Australia Australia - Marion Barter, 51, missing after trip to UK, June 1997 #11

[Deleted member 249471]

I finally found the timestamp of when aliases were read out to DdH.
I've updated the list with new additions or clarifications in pink. Also thanks to @chicken96 's list.

Full alias list
NSW Police are aware of over 30 aliases linked to RB, nationally and internationally.
Source: Inquest Day 6, 35mins and NAA file

Willy Coppenolle
Willy David Coppenolle
Willy Wouters
Wouters Willy

David Fredy
Fredy David
Ricky David

Frederick David de Hedervary
Frederick Dehedervary (no space after 'de')
Frederick De Hedervaru (ends in U instead of Y)
Frederike De Hevedervary (female spelling)
Francis David de Hedervary

Chaim Frederick David Dehedervary
Chaim de Hedervary
Chaim Frederick David
Chaim David

Richard Lloyd West
Richard Westbury
Richard Lloyd Westbury
Ric West
Ric Richard
Ric Blum

Fernand Nocolas Remakel
Roger Lauzoney
Roger Lazoney

Bernard Dupont (RB claims it’s his friend)
Christopher Dupont
Atilla / Urtilla Dupont

Tony Grecca
Anthony Grech

Christopher Stein
Fleming (last name)
Wilson (last name)
Charles Guyon / Geaton
Gaeton Le Brousko
Frank Melon
Remy Lajoie

Zabdeel Zilly / Zadil Zwilling
Guy de Vio / de Veo
Phillipe Dent / Yeleek Dint

 

[Deleted member 249471]

I keep returning to this and then I return to: why bring it through actual immigration and then I think about JO and the blonde hair.
Absolutely. Where else would the Trendwest Remakel be receiving their pay other than a bank a/c? Did Aus do cash payments then?

I'm also reminded that he used "Frederike De Hevedervary" which is the female spelling of Frederick.

No, I personally don't recall cash payments between 2001-04.

I suspect the Trenwest stint was not a legitimate way to make a living, but rather a way to syphon money from customers. Paraphrasing what a sleuth said a while ago, be vary careful when purchasing timeshares. Have a proper lawyer go through the contract!

 

[Estelle]

I dont think so.
DdeH was 19 - a bit early to be celebrating her 21st in 1970 I should think.

Interestingly though seeing as you bring up the age difference with her parents....
Wonka was 31 at the time (wondering what the wealthy walkers thought of that? Given he was an immigrant with no funds, coming back into a country he only briefly stayed in, with limited English, no job prospects, and no place to stay until that magical union happened between them all ' at a hotel prior' or 'on a ship' ( his UNUSUAL way of transportation - never been on one since I dont think)

Also noted her sister would have turned 21 that year (the same yr she married) and....also noted that she and hubby and other relatives also left Aussieland the first part of 1970 and all returned the following year 1971

Something is rotten in the State of Denmark if you ask me

Diane turned 20 in 1971 just after they returned on the Chusan. So I still think that it could have been a pre 21st birthday gift from her parents. In my case, I was offered a big party, money for a trip overseas or money to buy a block of land. I chose the money for an overseas trip. I assume the parents paid for Diane so she could have chosen the overseas trip as I had. But they went a little earlier due to her father's possible retirement.

Yes RB was 12 years older than Diane but her father was 12 years older than her mother so they really couldn't advise her not to marry an older man. Yes RB, as we know him, was poor, but he probably acted as if he was wealthy - A Company Director or Photographer - his broken English with a French accent was probably charming to them and they probably helped him with his English. If he told the stories of his past that we've since heard about, they could been fascinated at the dinner table every night or have even felt sorry for him. For that to happen, he would have needed to be in the same class as they were. Did he pay for the cheapest fare on the ship for a dorm bed with several other men in Tourist Class and was upgraded to First Class for some reason or had he met or worked for the Walkers in Sydney when he arrived in 1969, DdH was smitten with him, so the parents invited him to join them. Perhaps he shared a cabin with DdH at the parent's expense and later stayed with them after the ship docked.

 

[gymtonic]

I'm also reminded that he used "Frederike De Hevedervary" which is the female spelling of Frederick.

No, I personally don't recall cash payments between 2001-04.

I suspect the Trenwest stint was not a legitimate way to make a living, but rather a way to syphon money from customers. Paraphrasing what a sleuth said a while ago, be vary careful when purchasing timeshares. Have a proper lawyer go through the contract!

I’m going to have a look at your longer bank posts when I get back, but just quickly here…the French female spelling of Frédéric is Frédérique…if anyone is searching.

 

[KiwiNZ]

Diane turned 20 in 1971 just after they returned on the Chusan. So I still think that it could have been a pre 21st birthday gift from her parents. In my case, I was offered a big party, money for a trip overseas or money to buy a block of land. I chose the money for an overseas trip. I assume the parents paid for Diane so she could have chosen the overseas trip as I had. But they went a little earlier due to her father's possible retirement.

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or maybe she wasn't trustworthy ( or too trustworthy) to be left in Australia. I still cant figure if she is a bit challenged, and maybe couldn't be left alone for that amount of time ?

