Australia Australia - Marion Barter, 51, missing after trip to UK, June 1997 #14

[KiwiNZ]

I’m presuming it’s the one with nothing. No website just an email not even any followers or likes

I thought maybe the WVC one but its clearly not RB, you can tell by the comments, that this person stole a FB page from someone else called WVC.

I think our time is been wasted TBH lol

 

[BonnieB]

I thought maybe the WVC one but its clearly not RB, you can tell by the comments, that this person stole a FB page from someone else called WVC.

I think our time is been wasted TBH lol

I agree, there are 3 WVC fb pages belonging to the same person and not connected to RB at all as far as I can determine. I'm sure RB does have an internet presence but I haven't found it yet.

 

[Eyespywithmylittleeye]

I thought maybe the WVC one but its clearly not RB, you can tell by the comments, that this person stole a FB page from someone else called WVC.

I think our time is been wasted TBH lol

Yep agree nothing at all to suggest this is him at all. And personally I don’t believe he’d use that name online

 

[Martinie]

T

Grafton maybe ?

Yep. Grafton, sorry.

 

[John Bird]

@BonnieB @Eyespywithmylittleeye During the CI, RB was asked if he attended his mother’s funeral in Belgium? His reply, if I remember correctly, went something like this, he "was not told of her death until three days after, so it was too late to attend". This could mean that his mother was Jewish and by tradition, the burial would have taken place within 24 hours of death. Also, I doubt VERY much that his family were in contact with him at all, let alone him visiting them every time he travelled to Europe. With all their wealth (remembering the inheritance!) why didn't they ever visit him in Australia?

Wasn't his original name Willy Wouters? (edit: it was William Coppenolle apparently) It would be very unusual if he were from a Jewish family with such a name (Wouters/Coppenolle). More likely (non-practising) Christian family origins.

 

[John Bird]

probably a stupid question - but when he say's Belgian pension, I assume he doesn't mean an old age pension in the 90's ?? was it also an invalid pension ? associated with his "service" ?

I would assume the Aus government would not pay him an invalid payment if they knew he was already receiving one from another source ?

pension
[ˈpɛnʃ(ə)n]

NOUN

1. a regular payment made by the state to people of or above the official retirement age and to some widows and disabled people.

As he was still young, in his 30s I think, when he had the riding accident, the so-called pension is likely a monthly welfare allowance for the disabled.

 

[John Bird]

If TLV had refined their approach of the Real FR they may have been able to ask him if these were his :-/ IMO.

I agree I don't see the benefit unless he is actually operating as FR in Europe, bank accounts and all.

Is it possible he can apply for name changes in Belgium just as he has in Aus and have an EU passport in FR and other names ?

Highly unlikely. Changing names is complicated and often requires court approval. I was flabbergasted how easy this is in Australia.

 

[mishy66]

Wasn't his original name Willy Wouters? It would be very unusual if he were from a Jewish family with such a name. More likely (non-practising) Christian family origins.

His name Willy Wouters cant be confirmed to be his 'real' name.
Given he used that name when he was 30 and using aliases prior to coming out to Aust I doubt that is his real name - JMO

 

[mishy66]

I posted these a few months ago but wondering if anyone found anything more to AKA

TRANSFERT D'EMPLOYEUR​

2008

Employer Consultation

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2009

Employer Consultation

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2010

Employer Consultation

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CUISINES BLUM SPRL​

Rue Henri Elsen 11 6700 Arlon - on the railway line...

Blum Frères Sprl, Furniture Store at Arlon, Luxembourg

Blum Frères Sprl is a furniture store (call: +32 63 22 40 51), located at: Rue Henri Elsen 11, 6700 Heinsch (Arlon), Belgium.

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https://www.bizique.be/blum-fr%C3%A8res-sprl_2Z-063-22-40-51

Rue Henri Elsen 11 · Rue Henri Elsen 11, 6700 Arlon, Belgium

Rue Henri Elsen 11, 6700 Arlon, Belgium

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Another business on the railway line...

Blum/Freddy - Arlon, WLX

BLUM/FREDDY in Arlon, reviews by real people. Yelp is a fun and easy way to find, recommend and talk about what’s great and not so great in Arlon and beyond.

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Faillite Cuisines Blum Sprl à Arlon (407217678) - FaillissementsDossier.be

Cuisines Blum Sprl agissant sous le nom de Cuisines Bf située à Arlon (Luxemburg) a été déclarée en liquidation judiciaire par par le tribunal de Aarlen. En tant que liquidateur judiciaire est désigné Baudine Cecile. Le numéro d'entreprise est le 407217678. L'activité (principale) de Cuisines...

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Secteur d'activité général
Industrie manufacturière
Secteur d'activité primaire
Fabrication de meubles


Employees: 40502

Blum Frères Sprl,063-22 40 51 - Luxembourg Business

Blum Frères Sprl is a company at Luxembourg,Phone is 063-22 40 51,Find more Blum Frères Sprl detailed information on this page.

lux.soopage.com

Heinsch, rue Henri-Elsen 13 6700 Arlon

Consult

consult.cbso.nbb.be

go to name then add : blum 6700

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Frédéric Blum - Luxembourg

Director reports about Frédéric Blum in 1 company and no less than 1 appointment in Luxembourg (Redange)

www.datocapital.lu

 

[mishy66]

Different day of birth and birthplace to the Freddy we know but the names

Décès de Monsieur Freddy DAVID (01-09-08), Annonce nécrologique

Monsieur Freddy DAVID. Annonce nécrologique. enaos.net, un lieu où nous pouvons rendre hommage a ceux que nous avons aimés et respectés. Avis de décès, annonces nécrologiques pratiques, espaces condoléances interactifs, albums de vie, espaces mémoires personnelles, etc.

