Deceased/Not Found Australia - Lynette Dawson, 34, Sydney, Jan 1982 *husband guilty* #5

[Cliff Hardy]

I don’t want to come across as being overly macabre, but I’m actually quite curious. How do you think he killed her, @Cliff Hardy ? Or is this Sub Judice because of appeal and it can’t be discussed?

TIA

Ellery

I honestly don't know how Chris killed Lyn but there are a number of things that point to it having been premeditated and that he had chosen the night fairly carefully.

JC said that Lyn didn't drink but that Chris would spike her drinks so as he and JC could have sex after Lyn had passed out. JC was surprised to hear Lyn's mother's comment that Lyn sounded 'sozzled' on the phone the night of her probable death because the drink spiking was something usually reserved for the above.

It seems obvious that things started that fateful night with Chris spiking Lyn's drink but what happened after that is anyone's guess.

Did he poison Lyn? Did he wait until she was out of it and hit her with something? Did he suffocate Lyn? I just don't know?

 

[Witness 28]

Det Scott Cook is running the William Tyrrell homicide investigation; he went missing from the mid North Coast. Scott Cook is head of homicide.

I'm sure he will find the answers, and for the first time they're on the right track they know what happened or believe they know what happened to little William

 

[Cliff Hardy]

Assuming Paul and Marilyn were actually on holiday where and when they claimed, according to Hedley it was only a short diversion from Chris' route to South West Rocks, where he was headed to pick up JC from her schoolies holiday.

So there is the possibility that Chris temporarily buried or placed Lyn's body somewhere and then took her body with him when he ventured to get JC. This would have enabled him to pick up his brother who may have assisted with Lyn's disposal.

But l favour the scenario where Paul wasn't on holiday like he claimed. That Chris sought his assistance and Lyn ended up at the rubbish dump where they had worked and knew what an ideal location it provided.

 

[silvercrown]

@Witness 28 Thanks for your replies. Sorry if I’ve missed it in your previous responses to the thread but where were you when you spoke to Lyn? I must say I’m a bit confused as to Lyn being out that night and waiting for someone to drive her, where?

 

[Witness 28]

@Witness 28 Thanks for your replies. Sorry if I’ve missed it in your previous responses to the thread but where were you when you spoke to Lyn? I must say I’m a bit confused as to Lyn being out that night and waiting for someone to drive her, where?

Newtown Leagues Club 8th of January 1982 830. 9 o'clock she told me she was supposed to meet someone, Lynette didn't drive it's a Christian Paul would have to arrange for her to be driven somewhere by a friend who just happened to work at the Newtown Leagues. Club

 

[Witness 28]

Newtown Leagues Club 8th of January 1982 830. 9 o'clock she told me she was supposed to meet someone, Lynette didn't drive it's a Chris Paul would have to arrange for her to be driven somewhere by a friend who just happened to work at the Newtown Leagues. Club

 

[Cliff Hardy]

Extract from Lyn's mother Helana Simms' diary :

'Friday, 8 January 1982: Rang Lyn, sounded half sozzled said all was well.'

Pre mobile phones. Meaning Lyn was home at the time.

 

[Witness 28]

That's possible. But if what you're saying about Lyn's last movements had been accepted at the trial, and if there was also evidence that Chris was at home, then there would have been reasonable doubt that Chris caused her death.

Hi JLZ, it's been documented and suspected that he hired a hitman, before people in the car Chris and Paul and the two babysitters he went to a venue got out, went into the venue came back out into the glove box pulled out an envelope and went back into the venue payoff for Hitman Hitman worked at the Newtown Leagues Club, Chris and Paul Dawson need an alibi for Friday night, that's why they hired a hitman, to make it a clean job ,no Miss at home ,no blood no confusion.
The Hitman would have told him what day what time and for them to get an alibi together,

 

[silvercrown]

Newtown Leagues Club 8th of January 1982 830. 9 o'clock she told me she was supposed to meet someone, Lynette didn't drive it's a Christian Paul would have to arrange for her to be driven somewhere by a friend who just happened to work at the Newtown Leagues. Club

Was Lyn inside the venue? As far as I’m aware (no reference on the podcast and no witness testimony at trial) no other eyewitnesses have said they saw Lyn that night.

