Australia Australia - Marion Barter, 51, missing after trip to UK, June 1997 #12

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I am trying to find the thread someone had up about Baron Guy De Wouters but I cant find it sorry but Thank you to the person that put it up a while back - it was this link
Baron Guy De Wouters (8 Harley Gardens Limited) - Director Profile - Endole

Anyways I have been searching this name and found this:
You need to go through ALL the tabs on pages, and read all the pages , including side tabs, to make the connections.
Too much to add on here but I think I have found the racket. IMO.

From that link I googled the Officerevise Limited at the bottom of the page.
Officerevise Limited
8 Harley Gardens Limited - Company Profile - Endole
OFFICEREVISE LIMITED - Free Company Check
8 HARLEY GARDENS LIMITED - Free Company Check
See all tabs

Guy De Wouters director information. Free company director check.

It led me to this page:
ADRIAN JOSEPH MARIA OOMEN , company director check UK
Adrian Joseph Maria Oomen director information. Free company director check.
Merijn Balder Oomen ⇒ Free Company Director Check
Dr Marie Curiestraat 51 5914 Gp Venlo Venlo The Netherlands

Googling address :
Monika Oomen director information. Free company director check.
Zulaikha Oome director information. Free company director check.
MRS Zulaikha Oome works at OJE TRAVEL & TOURS LTD as Secretary.
OJE TRAVEL & TOURS LTD - ILFORD
http://www.checkcompany.co.uk/reportfiled.php?company=13815823&link=MzMyNDU0NjcyMWFkaXF6a2N4
OJE TRAVEL & TOURS LTD - Company Credit Reports, Company Accounts, Director Search Reports
OJE TRAVEL & TOURS LTD - ILFORD
Check all addresses given...

Back to the first link of company above:
Which led me to the "CO WORKER" at bottom of page.
GUY DE WOUTERS , company director check UK

Previous Appointments of Merijn Balder Oomen
MINISTRY OF VISUAL AFFAIRS LTD (dissolved)
Company address: MINISTRY OF VISUAL AFFAIRS LTD
80 SIDNEY STREET, FOLKESTONE, KENT

Google Maps

Merijn Balder Oomen ⇒ Free Company Director Check
Company address: MERLIN WIZART LIMITED
80 SIDNEY STREET, FOLKESTONE, KENT, CT19 6HQ

VIEW Company Documents - go through all tabs

Rafael Armando Ravelo ⇒ Free Company Director Check
Previous Appointments of Rafael Armando Ravelo
MINISTRY OF VISUAL AFFAIRS LTD

SEAGULL LEGAL SERVICES LIMITED. Free business summary taken from official companies house information. Free alerts. Registered as 03300568
READ ALL TABS - All Directors and Secretaries
SEAGULL INTERIM LIMITED - Company Credit Reports, Company Accounts, Director Search Reports

.........on and on and on.

Sent to TLV
Was it the post from the sleuth re the accom that led you down this path? Wondering what started the chain of searches
 
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Hmmm you have raised my attention that’s for sure.

it was actually ceglarski that I thought was the connection to Ik lived at Gosbell st born in Hungary on memory. I thought perhaps a family connect IK’s.

and I recall the Mestdagh find but my brain is blank right now on how I got to Mestdagh and why I thought she was the person IK stayed with. Brain not working today.

Little gymnasium article on Eric
GYM TRAINING AT MTP - Tom Price - Hamersley News (Perth, WA : 1969 - 1987) - 1 Jan 1984
@Eyespywithmylittleeye you found the Mestdagh name on the IK passenger card, your post 27Mar I think.
 
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@mishy66 I see the connections of the virtual office addresses in UK and the possible 'Directors for hire' to create companies for a set up fee, but I will have to wait for someone to spell it out to see the big racket.
 
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This is my first post but am an avid follower of WSleuths. I am fascinated with this case since listening to TLV podcast and following the many threads on WS. I so hope that her family will eventually find out what has happened to MB. They deserve to know.
I am continually taken back to a piece I read online from a book titled "The Secret War Against Dope" (Chapter 6). In June, 1968 a Belguim national by the name of WW (a Restaurateur) arrives from France in US and is surveilled by US Customs after landing by plane in Denver. He is a drug courier and is seen putting his bag (containing heroin) into a public locker at the airport. He is subsequently arrested and found to be part of a "French Connection" drug trafficking group which transferred proceeds through financial institution "First Handover" to a Swiss businessman for laundering. After being caught, he comes clean and in 1969 tells all about the operation resulting in numerous arrests and he seems to be able to "begin a new life".

