Australia Australia - Marion Barter - Missing After Trip to UK - June 1997 #16

[MrsWattle]

I'd be checking the gold and silver villages Celuk and Mas. Wonder if he took stolen gold and silver jewellery to be minted into rare coins.

Celuk Village - Bali.com

Celuk Village is actually an area located along the street of Jalan Raya Celuk near Ubud - Sukawati. It is very famous for its silver & gold handicrafts, in particular jewellery, there are many silver & gold galleries lining on both sides of the road.

bali.com

 

[Martinie]

So right next door in Miami is 2 witnesses to the Deheds relationship dynamics and the "disabled" lifestyle they had. "Long walks on the beachfront without wheely walker" evening BBQs and Talk of "minting fake rare coins", receiving mail in other aliases, garage full of printed paraphernalia including seeing photocopies of Bond certificates.
Back then these Neighbours reports them to Police and Centrelink. !!!

Diane DeH has been an enabler, she has full knowledge of the swindling, he probably groomed his wife from a young age because she supported him while he was in Jail in France,
waited for him, had children with him and continued to "work" along side him covering up, moving, and living off his fantasies and tangled web of deceit. But partners in crime. Yes!

When listening to the inquest, the second i heard about the weird transfers and withdrawals, I immediately thought of DDH being involved! Some women don't care if they get cheated on, as long as they're taken care of. Maybe she would turn a blind eye to his comings and goings because he was bringing a ton of money home. I'd also like to see pics of DDH before and after Marion went missing to see if she had changed her hair style/length around that time. She might be way more involved than we thought!

 

[MrsWattle]

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[MrsWattle]

When listening to the inquest, the second i heard about the weird transfers and withdrawals, I immediately thought of DDH being involved! Some women don't care if they get cheated on, as long as they're taken care of. Maybe she would turn a blind eye to his comings and goings because he was bringing a *advertiser censored* ton of money home. I'd also like to see pics of DDH before and after Marion went missing to see if she had changed her hair style/length around that time. She might be way more involved than we thought!

I'd like to see the photo of the lady using Marion's stolen card at the petrol station in September 1996.
Sally said it was a 10 year younger female similar looking to Marion..

 

[MrsWattle]

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[xdfg]

So right next door in Miami is 2 witnesses to the Deheds relationship dynamics and the "disabled" lifestyle they had. "Long walks on the beachfront without wheely walker" evening BBQs and Talk of "minting fake rare coins", receiving mail in other aliases, garage full of printed paraphernalia including seeing photocopies of Bond certificates.
Back then these Neighbours reports them to Police and Centrelink. !!!

Diane DeH has been an enabler, she has full knowledge of the swindling, he probably groomed his wife from a young age because she supported him while he was in Jail in France,
waited for him, had children with him and continued to "work" along side him covering up, moving, and living off his fantasies and tangled web of deceit. But partners in crime. Yes!

I don't intend to defend RB at all, but on behalf of disabled people I just want to say it's not unreasonable to sometimes be capable of a long unaided walk, and another time be completely immobile, as I live with someone who is like this. Walking is a valuble quality of life maintenance tool and should be encouraged, and taking a wheely walker on the beach wouldn't work anyway, so I feel like there is an element of false logic to this evidence.

 

[Martinie]

I'd like to see the photo of the lady using Marion's stolen card at the petrol station in September 1996.
Sally said it was a 10 year younger female similar looking to Marion..

That was the other one I wondering about, too! Thanks for the reminder. Too bad we can't go back that far to any footage...

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Some women don't care if they get cheated on, as long as they're taken care of.

I think it's much more of a grey area than that.

Most women would care very much.

some may have suspicions and are constantly told it's all in the head,
some are worn down in their confidence to the point that they think they can't survive without the man.
Some who do know for sure, have been promised it would never happen again.
Some end up thinking, well it''s me he comes home to and think that means he must love me to do that.
Some think they can't deprive their children of their father. This is old school, remember.

I don't think any woman's reason would be purely for financial reasons.
Most women want love in their lives, even if it's not a storybook love. So they get what they're given.

 

[KiwiNZ]

I don't intend to defend RB at all, but on behalf of disabled people I just want to say it's not unreasonable to sometimes be capable of a long unaided walk, and another time be completely immobile, as I live with someone who is like this. Walking is a valuble quality of life maintenance tool and should be encouraged, and taking a wheely walker on the beach wouldn't work anyway, so I feel like there is an element of false logic to this evidence.

I have an invisible condition (Lupus) so totally get what you're saying, but we are discussing RB and he without any doubt does not require a full-time care giver and hasn't for the past 30 years that he has been milking the system, otherwise he would have needed her on his extensive travels around the world, taking away money and resource for those that are actually disable

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[mishy66]

So right next door in Miami is 2 witnesses to the Deheds relationship dynamics and the "disabled" lifestyle they had. "Long walks on the beachfront without wheely walker" evening BBQs and Talk of "minting fake rare coins", receiving mail in other aliases, garage full of printed paraphernalia including seeing photocopies of Bond certificates.
Back then these Neighbours reports them to Police and Centrelink. !!!

Diane DeH has been an enabler, she has full knowledge of the swindling, he probably groomed his wife from a young age because she supported him while he was in Jail in France,
waited for him, had children with him and continued to "work" along side him covering up, moving, and living off his fantasies and tangled web of deceit. But partners in crime. Yes!

