Australia Australia - Marion Barter - Missing After Trip to UK - June 1997 #17

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  • #61
@Carovb5 and anyone else who is familiar with the forests in Belgium, would you say Loppem forest is another option for AKA's grand storytelling about his swine forest / foret de soignes incident ???
 
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After listening to his drivel, and looking at all the dates from those births and marriages of the MC family and then her marrying AW age 26 as per writeup, I thought its a newspaper, they make errors, just as they have in the wedding of the article 'mariages' -
so maybe he wasn't actually 26 marrying a 36 yr old woman with 3 children and "her legs bown off " :rolleyes:

And it has been shown time and again how much he lied at the inquest.

That, and the other theory I had posted a few days ago got me thinking about who this woman is that he seems to have no attachment to - "the person which I bare the name "

I went back to the documents of RC and started looking through the sites of Belgians who lost their lives in the Holocaust. A time that AKA seems to associate himself with. Like using IK for his gains, who herself was a victim of war.

Using a diabolical human tragedy to attach himself to tales he told innocent women as he swindled and scammed them.

He is beyond anything I have ever known. A true psychopath. IMO


I started searching through so many files of women who had lost their lives in the Holocaust and wondered if any of those women were RC fiancee, trying to match places of arrest and dates and if they were resistance fighters like he was.

Then I found one.

Not RC fiancee, that would be a miracle I guess as I have no name to go by, only timing/ vicinity and a few names written on his documents.

But there was a name there Maria /Marie Van Coppenolle that really struck me.

I have spent a few days researching her and her family.
It seems to me that I may have found a golden key - but who knows with this twisted, tangled life he made up.

Maria/ Marie ( different newspapers have her as both) Van Coppenolle was born in 1917, a twin, who's sister Elizabeth along with Marias husband, were resistance fighters for the same army Robert C was part of.

Marias husband Adolf De Mol and her sister Elizabeth were captured and Adolf was executed, while Elizabeth died from weakness - probably starvation in Ravensbrück

You can read about them all here
Attached is an image of Adolf De Mol and Elizabeth Van Coppenolle


On Elizabeths write up Elisabeth Van Coppenolle

With this stumbling block we commemorate Elisabeth ( Betty ) van Coppenolle, born in 1917 ( twin of Maria) as the daughters of Henri ( van Coppenolle It would have to be) and Juliette Goossens, who started operating an Inn and a taxi service on the Statieplein in 1932...

Together with her twin sister Marie-Louise Van Coppenolle, she helped her parents to run this inn.

Then her resident brother-in-law Adolf De Mol joined the resistance group on 1 June 1941 the Belgian Volunteer Legion ( B.V.L. ), she also joined a little later, as did her twin sister Marie-Louise Van Coppenolle.


Maria Van Coppenolle survived the war along with their child Werner De Mol.

There is a bunch of information on them in papers etc etc etc

Oh, and Werner married a woman called Heyvaert......
 

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DAY 7 INQUEST AKA SAYS DESIRE DAVID CAME BACK FROM THE SPANISH WAR

( 17 July 1936 – 1 Apr 1939 ) HE WOULD HAVE BEEN AROUND 30 AND THEN WAS EXECUTED BY THE GERMANS 1943

Well, I would say we can pretty much throw that BS in the cow paddock

Taking advantage of the jewish people yet again IMO


Nearly at the end if you do a search:
The following names have been taken from lists of medical personnel who served with the Republican Forces, kept at the Archivo Generale Militar de Avila, in Spain, supplied to the author by James Carmody. The Nationalities are not known. Also helpful was a privately published memorial book by Prof M. Kremer of Israel, on his uncle, Dr D Tallenberg, kia.

Dr Desire David Thalenberg/Tallenberg – MO129th Brig – POW, executed.
 
  • #65
They've just dropped another post about a lady who got stolen from. Apparently he was her husband's cousin! I bet he wasn't, but who knows?
 
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Here it is.
 
