Thank you KiwiNZ. Great points. I also worry about whether there are recent victims. Re his reference to ‘thousands of women online’ at the inquest. (paraphrasing/from memory). Such a shame computers/phones couldn’t be ‘inspected’ by authorities. Agree with you re accountability to Centrelink. Particularly after watching some of the robodebt enquiry! Just my humble opinion of course.
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Oh, wow!
Finally! Anyone know if Aussie media is allowed to publish the same article? Very powerful visual. Could jog some memories.
Oh yes, finally, in Belgian newspaper! This is going to jog memories! So glad they finally jumped on this train!
Tlv says front page. It is, BUT it’s the weekendattatchment. So don’t be fooled.
Still: yay!!
Now let’s get it online, without paywall & share the sh*t out of that on Social Media!
For those without Facebook.
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I thought a couple were new ones but I searched my files and these names were on the write up about GD
""" Ric Blum's names according to Australian investigation file .
""" Ric Blum's names according to Australian investigation file .
- Anthony GRECH, Atilla DUPONT, Bernard DUPONT, Charles GUYON, Christopher DU PONT, Christopher STIEN, Fernand Nocolas REMAKEL, Francis David DE HEDERVARY, Franck MELAN, Freddy DAVID, Richard BLUM, Ric BLUM, Richard Lloyd WEST, Rick WEST, Willy WOUTERS, Wouters WILLY, David FREDDY, Frederick David
DE HEDERVARY, Frederick DE HEDERVARU, Frederick DE-HAVERDERY, Frederic DE-HAVERDERY, Gaetan LE BOURISCOT, Guy DIVIO, Philippe DINT, Remy LAOJOY, Rich RICHARD, Richard Lloyd WESTBURY, Rick RICHARD, Roger LAZONEY /LAUXONEY/LAUZONEY, Willy COPPENOLE, Willy DAVID COPPENOLLE"
REAL NAME - Willy / WILLIAM COPPENOLLE
Lets do Australias press release for them!!!
They seem as inept as the NSW police in their job!
Diane / Dianne maintained she had never heard Willy Coppenolle using the name FREDY DAVID - here she is standing right beside him with his alias given to the newspaper at the time as Fredy David - funny that.
Lets do Australias press release for them!!!
They seem as inept as the NSW police in their job!
Diane / Dianne maintained she had never heard Willy Coppenolle using the name FREDY DAVID - here she is standing right beside him with his alias given to the newspaper at the time as Fredy David - funny that.
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As much as it’s not funny, I can’t help but find his aliases laughable. Some of them remind me of when you’re forced to change a password and can’t quite be bothered. I’m expecting him to call himself Willy Wouters1! Freddy de Hedervary$123
On the blonde hair being perhaps like his mother, there’s a few pics of him where he’s looked as though he might be emulating an older blonde woman himself.
On the blonde hair being perhaps like his mother, there’s a few pics of him where he’s looked as though he might be emulating an older blonde woman himself.
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To be fair, he didn't claim to have come up with that expression himself. He was very vague about where it was from though... He narrowed it down to one of two countries. While in reality he stole if from a book LOL. But the other stuff in the letter is just plain copying other people's...
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Sorry I know I have harped on about this person DCOD for a long time but I wanted to revisit it all again as I have found some more information on him. He also had a few aliases.
The link to Desire Charles Octave David was originally found by @KittensAugustus and the story was so aligned to the present 'Willy Coppenolle", I couldnt stop researching him.
There are lots of links to him here if you do a search.
But here is a summary:
The history of a French swindler by the name of Desire Charles Octave David ( Not Maria C 1st husband because there is a 10yr birthdate difference)
Here is a summary of what I found back then.
