Australia Australia - Marion Barter, 51, missing after trip to UK, June 1997 #13

[MrsWattle]

He seemed quite in a panic to say that "he only liked Flemish painters"

He might have also said "Rubens" (Flemish Baroque artist)

 

[gymtonic]

Anyone else also wonder why AKA voluntarily said he had never travelled on the Orient Express but had once seen it at a railway station in Brussels when he was young? As far as I know the OE has never used Brussels on its route even historically.

 

[gymtonic]

It actually says "registration expiry date"

I took that to mean permit expiry date because there is no plate listed.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Maybe it's like those moments in history.

He can't bring himself to say he's not even seen the famous train.

I was actually surprised he didn't say he'd been on it.

Anyone else also wonder why AKA voluntarily said he had never travelled on the Orient Express but had once seen it at a railway station in Brussels when he was young? As far as I know the OE has never used Brussels on its route even historically.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

I thought I heard him say the word bacchanalia.
Then I figured it was banquet.
I even thought he was going the "agent" route again.

He certainly doesn't have respect for women and I think he thought he was something of a catch, a cut above the women who "threw" themselves at him.

 

[BonnieB]

He seemed quite in a panic to say that "he only liked Flemish painters"

Mmmm, a 14th century Flemish painting on wood that was too big to fit in a safety envelope huh? Takes me back to the Galerie De Jonckheere, an art gallery specialising in the study and sale of 15th to 17th century Flemish paintings!!! I believe he had some dealings with that Gallery albeit fraudulent!

 

[sunnybree]

How on earth can they finish this up in two days?

 

[F.Knab]

hey guys! watched the hearing during work so missed a lot and wanted to say thanks for posters in the thread giving updates.

 

[KeenSleuth17]

How on earth can they finish this up in two days?

I Duno! Because I imagine they’ll still have at least 1 more day of just AC questioning RB. Then the final day I imagine Mr Smith and Ms Burke will take the floor with RB however that even won’t provide them enough time. Then I imagine with the new evidence tendered in volume 12 and in particular RB’s offspring’s statements to* police probably they will be called too?? I don’t think this will wrap up in 3 days, my prediction it will be further extended but hopefully not for 3-4 months again

*or interview with (edited)

 

[gymtonic]

Also FYI for those keeping geographical track. The centre of the French perfume capital (mentioned where AKA claimed to be during the 40 days in Europe in 1997), is Grasse, also on the the French Rivieria along with Palavas les Flots and Nice.

 

[Eyespywithmylittleeye]

Do you mean the unregistered Toyota Corona? You remember don't you? The one he testified they drove...a "little Toyota".
The one at the bottom of screen with no details except that the rego ran out on 25/9/98! Edit date

I’m going back to Mrs testimony. They had 1 car then he got the Magna.. ‘for their daughter’ so did that mean they had 2 cars? Originally we had thought the car was sold off after 3 months so we were ‘suss’ on the Magna.. what I mean now is.. I’m suss on the original car they had. Did they keep that car? Or did they sell that around the time the Magna was purchased

 

[KeenSleuth17]

Also FYI for those keeping geographical track. The centre of the French perfume capital (mentioned where AKA claimed to be during the 40 days in Europe in 1997), is Grasse, also on the the French Rivieria along with Palavas les Flots and Nice.

Except that even his incoming passenger card contradicts this - country he spent most time abroad “Belgium”. ‘Oh no I didn’t go there at all but just put Belgium anyway’. As you do….

 

[Eyespywithmylittleeye]

Yes but THAT is the fascinating thing about it.
Dianne lied under oath that they bought that car for MdeH to use, even though M was only 16 at the time. and sold that car on 30 Nov 1997 due to mechanical issues, having had it for only 3 months.

There is no doubt the car was transferred over to family but why would it be that DdeH says, under oath, they only had it for 3 months.

This isnt the first time she had told significant lies and IMO it isnt because she is confused, dimwitted or not involved.
Why not say in the first place they had the car for all that time? Strange thing to lie about if there is nothing to hide.