 

[Cliff Hardy]

Any claim or theory needs to include Lyn being at home on the evening of Friday 8th January because it is one of the few unchallenged facts. Her own mother spoke to her there.

 

[JLZ]

Any claim or theory needs to include Lyn being at home on the evening of Friday 8th January because it is one of the few unchallenged facts. Her own mother spoke to her there.

It's a fact that her mother believed she spoke to Lyn. I think different opinions are possible about whether a devoted mother could in any circumstances be deceived as to her daughter's voice.

 

[Witness 28]

It's a fact that her mother believed she spoke to Lyn. I think different opinions are possible about whether a devoted mother could in any circumstances be deceived as to her daughter's voice.

Lynette did drink she was not a social drinker person on the phone was drunk and slaring Marilyn

 

[Sillybilly]

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[Ellery84]

I'm sure he will find the answers, and for the first time they're on the right track they know what happened or believe they know what happened to little William

That’s reassuring to hear: @Witness 28

 

[k-mac]

It is becoming more and more apparent to me that although Chris and Paul were obviously tainted with the exact same brush, Lynette and MD could hardly have been more different to each other.

Right
and likely why one is dead and one lived.

 

[Cliff Hardy]

Any one have any insight into the appeal? I think I read it’s this year (perhaps May?)

I wonder what the grounds for appeal are

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/courts-law/convicted-wife-killer-chris-dawsons-desperate-bid-to-be-released-from-jail/news-story/c1a01f7d7e2d5a4dc6333d79453a5561

So the reasons provided for the appeal are as follows :

1/ Dawson was subject to a “significant forensic disadvantage” because of the four decades between Lynette’s disappearance and the trial, meaning evidence and witnesses were no longer available.

2/ It was wrong to infer that Dawson displayed a consciousness of guilt.

3/ The verdict was “unreasonable” and not supported by the evidence.

4/ There was “inadequate” evidence to prove that Lyn Dawson was not alive after January 9, 1982.

5/ That “on the whole of the evidence” it was “not open” to find beyond a reasonable doubt that Dawson was guilty.

 

[EssieMarie83]

Thanks @Cliff Hardy

 

[musicaljoke]

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/courts-law/convicted-wife-killer-chris-dawsons-desperate-bid-to-be-released-from-jail/news-story/c1a01f7d7e2d5a4dc6333d79453a5561

So the reasons provided for the appeal are as follows :

1/ Dawson was subject to a “significant forensic disadvantage” because of the four decades between Lynette’s disappearance and the trial, meaning evidence and witnesses were no longer available.

2/ It was wrong to infer that Dawson displayed a consciousness of guilt.

3/ The verdict was “unreasonable” and not supported by the evidence.

4/ There was “inadequate” evidence to prove that Lyn Dawson was not alive after January 9, 1982.

5/ That “on the whole of the evidence” it was “not open” to find beyond a reasonable doubt that Dawson was guilty.

Well, it seems pretty slam dunk that Dawson doesn't have any hope of being awarded an appeal. All these points were carefully discussed in the reasons given for the guilty finding.

 

[Cliff Hardy]

The more comments you read from those Hedley interviewed the clearer the picture becomes that Paul Dawson led the way in almost everything and Chris was always struggling to play catchup.

Just one example is their rugby career. Paul had played something like 25 first grade rugby matches before Chris made his debut, on the bench. Paul played 107 career first grade matches while Chris played 55 and Paul was always considered the much better player.

 

[Cliff Hardy]

Barbara Cruse, head of the childcare centre where Lyn Dawson worked, was interviewed by Hedley in around 2018 and her comments are are as perceptive as they are interesting :

'We used to know Paul and Paul's wife, Marilyn as well, and she used to have her children in the centre. We knew them all reasonably well.'

'Chris was the golden-haired boy. Everything Chris did had to be right. So therefore, if there was something wrong with the marriage, it was her (Lyn's) fault. That was how Marilyn saw it as well. I think they just thought she didn't look after herself. Marilyn was quite an attractive lady, quite slim. And Lyn had put on a bit of weight.'

'I think what happened with them, he's a very handsome man. A model. And she was a very attractive girl when they married. So 12 years later, she'd got a bit bigger. She still had a gorgeous smile and was still, I would say, a lovely girl but she wasn't model material. And i think maybe Chris was about the looks by that stage.'