Desire Charles Octave David ~
Wounded war hero
Placed advertisements to find woman
Fraudster
Womaniser
Professional Dancer / gigolo
Flitting all over Europe - especially Amsterdam France & Germany
Accomplices - sister and Mistress - who helped choose victims for him
Passing himself off as a member of a rich noble family
Claimed disabled to work – living off the riches of the women
Born in November 1895, son of a school teacher, twice wounded during the war, charged in 1926 with espionage and fraud for the benefit of Germany. Claimed in the Reich while he had taken refuge in Dusseldorf, he was extradited and tried on the charge of fraud. His accomplice was his sister and his Mistress. ( I have since found a lot of information on her too)
1934 – DCOD goes to jailed – He changes his name after the scandalous Trial and after the trial he has no footprint...name changed....? He dies in 1972 under DD
One newspaper clipping claimed he had 7 wives and his long term Mistress - Mathilde Tadieu
"1915, during a convalescence in Pont-Saint-Eaprit, he obtained the hand of Mademoiselle Fournier, daughter of a wealthy merchant from Varenne-Saint-Hriaire. The parents had not without resistance, consented to this marriage, But Mademoiselle Fournier loved the brilliant Officer. It seems that she was the only one to love, while the brilliant lieutenant's career was willing to disperse.
It was much worse when, seriously wounded at Malmaison, placed on standby, then reinstated Désiré-Octave David was returned to civilian life. Until then he had contented himself with cashing in on his father-in-law's coffers. He will now embark on a series of extravagant undertakings by presenting himself as the partner of his father-in-law, by manufacturing fake coins to make people believe in this association, by falsely signing a bill of francs in his father-in-law's name….by claiming for millions that he does not have from a famous brand of chocolate, which will earn him 125,000 francs....
So much so that his wife ends up divorcing and his father-in-law by filing a complaint. From which David was by no means dismounted. He only set his sights on other victims."
REMIND YOU OF ANYONE????!!!!
Married again 1930:
She met David in Rennes. He left the prison of this city without her knowing it. "I thought I was marrying a seriously wounded soldier. I married a habitual criminal, me, the daughter of a lawyer and mother of 1 girl. It shows David stealing her jewelry and titles, then stripping the very wasteland of friends she had. Madame Deloustal gets up and pointing to David, exclaims: "That scoundrel is stealing everything." He even stole a gun from me and maybe that's why he's still alive. And my name was Mrs. David, I was the wife of that crook. I am the daughter of a lawyer, my father would never have treated a woman as you treat me".
At Hotel d'Orsay where he had settled, he had a secretary to whom he had promised 3,000 francs monthly salary and a typist at 450 francs.....
David had something better in hand, Renee Gaudin known as Augustina, his senior by six years. Mother already of a girl, but friend of a rich Greek commission agent, who had gifted her money and tens of thousands of dollars in jewellery.
From the Hotel d'Orsay, David and Renee Gaudin set out for Lyons where they took up residence there. The taking of possession of her wealth was such that Renée Gandin did not hesitate to confide to David her treasure as she believed him to be a millionaire, her jewels locked away in a safe.
When Renee Gaurdin returned to Paris, her briefcase contained nothing more than a stuffed animal of fur worth 25,000 francs, and the false jewels with which David had replaced because the real ones were sold by him.
When she confronted him he told her the briefcase had been stolen and found on the railway tracks, he had nothing to do with it.
REMIND YOU OF ANYONE!!!???
His fourth victim was Mademoiselle Helene Fournoux, who answered David's advertisement for a Secretary.
She fell in love with him........
Desire David's accomplices were his sister Elise David and his girlfriend Mathilde Tadieu - she came from a prestigious family who were surprised to find out she had been involved.......they were all arrested in Passy and jailed.
REMIND YOU OF ANYONE!!!???
And a bookshop owner, Helene Spiegel, joined the queue of complaints.
Released on bail, David strategically married Alice Dazel, daughter of a high judicial official, who gave evidence
that David had turned out a model husband and father.
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Well researched Mishy66! Mr AKA is very well read and I feel sure would have read all he could on DCOD and admired him so much that he has fashioned his own life on him!Australia - Australia - Marion Barter, 51, missing after trip to UK, June 1997 #14
To be fair, he didn't claim to have come up with that expression himself. He was very vague about where it was from though... He narrowed it down to one of two countries. While in reality he stole if from a book LOL. But the other stuff in the letter is just plain copying other people's...