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This version has dropped the paywall:


This small detail jumped out to me: Charlotte is yet another woman who he wanted to go blonde. It's like the Hitchcock movie Vertigo. The hair colour change seems to be a signature move, a test of their passivity, and a sign of his control and leaving his mark. Grotesque.

As compensation for the lost vacation day, he books her the wellness program in the hotel with massages and a hairdresser. "He even chose the color of my hair, I couldn't speak any English," says Charlotte, who is grey-haired now as then, "and then I looked like a canary." Her son recalls, "I didn't recognize my mother at the airport."
 
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Excuse my forgetfulness, but prior to this article, what was the last date that we know of him travelling overseas? I’m sure it was mentioned in the inquest at some point.
 
  • #70
They've just dropped another post about a lady who got stolen from. Apparently he was her husband's cousin! I bet he wasn't, but who knows?
If you search you can find the cousin and IMO there’s a huge family resemblance
 
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After listening to his drivel, and looking at all the dates from those births and marriages of the MC family and then her marrying AW age 26 as per writeup, I thought its a newspaper, they make errors, just as they have in the wedding of the article 'mariages' -
so maybe he wasn't actually 26 marrying a 36 yr old woman with 3 children and "her legs bown off " :rolleyes:

And it has been shown time and again how much he lied at the inquest.

That, and the other theory I had posted a few days ago got me thinking about who this woman is that he seems to have no attachment to - "the person which I bare the name "

I went back to the documents of RC and started looking through the sites of Belgians who lost their lives in the Holocaust. A time that AKA seems to associate himself with. Like using IK for his gains, who herself was a victim of war.

Using a diabolical human tragedy to attach himself to tales he told innocent women as he swindled and scammed them.

He is beyond anything I have ever known. A true psychopath. IMO


I started searching through so many files of women who had lost their lives in the Holocaust and wondered if any of those women were RC fiancee, trying to match places of arrest and dates and if they were resistance fighters like he was.

Then I found one.

Not RC fiancee, that would be a miracle I guess as I have no name to go by, only timing/ vicinity and a few names written on his documents.

But there was a name there Maria /Marie Van Coppenolle that really struck me.

I have spent a few days researching her and her family.
It seems to me that I may have found a golden key - but who knows with this twisted, tangled life he made up.

Maria/ Marie ( different newspapers have her as both) Van Coppenolle was born in 1917, a twin, who's sister Elizabeth along with Marias husband, were resistance fighters for the same army Robert C was part of.

Marias husband Adolf De Mol and her sister Elizabeth were captured and Adolf was executed, while Elizabeth died from weakness - probably starvation in Ravensbrück

You can read about them all here
Attached is an image of Adolf De Mol and Elizabeth Van Coppenolle


On Elizabeths write up Elisabeth Van Coppenolle

With this stumbling block we commemorate Elisabeth ( Betty ) van Coppenolle, born in 1917 ( twin of Maria) as the daughters of Henri ( van Coppenolle It would have to be) and Juliette Goossens, who started operating an Inn and a taxi service on the Statieplein in 1932...

Together with her twin sister Marie-Louise Van Coppenolle, she helped her parents to run this inn.

Then her resident brother-in-law Adolf De Mol joined the resistance group on 1 June 1941 the Belgian Volunteer Legion ( B.V.L. ), she also joined a little later, as did her twin sister Marie-Louise Van Coppenolle.


Maria Van Coppenolle survived the war along with their child Werner De Mol.

There is a bunch of information on them in papers etc etc etc

Oh, and Werner married a woman called Heyvaert......
In awe of your research Mishy, are you able to clarify for me where this fits into AKA story. I think this is the first evidence I have seen that Maria (widow of Desire David) marries Abel, but is there a suggestion that AKA may be closely related to the Maria/Adolf family? Thanks in advance.
 
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This version has dropped the paywall:


This small detail jumped out to me: Charlotte is yet another woman who he wanted to go blonde. It's like the Hitchcock movie Vertigo. The hair colour change seems to be a signature move, a test of their passivity, and a sign of his control and leaving his mark. Grotesque.

