GUILTY Australia - Lisa Harnum, 30, killed in 15-story fall, Sydney, 30 July 2011 #4

  • #601
I thought of something when I was mulling over the Sunday Night show.

Obviously the judge saw straight through Gittany's lies and someone else probably thought of this months ago ... but I still wanted to share it.

At first Gittany said that she could have done a ballerina pirouette over the balcony, which explains why her fingerprints weren't there. He must have realised how ridiculous that idea is, so then RL (I think?) said that she might have used her handbag to hide her prints.

One of the signs RL was holding said something about Lisa still holding onto her handbag when she was found on the ground, and she wouldn't have been doing so if she was unconscious.

Well why would she still have been holding onto it if she had used it to stop herself from leaving fingerprints? If she folded the handbag and used it to stop herself from leaving prints, there's no way it could have ended up back in a normal 'handbag hold' by the time she hit the ground.

When RL held that sign, I remember showing the photo to my husband and laughing that she felt it was in some way exonerative.

I had the same feeling about the Sunday night farce *cough*"investigation".

Not to mention the bag that was used in the reenactment was empty, where as Lisa's was not. I doubt any average female handbag that seems to hold far more inside than it would appear, especially when you're rushing to find keys in the rain - would be able to be folded in such a way.

Was their theory that the edge of the glass was too sharp and such it should be used? Or that, in her terror her most pressing thought was to ensure she didn't leave prints?

Lisa was packed, preparing an escape. I'd imagine her bag was too full to use this sort of hold.

I can't say with certainty that I recall a definitive statement about her bag being on her arm on the ground - but I find it being so close in proximity to her puts the handbag hold out of the question.

I used to live on the 32nd floor of an apartment in Sydney (many moons ago) and I dropped a sticky tape dispenser off it (in a poorly thought out attempt to put up fairy lights. Thankfully, no-one was injured, but the shattered dispenser was located a significant distance away from where I had anticipated.

I'm no physicist - but I imagine that even with the same initial trajectory, two objects with vastly different weights from such a height would most certainly not end up in the same spot.

Alas, my single story house in the burbs of Adelaide doesn't allow me the chance to experiment.
 
  • #602
Maybe from the Placards we can work out just what RL was going on about ...and possibly what the SG Appeal will be about...

Im sure we can answer a few of these questions for RL :)

RL PLACARDs pic 1


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What they say...

Where are the set of Lisa's fingerrprints?
-----
Where's Michelle Richmonds notes from storage and why do her emails cease to work?
-----
Where is Yuto Yoshioka's first statement to the Police?
-----
Andrew Mallard
Roseanne Catt
Darryl Beamish
Lindy Chamberland
Gordon Wood

-----
Why didn't the Police examine the awning?
-----

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  • #603
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. RL PLACARDS pic 2

What it says...
How do you render some1 unconscious in less than 65sec without any sign fromtrauma to body?


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  • #604
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from Ten News

This one needs filling in - any takers..

What they say...

Lisa Harmun said to Helen Sharwo--
"Simon is so go------
He was going t------
a Priest, he
Spiritual. Sh------
Not see she -----
Ever be as -----

-----
 
  • #605
RL PLACARD 8


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What is says...
Why was Lisa still holding her handbag? And how if she was unconscious?
-----
Lisa Harmun said to Helen Sharwood
"Simon is so good,
He was going to be
a Priest, he is very
Spiritual. She does
not see she could
ever be as good as he(?)

-----
 
  • #606
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What it says...
Bellanto "Given the extremely short time frame and given the distance you were away, would you agree that there may well be some doubt about the accuracy of your observations?" Rathmell "absolutely"


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  • #607
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from Ten News

This one needs filling in - any takers..

What they say...

Lisa Harmun said to Helen Sharwo--
"Simon is so go------
He was going t------
a Priest, he
Spiritual. Sh------
Not see she -----
Ever be as -----

-----

I could fill a few words in there - but I doubt they would be what was originally on the placard :floorlaugh:
 
  • #608
There are two signs here that I only have snippets of...

one of them says:
Reasonable Doubt

the other is just a snippet...
(?) ------ you looked up and what you saw --------- (?)

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  • #609
A list of the Placard wordings...
Please add if you see some more :)


Where are the set of Lisa's fingerrprints?
-----
Where's Michelle Richmonds notes from storage and why do her emails cease to work?
-----
Where is Yuto Yoshioka's first statement to the Police?
-----
Andrew Mallard
Roseanne Catt
Darryl Beamish
Lindy Chamberland
Gordon Wood
-----
Why didn't the Police examine the awning?
-----
How do you render some1 unconscious in less than 65sec without any sign of trauma to body?
-----
Why was Lisa still holding her handbag? And how if she was unconscious?
-----
Lisa Harmun said to Helen Sharwood
"Simon is so good,
He was going to be
a Priest, he is very
Spiritual. She does
not see she could
ever be as good as he(?)
-----
Bellanto "Given the extremely short time frame and given the distance you were away, would you agree that there may well be some doubt about the accuracy of your observations?" Rathmell "absolutely"
-----
one of them says:
Reasonable Doubt
-----
the other is just a snippet...
(?) ------ you looked up and what you saw --------- (?)


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  • #610
RL should think herself lucky Gittany's not claiming she did a stripper-leap off that balcony, instead of poor Lisa and the fictional ballerina jump.
 
  • #611
Maybe from the Placards we can work out just what RL was going on about ...and possibly what the SG Appeal will be about...

Im sure we can answer a few of these questions for RL :)

RL PLACARDs pic 1


picture.php


What they say...