 

[Estelle]

Opening additional bank accounts at different banks may explain a few of his name changes too. Passport + drivers license = 100 points of ID, which is required to open an account.

I have often wondered if RB has been receiving a disability pension in other names, using different addresses sent to different banks.

 

[Liselle]

I finally found the timestamp of when aliases were read out to DdH.
I've updated the list with new additions or clarifications in pink. Also thanks to @chicken96 's list.

Full alias list
NSW Police are aware of over 30 aliases linked to RB, nationally and internationally.
Source: Inquest Day 6, 35mins and NAA file

Willy Coppenolle
Willy David Coppenolle
Willy Wouters
Wouters Willy

David Fredy
Fredy David
Ricky David

Frederick David de Hedervary
Frederick Dehedervary (no space after 'de')
Frederick De Hedervaru (ends in U instead of Y)
Frederike De Hevedervary (female spelling)
Francis David de Hedervary

Chaim Frederick David Dehedervary
Chaim de Hedervary
Chaim Frederick David
Chaim David

Richard Lloyd West
Richard Westbury
Richard Lloyd Westbury
Ric West
Ric Richard
Ric Blum

Fernand Nocolas Remakel
Roger Lauzoney
Roger Lazoney

Bernard Dupont (RB claims it’s his friend)
Christopher Dupont
Atilla / Urtilla Dupont

Tony Grecca
Anthony Grech

Christopher Stein
Fleming (last name)
Wilson (last name)
Charles Guyon / Geaton
Gaeton Le Brousko
Frank Melon
Remy Lajoie

Zabdeel Zilly / Zadil Zwilling
Guy de Vio / de Veo
Phillipe Dent / Yeleek Dint

 

[Estelle]

or maybe she wasn't trustworthy ( or too trustworthy) to be left in Australia. I still cant figure if she is a bit challenged, and maybe couldn't be left alone for that amount of time ?

Many parents wouldn't leave a young adult at home alone until they are at least 21yo. I have an idea that they were older parents (as it was her father's second marriage) when they had DdH so as she was the youngest, she may have been spoilt and didn't know how to cook or clean, etc.

 

[Eyespywithmylittleeye]

I finally found the timestamp of when aliases were read out to DdH.
I've updated the list with new additions or clarifications in pink. Also thanks to @chicken96 's list.

Full alias list
NSW Police are aware of over 30 aliases linked to RB, nationally and internationally.
Source: Inquest Day 6, 35mins and NAA file

Willy Coppenolle
Willy David Coppenolle
Willy Wouters
Wouters Willy

David Fredy
Fredy David
Ricky David

Frederick David de Hedervary
Frederick Dehedervary (no space after 'de')
Frederick De Hedervaru (ends in U instead of Y)
Frederike De Hevedervary (female spelling)
Francis David de Hedervary

Chaim Frederick David Dehedervary
Chaim de Hedervary
Chaim Frederick David
Chaim David

Richard Lloyd West
Richard Westbury
Richard Lloyd Westbury
Ric West
Ric Richard
Ric Blum

Fernand Nocolas Remakel
Roger Lauzoney
Roger Lazoney

Bernard Dupont (RB claims it’s his friend)
Christopher Dupont
Atilla / Urtilla Dupont

Tony Grecca
Anthony Grech

Christopher Stein
Fleming (last name)
Wilson (last name)
Charles Guyon / Geaton
Gaeton Le Brousko
Frank Melon
Remy Lajoie

Zabdeel Zilly / Zadil Zwilling
Guy de Vio / de Veo
Phillipe Dent / Yeleek Dint

I have Rich Richard not Ric

 

[Liselle]

@Peralta Hahaha!! So many names to remember!! But RB couldn’t remember his first born children's names!

 

[BonnieB]

Now to compile a spreadsheet of known passports, drivers licenses, businesses, scams and arrests of each name[/QUOTE]

 

[Roseberry]

I'm also reminded that he used "Frederike De Hevedervary" which is the female spelling of Frederick.

No, I personally don't recall cash payments between 2001-04.

I suspect the Trenwest stint was not a legitimate way to make a living, but rather a way to syphon money from customers. Paraphrasing what a sleuth said a while ago, be vary careful when purchasing timeshares. Have a proper lawyer go through the contract!

The extraordinary use of the feminine, and the Trenwest so close to the Arts centre. Very few coincidences.

 

[Estelle]

The extraordinary use of the feminine, and the Trenwest so close to the Arts centre. Very few coincidences.

I have never taken any interest in the TRENDWEST connection because Itsapuzzle wrote this:

Random .... just did a word search for "Trendwest" on TLV page and it brought up a comment that the Remakel connection at Trendwest was looked into by NSW police and no record was found. (Indebted to TLV for this info) So, it looks like the Trendwest connection is out the door and we're left with the Monsieur Remakel with some connection to Lennox Head.

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[Deleted member 249471]

@Eyespywithmylittleeye , you're right! It's Rich Richard.