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[BonnieB]

Really?? All I see is a ship.

 

[BonnieB]

For those of us scratching our heads about Renov Pubs and it's use, I'm wondering if it was the mother company for phoenix activity.
Buy up a small business that's heavily in debt
Transfer its assets to the mother company
Appoint dummy directors
Company goes into bankruptcy with no assets (creditors don't get paid)
Re-open company (slight name change) with it's transferred assets & no debts
Operate for short time and sell at a large profit.

 

[MrsEmmaPeel]

Hey @BonnieB -- I've said this before and I'll say it again. . . if RB were competent enough to manage corporate fraud as you've described, he probably wouldn't have wasted his time nickel-and-dime-ing vulnerable women. There was so much time and energy spent on the vulnerable women, and the rewards were fairly minor or none at all. That says to me: petty criminal. Everything about RB reeks of small-time fraudster. But then, what do I know?

It's sad to see this thread peter out. It feels like the energy has died. I hate to be negative (which my sister says I am). I want to believe Sally will win in the end. I pray things are happening out there somewhere in Australia, England, with the authorities hard at work. . . .

 

[BonnieB]

Hey @BonnieB -- I've said this before and I'll say it again. . . if RB were competent enough to manage corporate fraud as you've described, he probably wouldn't have wasted his time nickel-and-dime-ing vulnerable women. There was so much time and energy spent on the vulnerable women, and the rewards were fairly minor or none at all. That says to me: petty criminal. Everything about RB reeks of small-time fraudster. But then, what do I know?

It's sad to see this thread peter out. It feels like the energy has died. I hate to be negative (which my sister says I am). I want to believe Sally will win in the end. I pray things are happening out there somewhere in Australia, England, with the authorities hard at work. . . .

I agree RB was/is an opportunist, small-time con-man. Although, as Renov was set up in 1968 and is continually renewed, it definitely has a use. Why would it continue to this day as a registered business?
There would have been many other frauds involving coins, antiques, paintings, cheques etc. and I think the women cons were just a sideline initially, probably for the thrill of manipulation, sex and opportunistic thefts. Then as his other swindles and frauds became increasingly more difficult due to improved technology, he honed in on the vulnerable women targets; ones with assets worth stealing. I'm sure there are many other victims overseas; MB would not have been his first and perhaps she wasn't the only one who mysteriously disappeared. You say...

There was so much time and energy spent on the vulnerable women, and the rewards were fairly minor or none at all. That says to me: petty criminal.

Well, I wouldn't say $160,000 was a minor profit in 1997 (equivalent to about $290,000 today) or $9,000 per week during his 8 month scam. GGB netted him $30,000 for about 3 weeks effort. JO was a dismal failure and actually cost him money but even the best con-men don't win every time.
The infamous Gilbert Chikli is said to have attempted to scam 150 victims with a hit rate of just 3; mind you, those 3 scored him millions.
So, I keep an open mind on Mr. AKA and his capabilities. I do believe he is capable of disposing of a threat and doing so successfully which makes him a very dangerous man; one not to be underestimated. IMO

 

[Lord Peter Flimsy]

Hey @BonnieB -- I've said this before and I'll say it again. . . if RB were competent enough to manage corporate fraud as you've described, he probably wouldn't have wasted his time nickel-and-dime-ing vulnerable women. There was so much time and energy spent on the vulnerable women, and the rewards were fairly minor or none at all. That says to me: petty criminal. Everything about RB reeks of small-time fraudster. But then, what do I know?

It's sad to see this thread peter out. It feels like the energy has died. I hate to be negative (which my sister says I am). I want to believe Sally will win in the end. I pray things are happening out there somewhere in Australia, England, with the authorities hard at work. . . .

Rest assured that although Lord Peter is not posting much he is still investigating some of the claims made at the inquests.

 

[Nnbee]

I wonder if TLV team are still publishing the episode that has the new interview with MC ?

 

[mishy66]

Hey

It's sad to see this thread peter out. It feels like the energy has died. I hate to be negative (which my sister says I am). I want to believe Sally will win in the end. I pray things are happening out there somewhere in Australia, England, with the authorities hard at work. . . .
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I so so agree.

The thread needs a boost of energy just to keep the light on for Marion!

I have heard that the case has had very little publicity in the UK and that is so disappointing. There could potentially be dozens of women out there who have met AKA and have no idea about what he has done here in Australia.

We need to keep the light on for Marion!

Inject some energy back into this thread!

 

[mishy66]

I wonder if TLV team are still publishing the episode that has the new interview with MC ?

Yes and the other snippets that were mentioned on the last episode.
Allowing the podcast to die out can be detrimental to the publics interest!
The whole case needs to be revisited and kept in the public eye.

 

[mishy66]

Does anyone think Blum owns the whole building here and not just one apartment/shop/flat ......which is why he still has the Renov Pubs business going after all these years...?

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[BonnieB]

Great minds work in the same direction Mishy lol,
Just re-checking some old notes re

14/4/94 Business regd in name of SANSONE DAVID
and somehow it led me to (can't remember how doh!)

https://www.dnb.com/business-directory/company-profiles.nakajima.ea22278a4ef9098dfc4d742881faccb5.html

Could this be connected to the JL cheap flights??

Check out all the names @mishy66 !!