IMO, this could be our Mr AKA. He could use his many companies to launder his share of drug proceeds. It could explain why he was in Switzerland when he claimed he met MB in late 1960's. With the arrest in US, this delays WW & IK's plan to travel to Australia by a few months. Once in Australia, maybe he realises that if he stays with the name WW, then he is in danger from the traffickers who are trying to track him down. He has to change his name and he travels back to Europe and IW travels back as well. He now has to change his name. He chooses MJR and whether there is a marriage is debatable, but IW returns as IR, married to MJR. Is this the last time the name WW is used by him? I think so. If he is a wanted man by the drug syndicate, then that would explain the number of times he & his wife moved about. The subsequent name changes in Australia then was used to facilitate trying to con vulnerable women and knows how to use personal lockers at airports for ill gotten gains.

This newspaper link has been posted before. Is it possible they fudged his age?, He bribed someone or did a deal?
Have any sleuths ever found another WW with criminal record?

U.S. Gets Heroin Suspect From Swiss (Published 1971)
 
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This newspaper link has been posted before. Is it possible they fudged his age?, He bribed someone or did a deal?
Have any sleuths ever found another WW with criminal record?

U.S. Gets Heroin Suspect From Swiss (Published 1971)
There are quite a few candidates for this WW in the age range quoted in the newspaper but nearly all from Dutch heritage. I can't see Wonka being in this big deal in 1971 at the same time he was committing such small scale crimes in Europe.
 
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Great find Brown Alleycat!!

Welcome to the thread!


I am continually taken back to a piece I read online from a book titled "The Secret War Against Dope" (Chapter 6). In June, 1968 a Belguim national by the name of WW (a Restaurateur) arrives from France in US and is surveilled by US Customs after landing by plane in Denver. He is a drug courier and is seen putting his bag (containing heroin) into a public locker at the airport. He is subsequently arrested and found to be part of a "French Connection" drug trafficking group which transferred proceeds through financial institution "First Handover" to a Swiss businessman for laundering. After being caught, he comes clean and in 1969 tells all about the operation resulting in numerous arrests and he seems to be able to "begin a new life".
 
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Hmmm you have raised my attention that’s for sure.

it was actually ceglarski that I thought was the connection to Ik lived at Gosbell st born in Hungary on memory. I thought perhaps a family connect IK’s.

and I recall the Mestdagh find but my brain is blank right now on how I got to Mestdagh and why I thought she was the person IK stayed with. Brain not working today.

I get it totally.
SO difficult trying to sift through all the arms of this octopus.

Ceglarski and Lehinger lived at the same address BUT Mestdagh was the person listed on IK card.


Here is IK Passenger card where they BOTH stayed after arriving in 1969
 

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I get it totally.
SO difficult trying to sift through all the arms of this octopus.

Ceglarski and Lehinger lived at the same address BUT Mestdagh was the person listed on IK card.


Here is IK Passenger card where they BOTH stayed after arriving in 1969
My brain just didn’t work yesterday! Haha
 
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I get it totally.
SO difficult trying to sift through all the arms of this octopus.

Ceglarski and Lehinger lived at the same address BUT Mestdagh was the person listed on IK card.


Here is IK Passenger card where they BOTH stayed after arriving in 1969
And also Gosbell street, I knew the address was also something to do with mestdagh
 
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@mishy66 I see the connections of the virtual office addresses in UK and the possible 'Directors for hire' to create companies for a set up fee, but I will have to wait for someone to spell it out to see the big racket.
Yeah I’m not seeing it either other than what you’ve mentioned. The wouters isn’t enough of a connection so there’s got to be more
 
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This is my first post but am an avid follower of WSleuths. I am fascinated with this case since listening to TLV podcast and following the many threads on WS. I so hope that her family will eventually find out what has happened to MB. They deserve to know.
I am continually taken back to a piece I read online from a book titled "The Secret War Against Dope" (Chapter 6). In June, 1968 a Belguim national by the name of WW (a Restaurateur) arrives from France in US and is surveilled by US Customs after landing by plane in Denver. He is a drug courier and is seen putting his bag (containing heroin) into a public locker at the airport. He is subsequently arrested and found to be part of a "French Connection" drug trafficking group which transferred proceeds through financial institution "First Handover" to a Swiss businessman for laundering. After being caught, he comes clean and in 1969 tells all about the operation resulting in numerous arrests and he seems to be able to "begin a new life".

IMO, this could be our Mr AKA. He could use his many companies to launder his share of drug proceeds. It could explain why he was in Switzerland when he claimed he met MB in late 1960's. With the arrest in US, this delays WW & IK's plan to travel to Australia by a few months. Once in Australia, maybe he realises that if he stays with the name WW, then he is in danger from the traffickers who are trying to track him down. He has to change his name and he travels back to Europe and IW travels back as well. He now has to change his name. He chooses MJR and whether there is a marriage is debatable, but IW returns as IR, married to MJR. Is this the last time the name WW is used by him? I think so. If he is a wanted man by the drug syndicate, then that would explain the number of times he & his wife moved about. The subsequent name changes in Australia then was used to facilitate trying to con vulnerable women and knows how to use personal lockers at airports for ill gotten gains.