As compensation for the lost vacation day, he books her the wellness program in the hotel with massages and a hairdresser. "He even chose the color of my hair, I couldn't speak any English," says Charlotte, who is grey-haired now as then, "and then I looked like a canary." Her son recalls, "I didn't recognize my mother at the airport."
In my opinion, the hair colour change is to make it difficult for the victims to get help in foreign countries. The passport photos may not match the victims hair colour anymore, as her son recalls that he did not recognise his mother.
 
  • #74
In my opinion, the hair colour change is to make it difficult for the victims to get help in foreign countries. The passport photos may not match the victims hair colour anymore, as her son recalls that he did not recognise his mother.
I agree
 
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The writeup before it goes back behind paywall


A Belgian swindler with references to Luxembourg did not stop at his own family. The damage is immense.
By Tom Rüdell and Yannick Lambert

When her husband died in 2011, she was sixty at the moment, he was only one year older. The marriage lasted forty years and the life together in Tournai, Belgium, was fulfilled. An adult son, grandchildren. She has no financial problems, the deceased had a good job, she also works in Brussels. First of all, everyone touches the grieving widow. But little by little everyday life returns. Your life is a good deal emptier now, just like your house.

But one of the family continues to take care of it. „ Cousin Willy “ from Australia, a cousin of her late husband, wrote condolences, often called, asked how she was doing now, without his cousin Michel in her life. The widow appreciates that. „ He was very friendly and helpful “, she says later. Above all: You could talk to him well. Cousin Willy listened. After about eight months, in March 2012, cousin Willy even comes to visit to keep her company in her grief, as he says.

Born in Belgium, he has lived in Australia for more than fifty years and has had dual citizenship since 1976. He is twelve years older than her, but is like her Michel on the hair. He will live with her. You will travel to Bali together. From there, cousin Willy will disappear back to Australia overnight. He took cash and valuables from the widow for almost 150,000 euros. He masters the stitch with ease, he has already pulled it off with some other lonely women.

He is Ric Blum aka Fernand Remakel aka Frederick de Hedervary. He is Willy C for his cousin's widow. Although he has used dozens of false names over the decades, some of which he also legally registered in Australia in driving licenses and passports, Willy is his real first name and C. the name of his mother - and his dead cousin.

We meet the stolen widow and her son in northern Belgium almost eleven years later. She does not want to read her real name in the newspaper, does not want to be recognized in photos - apart from the closest family, no one knows the story that happened to her at the time. We therefore call them Charlotte. We also know Willy's last name. Charlotte's son convinced her to speak to us so that the fraudster might still be held accountable. Because an advertisement with the Belgian police in April 2012 had no result: „ It was said that Australia would not deliver him for something like that anyway. “

Charlotte tells in turn, openly, extensively and kindly. Your son supports, provides details and context. The conversation lasts almost three hours. One thing she sends ahead: she and Ric Blum had no romantic or sexual relationship. The other known victims had been a classic marriage fraud. In Australia, two women testified how it went: getting to know each other via contact, marriage promises, coloring a common future „ far away “. Ghislaine Danlois from Brussels had reported that Blum had suggested that she get married in Bali, then she should come to Australia with him. She slept with him in the same bed.

The case of another woman with puzzling references to Luxembourg got international research rolling and finally led Charlotte to a country inn to speak to the press. But the Australian Marion Barter cannot testify. It has disappeared without a trace since 1997. A hearing is currently underway in New South Wales province to clarify whether she is dead. Ric Blum has already testified there. He doesn't want to have anything to do with the disappearance of the teacher. But he admits an affair with Barter.

Things were a little different in Tournai: „ There was nothing between us “, Charlotte clarifies. „ He was a friend, he was a family. He suggested I travel, come out. I was 61 and widowed, why shouldn't I go on vacation with a relative? “

On the 24th. February 2012 she picks up Willy in Lille at the train station. The two get along. She knows him from stories and postcards that he regularly wrote to his cousin for Christmas and from vacation. And she had seen him briefly once, 1992 at the funeral of an aunt of her husband. But then he drove directly from the cemetery back to the airport, according to another guest who has the „ Luxemburger Wort “. This is particularly reminiscent of Blum's shoes made of crocodile leather.

