rachelle will pull it until after the sentencing. I presume it has already been taped.

Don't think she will get any say in the matter. Hope it hurts his chances more.

 

[madamehdivision]

I think she has to take all the testimony from yesterday and today and deliberate, (to make it look good) before she makes a decision on sentencing. Probably not today.

Quite right, sleepinoz.

Her Honour will stand the matter over, likely for a fortnight, in order to compile her remarks ob sentence. There will be quite a bit of work involved, and it will be interesting to see if Her Honour concurs with Tedeschi as to the objective seriousness of the offence.

 

[sleepinoz]

my Dale ‏@amydale_tele 3m

#Gittany counsel: criminal history shouldn't be considered at length as only one violent episode (biting policeman's ear) 20 years ago

 

[sleepinoz]

eonie Ryan ‏@LeonieFRyan 5m

Defence says there's a gap in the Crown case - no evidence as to how Lisa was rendered unconscious. #Gittany

Jodie Speers ‏@jodiespeers 5m

Strickland says there's a gap in the Crown case - no evidence as to how Lisa Harnum was rendered unconscious before plunging off balcony

 

[sleepinoz]

eonie Ryan ‏@LeonieFRyan 5m

Defence says there's a gap in the Crown case - no evidence as to how Lisa was rendered unconscious. #Gittany

Jodie Speers ‏@jodiespeers 5m

Strickland says there's a gap in the Crown case - no evidence as to how Lisa Harnum was rendered unconscious before plunging off balcony

Maybe holding his hand over her mouth.

 

[icu nurse]

Slightly OT, but does a certain someone look rather more "bloated" than the trial shots to anyone else? May just be TTOM but there is a certain roundness there that wasn't three months ago.
I wonder if that particular reveal will occur when the dollars are paid on Sunday night.

 

[sleepinoz]

Jodie Speers ‏@jodiespeers 2m

'There is not just saturation (media) coverage - but also the hatred and denunciation that has followed' #gittany


Leonie Ryan ‏@LeonieFRyan 2m

Justice Lucy McCallum asked to take into account #Gittany has suffered public humiliation and disgrace. @NewsTalk2UE


Jodie Speers ‏@jodiespeers 3m

Strickland says Gittany has suffered public humiliation to a greater degree than normal, and that should be taken into acct on sentencing

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Jodie Speers ‏@jodiespeers 2m

'There is not just saturation (media) coverage - but also the hatred and denunciation that has followed' #gittany


Leonie Ryan ‏@LeonieFRyan 2m

Justice Lucy McCallum asked to take into account #Gittany has suffered public humiliation and disgrace. @NewsTalk2UE


Jodie Speers ‏@jodiespeers 3m

Strickland says Gittany has suffered public humiliation to a greater degree than normal, and that should be taken into acct on sentencing

Is it just me...

Or is hatred and public humiliation natural consequences of killing innocent, wonderful women?

:waitasec:

 

[they'll get you]

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I'm fearful of the volatility outside the courtroom this afternoon.

BTW my daughter attended court yesterday and she told me RL & SG were so convincing on the stand she came away thinking he is innocent. When SG took the stand and said his oath, both SC & the judge totally locked their eyes, she said it was a moment words can't describe. She was impressed that a 24 year old woman could remain so calm when the media were acting like vicious wolves, pushing & shoving her for that ONE money spinning photo. Interesting to get her perspective being inside & outside the court.
My daughter is very gullible.

 

[sleepinoz]

Slightly OT, but does a certain someone look rather more "bloated" than the trial shots to anyone else? May just be TTOM but there is a certain roundness there that wasn't three months ago.
I wonder if that particular reveal will occur when the dollars are paid on Sunday night.

I would think if that was true, they would use it to try and lesson his sentence. Let's hope it's not true.

 

[sleepinoz]

odie Speers &#8207;@jodiespeers 4m

Strickland says Lisa's murder is BELOW mid range. No planning, sudden loss of control, no weapon, she didn't know what was to happen to her

Amy Dale &#8207;@amydale_tele 6m

#Gittany should get less than standard non parole period of 20 years, as murder is below mid range of seriousness, his barrister submits

Leonie Ryan &#8207;@LeonieFRyan 10m

Defence says she (Lisa) didn't know she was going to be thrown over, given she was possibly rendered unconscious. #Gittany @NewsTalk2UE

 

[sleepinoz]

Jodie Speers &#8207;@jodiespeers 3m

Strickland says #gittany should get a non parole period significantly less than 20 yrs

 

[sleepinoz]

Matthew Snelson &#8207;@mattsnelson9 3m

Because the crime involved a sudden loss of control, there was no planning and no aggravating factors like the use of a weapon #gittany
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Matthew Snelson &#8207;@mattsnelson9 3m

Gittany's lawyer is asking the court to consider a non-parole period of significantly less than 20 years.
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Amy Dale &#8207;@amydale_tele 3m

"A significantly lower non parole period than 20 years...would be warranted." Now comparing it to sentence Gordon Wood received #gittany