Where are the set of Lisa's fingerrprints?
-----
Where's Michelle Richmonds notes from storage and why do her emails cease to work?
-----
Where is Yuto Yoshioka's first statement to the Police?
-----
Andrew Mallard
Roseanne Catt
Darryl Beamish
Lindy Chamberland
Gordon Wood

-----
Why didn't the Police examine the awning?
-----

.

Where are Lisa's fingerprints?
Says the female who helped sign seal and deliver the notion that SG can't do remorse type stuff because he insists on his innocence.
Duh, That is the whole point, is it not? No fingerprints, proving a ballerina style leap (never before been performed in all history) is no more than a stupid furphy put forward by the accused, at great cost to the Crown.

I regret ever for feeling sorry for this disgusting female life form. Certainly no lady.
That she has DARED to blame Lisa for her own demise, with references to STDs provides evidence for her filthy disgusting mindset. Plus her vacuous head. Plus her incapability to grasp the simplest concepts of life or love or anything spiritual.
This is one dumb vacuous derogatory dangerous and ignorant broad. Has it had any education at all?
BTW Karma happens. (Never used to believe that, but didn't realize the time frame involved)

This dreadful matter is and was about Lisa and her murderer. How where and why. Shame Shame Shame RL.
 
  • #612
All those placards appear to written in the same hand-writing.
BTW and IMO they portray ignorance and a baseness of the lowest level.
 
  • #613
RL should think herself lucky Gittany's not claiming she did a stripper-leap off that balcony, instead of poor Lisa and the fictional ballerina jump.

WHAT A STRIPPER-LEAP?:floorlaugh:

OMG far too much graphic information for me,
A quick swivel around the pole and then....a split leap
Ewwww too late in the day & I've had dinner


:hills:
:eek:
:puke:
 
  • #614
  • #615
http://www.cosmopolitan.com.au/relationships/relationship-advice/2014/3/when-love-becomes-abuse/

When love becomes abuse

Last year, the entire country watched as Simon Gittany was found guilty of the murder of his fiancée Lisa Harnum, 31, by throwing her off the balcony of their luxury Sydney apartment in July 2011. The murder itself was shocking, but revelations throughout the trial that demonstrated Gittany’s controlling behaviour were appalling.

This guy is going to be used as a reference for domestic violence for a long time.
 
  • #616
It's all quiet here & that's kinda good.
It's porridge for simon, nothing more nothing less for a long long lonely time.
God only know whose couch Rachell is sleeping on or doing with her life.
Who really cares?

I never saw the similarities between the sweet Lisa & the <modsnip>
So wonderful to see justice has been served and the people involved have got what they've been screaming so loudly for.........LONG LONELY SILENCE. :great:

GOODNIGHT IRENE

:offtobed::offtobed:

OH, by the way Simon, its porridge for breakfast tomorrow.......again.
 
  • #617
On the same day the media crowded into the Supreme Court to hear a judge find Simon Gittany guilty of murdering his girlfriend Lisa Harnum, Keeli Dutton lay dead in her apartment.
There was no expensive high-rise apartment, instead a housing commission block in Miller.
One woman is killed every week in Australia by a current or former partner, the Australian Institute of Criminology has reported.

In NSW, 24 women were killed last year in domestic-related incidents. They spanned all ages and backgrounds, from the eastern suburbs to country towns.


http://www.illawarramercury.com.au/story/2139020/forgotten-victims-of-domestic-violence/?cs=298
 
  • #618
It's all quiet here & that's kinda good.
It's porridge for simon, nothing more nothing less for a long long lonely time.
God only know whose couch Rachell is sleeping on or doing with her life.
Who really cares?

I never saw the similarities between the sweet Lisa & the <modsnip>
So wonderful to see justice has been served and the people involved have got what they've been screaming so loudly for.........LONG LONELY SILENCE. :great:

GOODNIGHT IRENE

:offtobed::offtobed:

OH, by the way Simon, its porridge for breakfast tomorrow.......again.

Lol I use that phrase all the time.
 
  • #619
On the same day the media crowded into the Supreme Court to hear a judge find Simon Gittany guilty of murdering his girlfriend Lisa Harnum, Keeli Dutton lay dead in her apartment.
There was no expensive high-rise apartment, instead a housing commission block in Miller.
One woman is killed every week in Australia by a current or former partner, the Australian Institute of Criminology has reported.

In NSW, 24 women were killed last year in domestic-related incidents. They spanned all ages and backgrounds, from the eastern suburbs to country towns.


http://www.illawarramercury.com.au/story/2139020/forgotten-victims-of-domestic-violence/?cs=298

Thanks for posting the above TGY. The Keeli Dutton case is so sad!. I've started a thread on it....

Australia - Deadly endings after relationships went so askew - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community
 
  • #620
Judges fight 'out of touch' tag with courtroom broadcasts, jurors' surveys

NSW Supreme Court Chief Justice Tom Bathurst will hold a public forum on sentencing to ''help bridge the misinformation gap'' and educate the community on the principles judges are required to adopt when sentencing, such as an offender's age, mental state, character and discounts up to 25 per cent for a guilty.

Cameras have been allowed in a few high-profile cases, including the Court of Criminal Appeal's verdict in Gordon Wood's successful appeal against his conviction for the murder of Caroline Byrne, and the sentencing of Keli Lane for the murder of her baby, Tegan.
But when sentencing Simon Gittany for the murder of Lisa Harnum, Justice Lucy McCallum declined broadcast requests.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/judges-fi...ors-surveys-20140325-35ghn.html#ixzz2xfhWfCig


http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/judges-fi...broadcasts-jurors-surveys-20140325-35ghn.html
 

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