Charlotte will also explain to the police later: „ Il se présente dans un style cool “. But above all: he was an eloquent, cultivated, a good listener. It was good for her to have him with her. The fact that Blum has been married since 1976 is not an issue between the two, not even when a woman from Australia calls twice: „ I knew that he had grown children. He said his daughter was a pilot. There was never any talk of his wife, I thought maybe he was a widower. “

Cousin Willy quickly comes up with business. He was quite successful down under himself, owned a house on Australia's gold coast and one in Bali. Didn't they want to buy one more together? „ Because he knew that I already had real estate, he suggested investing together in a house in Bali “, it says later in Charlotte's statement to the police. You could live there, commute between Belgium and Bali, rent the rest of the time. She agrees. The house should cost 200,000 euros, everyone should pay half. Charlotte takes off 50,000 euros twice at the Fortis branch in Tournai and gives Willy the bundles of money. To complete the real estate deal, you have to travel to Bali, it is a nice vacation, Willy continues. He books tickets for a total of almost 3,000 euros. Charlotte paid.


On 23. March he takes the earliest train from Tournai to Amsterdam - alone. She is supposed to come and meet him at Schiphol Airport. Once in Bali, check in at „ Tama Nayu Cottage “ in Seminyak. His own house in Bali, which of course does not presumably exist, is currently not available, says Willy. In a few days he had to go alone overnight, meet a financial advisor for his share in the joint house purchase. As a reparation for the lost day of vacation, he books the wellness program in the hotel with massages and hairdresser. „ He even chose the hair color for me, I couldn't speak English “, says Charlotte, who was gray-haired today, „ and then I looked like a canary “. Her son remembers: „ I didn't recognize my mother at the airport. “

These are memories that both can at least smile about today. Because the end is - of course - tragic. Cousin Willy comes from his „ business appointment “ on 29. March not back. The money is gone. Charlotte manages to get her return flight with difficulty: „ My tickets, my passport and some cash were in the safe in the hotel room, but he had the combination. “ On the 1st. April Willy writes an email to Charlotte at the hotel. Inside is the code for the safe and a „ explanation “: He took the money because his cousin Michel owed it to him - a brazen lie, says Charlotte.

Cash is not everything​

After all, with the help of a French-speaking tour guide, she can book her flight and fly home. On the 7th. April she is back in Tournai. But it is not over: expensive jewelry, including her wedding ring, as well as a valuable stamp collection and a coin collection are missing from her house - another damage of around 25,000 euros. On the 10th. April Charlotte goes to the police, but finds nothing in her system under the name Willy C. Charlotte's son remembers that one of his postcards a few years ago was signed „ Ric de Hedervary “ - for whatever reason.

The police computer spits out a lot about this and other names - not least the case of Ghislaine Danlois from Brussels in 2006, who had taken 70,000 euros. Another detail comes to mind from the police: Willy, who was very interested in old coins ( „, knew very well with it from “ ), asked her, to collect an order from an ancient Greek and Roman coins from a coin dealer in Brussels. They are ordered on their maiden name - the name C. must not appear there. He gives her cash, which is likely to be her own - because she had been on the bench. The day before departure to Bali, she picks up the coins.

Again the same question arises as in November when Danlois told her story: How can it happen that such a prudent, sovereign woman, this time even working, falls on such crooked tours within a few weeks? Both victims have in common that they were widowed, one longer, the other fresh. And that they had reached a point in their lives where they might be wondering what was to come.

