Australia Australia - Marion Barter, 51, missing after trip to UK, June 1997 #9

[StarrChance]

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pages 3176 - 3178

Great find,
so left 23/10/1970?
Arrived Fremantle Perth 1/3/1971

 

[brjakj]

Wonder if we could find one for FdH in the same series?

Ok so there is no record under FdH or WW

 

[Deleted member 83851]

Brilliant work @Jamaha

 

[Deleted member 249471]

Thanks so much @Jamaha I had a closer look at the arrival card:

Diane Walker (pg 3117) was on Chusan from Southampton
Arrived in Aus between Jan-Jun 1971
DOB: 16 April 1951
Address in Aus: 23 Vacluse Rd, Vacluse, NSW
She'd been away from Aus for 1 year and 2 months (hmmm, maybe she met him in England?)
She first claimed her nationality was British, then crossed it out and wrote Australian.

I searched all his aliases, haven't found him yet. I'll post all the links shortly.

 

[gymtonic]

I dont think anyone said the brother came to Australia??? Just that IK had a brother.

but interestingly the brother is not listed on the family relocation from Hungary to Belgium.

 

[mishy66]

I found him
https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/NAAMedia/ShowImage.aspx?B=30050228&S=621&T=P&R=0

 

[gymtonic]

Thanks so much @Jamaha I had a closer look at the arrival card:

Diane Walker (pg 3117) was on Chusan from Southampton
Arrived in Aus between Jan-Jun 1971
DOB: 16 April 1951
Address in Aus: 23 Vacluse Rd, Vacluse, NSW
She'd been away from Aus for 1 year and 2 months (hmmm, maybe she met him in England?)
She first claimed her nationality was British, then crossed it out and wrote Australian.

I searched all his aliases, haven't found him yet. I'll post all the links shortly.

WW was arrested in Rouen, France on 23 Jun 1971! and was sentenced to 4 years prison in December 1971 for fraud and using false documents.
I have done a timeline and found a number of holes!
EDIT: I thought this was meaning that the SS Chusan arrived in June but I see now that at the inquest RB did say he stayed with DW parents for 5 - 6 weeks and then departed and was arrested and imprisoned. so it is possible.
Also of note WW reports his passport lost in 1970 so this could be connected with another change of name to Fredy David?

 

[Estelle]

Thanks so much @Jamaha I had a closer look at the arrival card:

Diane Walker (pg 3117) was on Chusan from Southampton
Arrived in Aus between Jan-Jun 1971
DOB: 16 April 1951
Address in Aus: 23 Vacluse Rd, Vacluse, NSW
She'd been away from Aus for 1 year and 2 months (hmmm, maybe she met him in England?)
She first claimed her nationality was British, then crossed it out and wrote Australian.

I searched all his aliases, haven't found him yet. I'll post all the links shortly.

I don't understand this. Elmer WAACK-WALKER D was born in 1902.

 

[mishy66]

I don't understand this. Elmer WAACK-WALKER D was born in 1902.

 

[mishy66]

He was under his alias Fredy David

 

[Deleted member 249471]

NAA passenger arrivals n Aus from Jan-Jun 1971, haven't found him under any of his aliases yet. But in case you want to check:

Wouters (pg 607)
de Hedervary (pg 3279)
Lauzoney/Lazoney (pg 3265)
Coppenolle (pg 2127)
David (pg 593)

 

[Eyespywithmylittleeye]

Cordemans et Cie (ENG: Cordemans and Co) at Rue de Francs, 46 was established in Dec 1984 and closed in 2004 according to this CORDEMANS ET Cie SPRL à Etterbeek - 0426.659.844

Yep I know that same address as RB company and IK address

 

[Jamaha]

He was under his alias Fredy David

Wow! I wonder who ‘he’ really is???

 

[Eyespywithmylittleeye]

He was under his alias Fredy David

Wow great find!

 

[Deleted member 249471]

This is getting so interesting! I wonder why he lied? He denied being Fredy David "No, that was my brother", hahaha.

Thanks to @mishy66 , here's the link:

Fredy David (pg 621) was on the Chusan from Southampton
Arrived in Aus between Jan-Jun 1971
Nationality: Belgian
Country of birth: Tournai
DOB: 7 June 1942
Address in Aus: 59 Dolphin Cres, Whale Beach NSW (always lying!)

 

[mishy66]

Wow! I wonder who ‘he’ really is???

I have a theory but I am still working on it. That was why after your post it didnt take long to find him.
Thank you so much!

 

[Estelle]

I found him
https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/NAAMedia/ShowImage.aspx?B=30050228&S=621&T=P&R=0

David Fredy was born in 1942. He gives the address as being at Whale Beach but it is actually at Avalon Beach.

 

[ECR]

He was under his alias Fredy David

Hi
long time reader, first time poster.
Good old Freddy Frog

 

[BonnieB]

He was under his alias Fredy David

And he specifically avoided answering if he'd ever used that name, by saying "that's my brother". Going back to listen to his evidence again. WOW!!

 

[Estelle]

That's Diane Walker probably but why did someone attach the Elmer one?