100% !

Today I have been back looking at her testimony and the timelines of both of them throughout the years.

So many things she would have and DID KNOW ABOUT.

Finally people who knew them are speaking up and helping other woman caught up in the web of lies these two lived by!

 

[mishy66]

What school did he go to? Might be able to look it up online?

This isnt Blum

 

[MrsWattle]

100% !

Today I have been back looking at her testimony and the timelines of both of them throughout the years.

So many things she would have and DID KNOW ABOUT.

Finally people who knew them are speaking up and helping other woman caught up in web of lies these two lived by!

His wife must have experienced the Police knocking on their door a few times too.
JO and GGB both getting Apprehended Violence Orders on him.
He threatened Ghislaine too. "HELL to pay if she ever contacts him again"

Revenge, blackmail, denial, blaming the victims. Oh what a drama queen he has been. Horrible experience for women cooned and swindled.

 

[mishy66]

Going back over that last podcast three times now, there is so much to unpack and check dates on.

Well done to that person who emailed TLV crew to share about MdeH and DdeH ' inheritence' windfall of $30 000 each when teenagers - somewhere between 1998 and 1999!

I hope more people like this brave person come forward and nail the SOB


BUT.... Wowee - fasinating those dates

DdeH nee Walker - mother died in 1988 - some 10 YEARS before RB says to his kids, here is your grannys inheritence..... so that can't be the right granny - Blum would have put that through the chinga ling machine at the casino long before 1998 / 99

Then his "the woman I knew as my mother" OR "his Aunt" as told by DdH at inquest - dies in November 2012!

So unless she had a premonition of her death waaayyy back in 1998/ 99 and started distributing her cash to her long lost Grandchildren, that never saw her.....

I would say that the 'inheritence' they recieved from their thieving father was the inheritence someone COMPLETELY unrelated to them, was suppose to get!


MB left her breadcrumbs all along the paths that he forged and slowly but surely this piece of excrement is going to be fully exposed for the criminal he is.

Marion Barter - 1997 - never seen again

 

[mishy66]

His wife must have experienced the Police knocking on their door a few times too.
JO and GGB both getting Apprehended Violence Orders on him.
He threatened Ghislaine too. "HELL to pay if she ever contacts him again"

Revenge, blackmail, denial, blaming the victims. Oh what a drama queen he has been. Horrible experience for women cooned and swindled.

Not to mention she was there when police arrested him and he had his FdeH passport on him -

 

[hoodunnit]

DdeH nee Walker - mother died in 1988 - some 10 YEARS before RB says to his kids, here is your grannys inheritence..... so that can't be the right granny - Blum would have put that through the chinga ling machine at the casino long before 1998 / 99

Then his "the woman I knew as my mother" OR "his Aunt" as told by DdH at inquest - dies in November 2012!

Unlikely, but quite possible; maybe the kids had to be of a certain age before they could receive their inheritance $ - whichever grandparent it came from? Peggy died 1988. DDH would have been 9 and MDH 7 ish.
If we're assuming RB's mum/aunt was MariaC, I have her as passing away in 1990.
So, perhaps they had to be 18/20 before it was handed over.

 

[Martinie]

I think it's much more of a grey area than that.

Most women would care very much.

some may have suspicions and are constantly told it's all in the head,
some are worn down in their confidence to the point that they think they can't survive without the man.
Some who do know for sure, have been promised it would never happen again.
Some end up thinking, well it''s me he comes home to and think that means he must love me to do that.
Some think they can't deprive their children of their father. This is old school, remember.

I don't think any woman's reason would be purely for financial reasons.
Most women want love in their lives, even if it's not a storybook love. So they get what they're given.

I was replying to the fact that she might be involved in it and in that case, she wouldn't care, IF she was involved.

 

[mishy66]

Unlikely, but quite possible; maybe the kids had to be of a certain age before they could receive their inheritance $ - whichever grandparent it came from? Peggy died 1988. DDH would have been 9 and MDH 7 ish.
If we're assuming RB's mum/aunt was MariaC, I have her as passing away in 1990.
So, perhaps they had to be 18/20 before it was handed over.

Ah opps yes! Maria C did die 1990 -
Sorry I was thinking of his stepmothers death (IMO)

Listening to the person who contacted TLV - they were given the money 1998/ 1999 - so teenagers.
MdeH would have been about 18 - using the money for deposit on Unit.

Still sitting with my theory the money was not from any of his family....

 

[Martinie]

This isnt Blum

I didn't say it was... I just suggested they could search for the school and might be able to find an actual pic of him.

 

[hoodunnit]

I didn't say it was... I just suggested they could search for the school and might be able to find an actual pic of him.

There are photos of him at school on here somewhere

 

[mishy66]

is this a pic of a young RB or just a random picture attached to an article ?

Missing teacher's 'secret lover' questioned over disappearance - Opera News

A 'secret lover' of a missing Australian teacher who had been travelling around Kent before she disappeared was questioned by police last year, an inquest heard. Marion Barter vanished after travelling around

www.dailyadvent.com

What school did he go to? Might be able to look it up online?

This persons photo, for some strange reason, is shown with a writeup of Blum.

WS's have found a long time ago, it is not Blum or has anything to do with the case.
It is of a man from the USA who was murdered in the 70s - Donald Rindahl