„ Vulnerable middle-aged women “​

The New South Wales Prosecutor's Office summed it up during the Marion Barter case hearing: „ Middle aged and vulnerable women “, „ vulnerable middle-aged women “ were the target group of professional swindler Ric Blum, the accusation said. In Tournai there is also: Blum was already introduced to the family at least indirectly, he was part of the family tree. The door was wide open. Charlotte's son explains: „ My father often told about his cousin Willy in Australia. Very benevolent. I had never seen it until 2012. For me it was like a phantom. But someone my father talked about well. “ That was obviously enough: „ He had it very easy. “


Even though the father even provided a warning about his cousin in his anecdotes: Willy was a good guy, but due to previous problems with the law, he is no longer allowed to enter Belgium. It is not clear whether there was really a ban on entry - „ Problems “ are understated: Ric Blum has been in prison for a good ten years since the 1960s for various fraud offenses in France and Belgium, and under the name Roger Lauzoney he was arrested at least once in Luxembourg in 1976. Even during his time as a furniture dealer in Noertzingen in the early 1980s, he always had problems with the police, a former neighbor recalls.

„ He didn't want to see anyone in Belgium, least of all from the family “, Charlotte recalls. At that time she found it strange, now she knows why. Ric Blum made a request for an opinion on the latest allegations by the editors of the Podcasts „ The Lady Vanishes “, with which the „ Luxemburger Wort “ works for the case, unanswered.




THESE JOURNOS ARE THE BEST!

MORE AND MORE WOMEN COMING FORWARD.

SO SO BRAVE TO STAND UP AND BE HEARD!

Wonder what THIS MONSTER DID with all this money he stole FROM INNOCENT VICTIMS!!!

Who are the beneficiaries of such bounties??????
Can these people be prosecuted ??
HOPE SO!!!

There is NO WAY possible that DW /DD /DdeH / DB did NOT know about all of this.

Perjury Perjury Perjury!

Imagine being the offspring of these two. SO EMBARRASSING!!!!
 

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In my opinion, the hair colour change is to make it difficult for the victims to get help in foreign countries. The passport photos may not match the victims hair colour anymore, as her son recalls that he did not recognise his mother.
Or even just a narcissistic act that he could chuckle about later, making them change something so personal as a physical manifestation of his warped control of them. He genuinely may have got it from Vertigo, where that is what Jimmy Stewart does to Kim Novak.
 
  • #77
Or even just a narcissistic act that he could chuckle about later, making them change something so personal as a physical manifestation of his warped control of them. He genuinely may have got it from Vertigo, where that is what Jimmy Stewart does to Kim Novak.
Totally
I put nothing past him.

He is one sick Narcissist
 
  • #78
So this woman who was the wife of Willy Coppenolles cousin, was the woman Ghislaine Danlois from Brussels talked about in her interview -
GD said she was contacted by police in 2012 in regard to another victim from Tournai, Belgium (she doesn't know her name). This other woman was ditched in Bali, penniless, not speaking English, somehow managed to get back to Belgium.

The paper also shared the image of Willy Coppenolle again -


""Ric Blum aka Willy C., what he looked like around 2008. Charlotte and her son recognize him directly in 2023, the photo comes from the police. ""

And the furniture business photo - stating ""An edition of LuxPost for the opening of the furniture store in Noertzingen in 1980. Ric Blum alias Fredy David is the second from the right in the picture, and probably his wife Dianne next to it"".




It is ironic that when AC questioned Dianne / Diane if she had ever heard him use Fredy David , she said no.


But here she is in 1980 standing beside him.

What else is Dianne / Diane lying about????

Wonder if she had aliases, or maybe just used all her names like her maiden name..... and various names her husband used?????
 

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I bored myself *itless listening to his dribble again- about his 'family" but it is amazing what comes to light after reviewing both their lies at the inquest -

What I did notice was the week leading up to the inquest it was discussed on here a family tree with all the Coppenolles /Wouters etc etc ( just something to be aware of)


Day 7 : establishing the family

AC – what was the name given to you when born

Blum – on the record of my birth, WHICH I HAVE, I was DECLARED AS WILLY COPPENOLLE-
When I was about 3 the home I was living was bombed and the person which I bare the name was taken by German ambulance, she had legs off, taken to the hospital where she was amputated.