I think she was coached on that answer and he has changed the story today like he did with a lot of his own statements - JMO

 

[gymtonic]

I’m going back to Mrs testimony. They had 1 car then he got the Magna.. ‘for their daughter’ so did that mean they had 2 cars? Originally we had thought the car was sold off after 3 months so we were ‘suss’ on the Magna.. what I mean now is.. I’m suss on the original car they had. Did they keep that car? Or did they sell that around the time the Magna was purchased

OK...only going by what was on the sheet (which only shows vehicles registered to AKA) shown in evidence and filling in gaps...The Toyota Corona never shows as registered (on road able to be be driven type of registered ie with plates) to AKA but shows that he held an unregistered vehicle permit for it (permit used for short term transport of unregistered vehicles for e.g. taking cars across state borders for moving or sales...and there are other reasons possible). However, It could have been registered to DdH in 1997, prior to being issued an unregistered vehicle permit? The Mitsubishi Magna was registered to AKA until it was transferred to DdH then Son (or directly to son?). So they could have had 2 cars registered to different family members (Toyota and Magna) in 1997??

 

[Eyespywithmylittleeye]

OK...only going by what was on the sheet (which only shows vehicles registered to AKA) shown in evidence and filling in gaps...The Toyota Corona never shows as registered (on road able to be be driven type of registered ie with plates) to AKA but shows that he held an unregistered vehicle permit for it (permit used for short term transport of unregistered vehicles for e.g. taking cars across state borders for moving or sales...and there are other reasons possible). However, It could have been registered to DdH in 1997, prior to being issued an unregistered vehicle permit? The Mitsubishi Magna was registered to AKA until it was transferred to DdH then Son (or directly to son?). So they could have had 2 cars registered to different family members (Toyota and Magna) in 1997??

Gotcha, now I understand

 

[KeenSleuth17]

Also can we talk about how on earth their marriage has survived or is surviving this?! If he were my husbo I woulda kicked him to the curb loooong ago. And if I hadn’t I definitely would have after February!
…unless of course she forms a vital part of the “duo”…

 

[BonnieB]

OK...only going by what was on the sheet (which only shows vehicles registered to AKA) shown in evidence and filling in gaps...The Toyota Corona never shows as registered (on road able to be be driven type of registered ie with plates) to AKA but shows that he held an unregistered vehicle permit for it (permit used for short term transport of unregistered vehicles for e.g. taking cars across state borders for moving or sales...and there are other reasons possible). However, It could have been registered to DdH in 1997, prior to being issued an unregistered vehicle permit? The Mitsubishi Magna was registered to AKA until it was transferred to DdH then Son (or directly to son?). So they could have had 2 cars registered to different family members (Toyota and Magna) in 1997??

If we take any of his testimony as having any truth, he says:
1. We never had 2 cars at once, indicating the Toyota was no longer being used or in their possession.
2. His daughter didn't have any car until 1999 or 2000
That just leaves his son who may have been using it from September 97 until the rego lapsed in Sept 98. After that time a vehicle permit would be required to move/drive the car.

 

[Estelle]

Also FYI for those keeping geographical track. The centre of the French perfume capital (mentioned where AKA claimed to be during the 40 days in Europe in 1997), is Grasse, also on the the French Rivieria along with Palavas les Flots and Nice.

Grasse is a long way from Montpelier.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

‘A heartbreaking mystery’: Reward increased to $500,000 over teacher’s 1997 disappearance



I think it's behind a paywall.


Major development in mystery of missing mother of two


https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/n...ws-story/6c326bbf44c70db5607d2f998ee8a76f?amp

Behind paywall. Mentions a slip by RB.

 

[Bibno]

I thought I heard him say the word bacchanalia.
Then I figured it was banquet.
I even thought he was going the "agent" route again.

He certainly doesn't have respect for women and I think he thought he was something of a catch, a cut above the women who "threw" themselves at him.

I'm sure I heard bacchanalian too.

He is so AWFUL and I am so ANGRY, why does he think that suggesting MB liked men will somehow justify his behaviour? I think that's why he is taking any opportunity to mention this, but it just makes him look like an idiot.