Now to compile a spreadsheet of known passports, drivers licenses, businesses, scams and arrests of each name

I don't know when ALL the aliases were used, but here's a start on some of them, mostly the ones used in Australia. Pink = new passport / name change.

Main alias list
1939 – Willy Coppenolle (alleged name at orphanage)
Mar 1969 – Willy Wouters (Belgian passport #1, arr Perth via UK, residency)
Mar 1971 – Fredy David (possible o/s passport, arr Aus on Chusan from UK)
Feb 1976 – Frederick David de Hedervary (Aus passport #2-4, married DW, citizenship)
1976-77 – Roger Lauzoney (possible 0/s passport, ID jail Lux also with FDdH passport)
1985 – Chaim Frederick David Dehedervary (NSW license)
1987 – Richard Lloyd West (Aus passport #5, name change after long absence overseas)
24 Aug 1988 – Fernand Nocolas Remakel (QLD license)
2 Oct 1992 – Fernand Nocolas Remakel (QLD license renewed)
1992 – Richard Westbury (Aus passport #6)
10 Dec 1994 – FN Remakel (Le Courrier rencontre)
17 Jun 1997 – Richard Westbury (dep Aus) (Marion dep 22 Jun)
31 Jul 1997 – Richard Westbury (arr Aus) (Marion arr 2 Aug)
Oct 98-5 Jan 99 – Frederick David De Hedervary (as known by GGB, police served AVO)
1998-99 – Ric West (as known by JO)
Nov 1999 – Rich Richard (Aus passport #7, travel with JO)
May 2002 – Frederick David de Hedervary (Aus passport #8, name change to previous name)
2011 – Willy David Coppenolle (Aus passport #9, CBA bank)
Current – Ric Blum (Aus passport #10, name change possibly when podcast came out)

 

[Deleted member 249471]

Also want to point out that he had a 2011 passport in the name of Willy David Coppenolle which WAS associated with a Commonwealth bank account.
I got that from the inquest. Does anyone have any more details on it?

 

[Roseberry]

@Estelle re Trenwest:

Looked into by the police pre-mid-2021 and no record was found. Wonder what sort of eyes they were looking with at that time.

 

[BonnieB]

Also want to point out that he had a 2011 passport in the name of Willy David Coppenolle which WAS associated with a Commonwealth bank account.
I got that from the inquest. Does anyone have any more details on it?

Yes, that was the vault box, wasn't it? Hmmm?

 

[Deleted member 249471]

I finally found the timestamp of when aliases were read out to DdH.
I've updated the list with new additions or clarifications in pink. Also thanks to @chicken96 's list.

Full alias list
NSW Police are aware of over 30 aliases linked to RB, nationally and internationally.
Source: Inquest Day 6, 35mins and NAA file

Willy Coppenolle
Willy David Coppenolle
Willy Wouters
Wouters Willy

David Fredy
Fredy David
Ricky David

Frederick David de Hedervary
Frederick Dehedervary (no space after 'de')
Frederick De Hedervaru (ends in U instead of Y)
Frederike De Hevedervary (female spelling)
Francis David de Hedervary

Chaim Frederick David Dehedervary
Chaim de Hedervary
Chaim Frederick David
Chaim David

Richard Lloyd West
Richard Westbury
Richard Lloyd Westbury
Ric West
Ric Richard
Ric Blum

Fernand Nocolas Remakel
Roger Lauzoney
Roger Lazoney

Bernard Dupont (RB claims it’s his friend)
Christopher Dupont
Atilla / Urtilla Dupont

Tony Grecca
Anthony Grech

Christopher Stein
Fleming (last name)
Wilson (last name)
Charles Guyon / Geaton
Gaeton Le Brousko
Frank Melon
Remy Lajoie

Zabdeel Zilly / Zadil Zwilling
Guy de Vio / de Veo
Phillipe Dent / Yeleek Dint

So sorry. I just re-listened to inquest, please add to the list:

Ric Richard and Rich Richard
Tony Grech (along with Anthony Grech)
Frederique or Frederike De Hevedervary (female spelling) (both spellings used in Belgium and Europe)

 

[Deleted member 249471]

Yes, that was the vault box, wasn't it? Hmmm?

If that is correct, then this should actually read Willy David Coppenolle:

Sept 2005
FdH pays $285 from joint account to purchase a safe deposit box. It’s a secure draw in the vault at Commonwealth Bank in Sydney’s Martin Place branch, which only he can access (Ep: Inquest Part 8).

Dec 2007
FdH surrenders safe deposit box at Commonwealth Bank Sydney (Ep: Inquest Part 8).

 

[MrsWattle]

Many parents wouldn't leave a young adult at home alone until they are at least 21yo. I have an idea that they were older parents (as it was her father's second marriage) when they had DdH so as she was the youngest, she may have been spoilt and didn't know how to cook or clean, etc.

Or she was a hanging around nearby sleazy King Cross and dabbling in risky behaviour. 70's was King's Cross was full of US soldiers, drugs and crime. The cruise could have been a family getaway. However I do suspect she met Fredy prior to cruise in Sydney. The charming romance scammer Fredy the frog.