The man I believe to be my father came back to from the civil war in Spain and was arrested by
germans and executed in 1943 / 1944. ((((Spanish Civil War 17 July 1936 – 1 Apr 1939))))

AC - what was his name

BLUM – his name was Desire David was his name. That is what I have been told.

AC – what was his first name

BLUM – his first name was desire and his christian name was David ( I think he meant to say surname here - but a seed was planted for him leading into another cunning confusion)

AC – David desire ?

BLUM – Desire David -

(HE SAYS THE NAME BUT AC IS CONFUSED ( LIKE ALL OF US WHEN IT COMES TO AKA DRIBBLE)


AC – and surname was Desire?


BLUM – after a pause and a thought ( YOU CAN SEE IT AND SUDDENLY HE REALISES THAT HE HAS TO DROP IN THE NAME HEDERVARY BECAUSE HIS KIDS ARE THAT NAME AND UNTIL NOW THEY DONT REALISE THEIR FATHER IS A LYING PSYCHOPATH)
- NO The surname I think was hedervary – that is what I was told


AC – you were told your biological father was DAVID DESIRE HEDERVARY?


BLUM - YES THAT IS WHAT I WAS TOLD…. Before I went to orphanage you know


AC – and her birth mother?


BLUM – My understanding was Maria Coppenolle – that was on my um um um errr um – like the BDM in Australia were registered = that was bombed and all the records were burned in the bombing - Maria Coppenolle – I was told was my mother - I went to war orphanage


Blum - I walked out of orphanage in 1951 ( HE WOULD HAVE BEEN 12 YRS OLD) – and reunited with MC and she was married to abel wouters – he was never called abel he was called Andre. He middle name was Florent. My step father.

I had 2 brothers – I don't know if half brothers or step brothers – Fredy and Desire - surname David. Because I was declared as born from a single mother and when my brothers were born she was married so they took the fathers name. But mine, because it happened before (her marriage to Desire David) my name was changed to Wouters. Because when she remarried Wouters the registar ummm eerrrr….



AC – when did your mother die

BLUM – I cant remember – 20 yrs ago, I cant remember - I was in Coles supermarket and got a call



BUT only a short time prior to the inquest - 2010 he is selling the 'family jewels' on line

and again in 2021 - Lot 1627 - World Gold Coins - Sale 126 - Noble Numismatics

(( There is more on these coins and the connections he mentions which I will post up)

BUT the point is, HE says he can't remember WHEN she dies - he takes ages to speak - thinking / lining up his ducks, when asked this question...

IF HE IS HER SON, THEN HE HAS NO ATTACHMENT TO HER FOR SOME REASON .......abandonment


Blum - Freddy died first then andre and the mother ended up on her own and died in hospital –I cant remember.
My other brother ( DD) I sent an to email to find out… I havent spoken to him for at least 30 years. I sent an email to see if he was still alive but never got an answer.



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HE is listed as WD - first born - July 1939 - on a tree that belongs to MC niece - the daughter of one of Maria's sister

I found that MC husband DD had a blew with her father Charles in DECEMBER 1938

So DD is around then - ( but still cant find the marriage of DD and MC)

DID she did fall pregnant by someone other than DD / or fell pregnant prior to the marriage and Charles forced him to marry her, hence the blow up - it must have been pretty big because that sentence was huge....

- Coppenolle Charles, shop keeper in Ramegnies-Chin, accused of having insulted Désiré David on August 13, was condemned, suspended for 1 year, to a fine of 70 francs.

In that case MC is already pregnant IF AKA is her son.......- AKA IS BORN 7 MONTHS LATER

Presuming he is, then could it not be possible that when MC husband dies in March 1943 - the same year their son DD is born October 1943 ( MC would be about 3 months pregnant when DD dies) and FD would be about 1 / 2 years old
that both the older children, WD and FD are placed with other family members.........and MC keeps the baby with her.
With the idea that eventually she will collect the older 2 once she is able to cope? But it never happens as she meets and marries AW in 1950.