This is quite interesting @Brown Alleycat as it takes me back to the connections to
Le Courrier Australien and Jean-Pierre Sourdin, with one of his childrens 'friends' with a person caught up in a drug bust 2010.

It is all making so much sense as to why it is there is SO MUCH secrecy surrounding all activities going on since 1968. All the 'directors' in companies moving about, liquidating businesses and starting up new ones in new names every year, as you say laundering money from drugs, the fake names but same general areas, so much alias traveling, with said alias names tied to 'decent dignitaries of a time gone by' ....deflecting, the constant house moves, all the lies and inability to remember important names from pre 1968 etc etc.

I think another sleuth also posted up this possibility a while back.
Crime in America--heroin Importation, Distribution, Packaging, and Paraphernalia

and the link to the 2010 arrest I mentioned...
Five charged over 50kg cocaine seizure

 
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Yeah I’m not seeing it either other than what you’ve mentioned. The wouters isn’t enough of a connection so there’s got to be more
pretty sure it is all being talked about this morning....;)
 
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pretty sure it is all being talked about this morning....;)
Proof that’s the problem. I get where you’re coming from but names aren’t enough.

Edit: Where is Wonkas link to these companies ? Or people? Aside from area of UK -

I want there to be something believe me I do but atm I don’t see it other than a maybe involved in something like this… o_O
 
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This is quite interesting @Brown Alleycat as it takes me back to the connections to
Le Courrier Australien and Jean-Pierre Sourdin, with one of his childrens 'friends' with a person caught up in a drug bust 2010.

It is all making so much sense as to why it is there is SO MUCH secrecy surrounding all activities going on since 1968. All the 'directors' in companies moving about, liquidating businesses and starting up new ones in new names every year, as you say laundering money from drugs, the fake names but same general areas, so much alias traveling, with said alias names tied to 'decent dignitaries of a time gone by' ....deflecting, the constant house moves, all the lies and inability to remember important names from pre 1968 etc etc.

I think another sleuth also posted up this possibility a while back.
Crime in America--heroin Importation, Distribution, Packaging, and Paraphernalia

and the link to the 2010 arrest I mentioned...
Five charged over 50kg cocaine seizure
Yes Mishy it certainly could explain the secrecy around that 1968/1969/1970 time. He certainly stopped using the name WW after leaving Australia in 1970. If this is him, IK would probably have been used as a way of gaining residency. The drug courier WW would certainly have been in fear of his life for dobbing in some of the bigger names in the drug syndicate from Europe and South America. Australia would have seemed life a safe haven, with trips back to Europe afterwards using alias names.
However, the age of drug courier WW is stated as 54 in 1968. If Mr AKA was born in 1939, he would have been 29. It would be helpful to find more information on this and will keep looking. It may well be another WW but (apart from that age) I find it could fit into the time frame if the US government were collaborating with ASIO maybe in return for his co-operation.
 
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Yes Mishy it certainly could explain the secrecy around that 1968/1969/1970 time. He certainly stopped using the name WW after leaving Australia in 1970. If this is him, IK would probably have been used as a way of gaining residency. The drug courier WW would certainly have been in fear of his life for dobbing in some of the bigger names in the drug syndicate from Europe and South America. Australia would have seemed life a safe haven, with trips back to Europe afterwards using alias names.
However, the age of drug courier WW is stated as 54 in 1968. If Mr AKA was born in 1939, he would have been 29. It would be helpful to find more information on this and will keep looking. It may well be another WW but (apart from that age) I find it could fit into the time frame if the US government were collaborating with ASIO maybe in return for his co-operation.
According to Wiki there’s over 15,000 people named wouters in just Belgium.. searching Willy brings up so many variations (Willy first name, second name etc) I think the court case was in 71? And the initial incident in Dallas in 68… I really don’t think this WW is Wonka..

heres another reference about it ‘the French connection’ and drug trade keep scrolling down you will find another mention of WW that links to a book

"THE FRENCH CONNECTION" REVISITED ( NOV 2020 )
 
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According to Wiki there’s over 15,000 people named wouters in just Belgium.. searching Willy brings up so many variations (Willy first name, second name etc) I think the court case was in 71? And the initial incident in Dallas in 68… I really don’t think this WW is Wonka..

heres another reference about it ‘the French connection’ and drug trade keep scrolling down you will find another mention of WW that links to a book

"THE FRENCH CONNECTION" REVISITED ( NOV 2020 )
I've got no idea of course, but at this point I'd be more inclined to think along the lines of a Goran Markovic type personality - I could be wrong though.
Serial conman out of answers in dramatic ambush with victims.
 
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