Australia Australia - Marion Barter - Missing After Trip to UK - June 1997 #16

[KinseyFan]

I will keep searching for the other/s.

Wonder if that’s RBs handwriting

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

Wonder if that’s RBs handwriting

The third one? 'Personal statement'? The handwriting is extremely distinctive (and has much pretentious and deliberate stylising) also the way it leans indicates someone left handed. If this is his writing, he obviously tries to present himself as a visual artist alongside the job title 'photographer' and thinks of himself as something a bit unique and special. I don't suppose he sticks to one style of handwriting but it has a lot of very obvious 'tells' that most people don't do.

 

[Liselle]

Has anyone been able to link the business associated with the phone number 433135 written on the 1976 Lost Passport Report? It is more than likely a Sydney number..

 

[Carovb5]

The third one? 'Personal statement'? The handwriting is extremely distinctive (and has much pretentious and deliberate stylising) also the way it leans indicates someone left handed. If this is his writing, he obviously tries to present himself as a visual artist alongside the job title 'photographer' and thinks of himself as something a bit unique and special. I don't suppose he sticks to one style of handwriting but it has a lot of very obvious 'tells' that most people don't do.

Maybe good to know: up until about 30 years ago left handed Belgian kids were told they couldn’t write left. They had to learn to write right handed. This results in a LOT of left handed people who can write good with both hands. IF RB is left handed and IF he went to school in Belgium, he would allmost certainly be able to write with both hands, which would result in 2 different handwritings.

 

[hoodunnit]

Wonder if that’s RBs handwriting

It's very different to passenger cards, so probably not.

 

[Carovb5]

It's very different to passenger cards, so probably not.

On the blue form: wondering what that circle is above the L in the word Belgique... Almost writing info of the wrong Alias on his form?

 

[mishy66]

On closer inspection, I believe Image 2 is only a government agent checking the citizenship details in 1981. Not FDeH's address in 1981.

Ahhhh yes, thanks @Liselle

So the address is 303 - not 1303 -

 

[mishy66]

The third one? 'Personal statement'? The handwriting is extremely distinctive (and has much pretentious and deliberate stylising) also the way it leans indicates someone left handed. If this is his writing, he obviously tries to present himself as a visual artist alongside the job title 'photographer' and thinks of himself as something a bit unique and special. I don't suppose he sticks to one style of handwriting but it has a lot of very obvious 'tells' that most people don't do.

This is the interview report on his name change in order to recieve his Aust Citz and new passport under FdeH
25 March 1976 – claims urgency due to Father dying OS

28 July 1976 – FDdH and DW depart Aus

 

[KinseyFan]

I was thinking the first document (1st post), titled ‘Aust citizenship record’ or similar

 

[KiwiNZ]

Ahhhh yes, thanks @Liselle

So the address is 303 - not 1303 -

I think it might be 1/303 - or apartment 1 - 303 as i have seen both version but not sure where

https://www.realestate.com.au/property/unit-1-303-old-south-head-rd-bondi-beach-nsw-2026

 

[mishy66]

I did a search and the 1303 is on someone's timeline way back

But these documents do show 303 is the number.

Maybe 1303 was a typo on that timeline?

 

[mishy66]

Sadly, they have certainly aged extremely unkindly since the Bali photos, but maybe it has been the stress of imagining what might be forthcoming.

All part of the act

IMO

 

[TootsieFootsie]

All part of the act

I don't think it's an act.

You may be able to act old and unwell by shuffling along, hunched over and you may fake acting like how you think an old unwell person acts.
Or use makeup like an actor would to make themselves look older and sick, but then somehow I can always tell they're not really that old or unwell and are faking the doddery part.

To me it's their faces really, they look much older than the Bali wedding photos and I don't believe it's due to makeup or the lack of it.
It would be interesting to see their faces before RB realised that the vanishing of Marion was being looked into, and before he realised that one of his past "jobs" might be coming back to haunt him.

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

I believe that the presentation of being old and doddery is definitely an act, most especially DdeH with her 'ermmm... dunno...' / 'can't remember' BS at the inquest. However, people age rapidly in the last third or quarter of their lives, most especially with the hormone changes that are brought about and most of us develop aches, pains, poor memory and everything is genuinely more difficult.

For criminals and narcissists it's a well known fact their manipulation games no longer work as easily, so they tend to calm down in older life. I reckon RB's games had a shelf life too - all that documentation and paper fraud, forgery, and old school identity theft, messing around with banks and credit agencies, is redundant nowadays due to advances in technology.

I do think when answering question in the inquest they would have to be super careful as there's been plenty more people than just Marion so they genuinely may have difficulty recalling one swindle from the other but they can't exactly say that!

JMO MOO

 

[BabeBlues]

Has anyone been able to link the business associated with the phone number 433135 written on the 1976 Lost Passport Report? It is more than likely a Sydney number..

Most likely it could be found at the National Library of Australia although it would be a tedious task, but wouldn't that be interesting to know what business this was! Commercial/industrial directory [microform] : Sydney | National Library of Australia

 

[Liselle]

I think it might be 1/303 - or apartment 1 - 303 as i have seen both version but not sure where

https://www.realestate.com.au/property/unit-1-303-old-south-head-rd-bondi-beach-nsw-2026

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This apartment block was constructed in 1966, so would have been relatively new when occupied by the DeH's. So not too shabby then or now! Photography business and coffee shop assistant must have been lucrative!

 

[hoodunnit]

Ahhhh yes, thanks @Liselle

So the address is 303 - not 1303 -

On Ancestry - electoral role 1977 has them listed at 1/303, then 287 Military Road Dover Heights in 1980. FdeH is apparently "an artist" in '77.

 

[BabeBlues]

On Ancestry - electoral role 1977 has them listed at 1/303, then 287 Military Road Dover Heights in 1980. FdeH is apparently "an artist" in '77.

An artist? They spelt con wrong .....

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

On Ancestry - electoral role 1977 has them listed at 1/303, then 287 Military Road Dover Heights in 1980. FdeH is apparently "an artist" in '77.

I think that is him who used the 'artistic' handwriting on the 'Personal Statement' document up thread as it's far too convoluted to be authentic.

 

[Belleandsebastian]

An artist? They spelt con wrong .....

Interesting when considering the artist in Bali who had one of his names. Hope they are looking into that.