(OR it could still work that RC is his father and MC takes care of him at the start of war - RC and his fiancee being a resistance fighters)



FD and WD / AKA have a long history of theft and crime.

I can find VERY little on DD jnr - a car crash and maybe a court case in his adult life someone else found, along with being a long standing member of Lions - but he does seem to have escaped that crime scene of his brothers.




I also found one of Desire Davids sisters, in court for fraud -

1946:

KBR - Belgicapress


125,000 francs
The last few days, we have
reported that a man named Mathieu Closset, 30 years old,
residing on rue des Deportés, 17 in Soumagne.
had complained to the 6th division about a theft of 125,000 francs,
which according to him, he would have been a victim in the Slaughterhouse district, in Liège.

The Security Service, informed of the matter, found this flight excessively "shady" and opened an investigation which just ended with the arrest of the so-called stolen.
Closset has indeed just confessed that he had lost, at the game, his boss's money, in a cafe on rue Gérardrië, in Liège, where he had been trained by two scammers.

Continuing its investigations, the Security managed to find the two women, named Marie Dumont 27 years old domiciled rue des Charbonniers, 35 in St-Josse-ten-Noode, already connected, the last days, to a theft case, and Florentine David 36 years old, domiciled rue de la Madeleine, 28. in Liège

Shortly after, she brought back the goods the named Jean Jacob, 43 years old, living on Mathieu street in Lexhy 65, in Liège.

The four sad characters have been made available to the judge Capelle
Closset, of the count of abuse confidence and contempt of the police Dumont, David and Jacob of the chief of scams.


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In any case, FD and WD /WDC /AKA have spent a lifetime of criminal deception.

IMO AKA used the same process he used all his life to swindle the Coppenolle family relating to MC and her Father and Mother, stealing the coins possibly from DD which he may have inherited, which is why AKA 'hasnt spoken to him for years"
He stole them and sold them/ or tried to sell them / probably made more fake ones from a die cast...


He wasn't part of this family - he used this family like every other family he met. He robbed them. Stole their identity. Made up a story whereby he lived through it, telling his current kids this was his family with a father who was named DeHedervary ( sorry kids - you were also scammed)

He then used Andre Wouters name to change his from WD to WW to commit a life of crime in his youth and at age 30 married a young naive girl from Hungary and took off for Australia - a safe haven - to see who else he could rob.

He then meets DW, a perfect match - both ripping off the Australian Government all their adult life, never working an honest job, moving from place to place, buying property under various names from Walker to DeH to Blum to Stien etc etc etc

Their neighbour on the GC declared DW /DdeH /DD / DB - KNEW AKA was using various names, KNEW he was making fake bonds and casts....... """""Diane was always around when he told porkies - he work out of his garage with his coin business – rare coins and notes and once we saw him punch blank coins with stamp and hammer to make them look rare antiques.
He asked my husband if they knew anyone who could make coins in large quantities like a mint press….he printed lots of paper material and some looked like photocopies of Bonds Certificates.""""


AND somewhere along the way - probably when he met DW in 1971 - he stumbles across an incredible story, well documented in the old newspapers, of another criminal who swept up women all through Europe and set about creating the same playbook - with a new wife who looks UNCANNILY like the sister of the swindler, who was named Desire Charles Octave David.




*Still wonder if she is wearing JO jewelley in this photo.......

At the VERY least they have BOTH committed perjury on the stand.

BOTH liars, BOTH aware of what each was doing, BOTH part of a lifetime of scamming.
She fits the bill perfectly as a MB stand in at the bank.


Have the police arrested them yet!!????



I have to add IMO, JMO, MOO :rolleyes:
Brilliant research and summing up Mishy
 
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In my opinion, the hair colour change is to make it difficult for the victims to get help in foreign countries. The passport photos may not match the victims hair colour anymore, as her son recalls that he did not recognise his mother.
Is it possible because the one woman he is smitten about (as was clear at the inquest) is blonde?
 
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