Sorry I know I have harped on about this person DCOD for a long time but I wanted to revisit it all again as I have found some more information on him. He also had a few aliases.
The link to Desire Charles Octave David was originally found by @KittensAugustus and the story was so aligned to the present 'Willy Coppenolle", I couldnt stop researching him.
There are lots of links to him here if you do a search.
But here is a summary:
The history of a French swindler by the name of Desire Charles Octave David ( Not Maria C 1st husband because there is a 10yr birthdate difference)
Here is a summary of what I found back then.
Desire Charles Octave David ~
Wounded war hero
Placed advertisements to find woman
Fraudster
Womaniser
Professional Dancer / gigolo
Flitting all over Europe - especially Amsterdam France & Germany
Accomplices - sister and Mistress - who helped choose victims for him
Passing himself off as a member of a rich noble family
Claimed disabled to work – living off the riches of the women
Born in November 1895, son of a school teacher, twice wounded during the war, charged in 1926 with espionage and fraud for the benefit of Germany. Claimed in the Reich while he had taken refuge in Dusseldorf, he was extradited and tried on the charge of fraud. His accomplice was his sister and his Mistress. ( I have since found a lot of information on her too)
1934 – DCOD goes to jailed – He changes his name after the scandalous Trial and after the trial he has no footprint...name changed....? He dies in 1972 under DD
One newspaper clipping claimed he had 7 wives and his long term Mistress - Mathilde Tadieu
"1915, during a convalescence in Pont-Saint-Eaprit, he obtained the hand of Mademoiselle Fournier, daughter of a wealthy merchant from Varenne-Saint-Hriaire. The parents had not without resistance, consented to this marriage, But Mademoiselle Fournier loved the brilliant Officer. It seems that she was the only one to love, while the brilliant lieutenant's career was willing to disperse.
It was much worse when, seriously wounded at Malmaison, placed on standby, then reinstated Désiré-Octave David was returned to civilian life. Until then he had contented himself with cashing in on his father-in-law's coffers. He will now embark on a series of extravagant undertakings by presenting himself as the partner of his father-in-law, by manufacturing fake coins to make people believe in this association, by falsely signing a bill of francs in his father-in-law's name….by claiming for millions that he does not have from a famous brand of chocolate, which will earn him 125,000 francs....
So much so that his wife ends up divorcing and his father-in-law by filing a complaint. From which David was by no means dismounted. He only set his sights on other victims."
REMIND YOU OF ANYONE????!!!!
Married again 1930:
She met David in Rennes. He left the prison of this city without her knowing it. "I thought I was marrying a seriously wounded soldier. I married a habitual criminal, me, the daughter of a lawyer and mother of 1 girl. It shows David stealing her jewelry and titles, then stripping the very wasteland of friends she had. Madame Deloustal gets up and pointing to David, exclaims: "That scoundrel is stealing everything." He even stole a gun from me and maybe that's why he's still alive. And my name was Mrs. David, I was the wife of that crook. I am the daughter of a lawyer, my father would never have treated a woman as you treat me".
At Hotel d'Orsay where he had settled, he had a secretary to whom he had promised 3,000 francs monthly salary and a typist at 450 francs.....
David had something better in hand, Renee Gaudin known as Augustina, his senior by six years. Mother already of a girl, but friend of a rich Greek commission agent, who had gifted her money and tens of thousands of dollars in jewellery.
From the Hotel d'Orsay, David and Renee Gaudin set out for Lyons where they took up residence there. The taking of possession of her wealth was such that Renée Gandin did not hesitate to confide to David her treasure as she believed him to be a millionaire, her jewels locked away in a safe.
When Renee Gaurdin returned to Paris, her briefcase contained nothing more than a stuffed animal of fur worth 25,000 francs, and the false jewels with which David had replaced because the real ones were sold by him.
When she confronted him he told her the briefcase had been stolen and found on the railway tracks, he had nothing to do with it.
REMIND YOU OF ANYONE!!!???
His fourth victim was Mademoiselle Helene Fournoux, who answered David's advertisement for a Secretary.
She fell in love with him........
Desire David's accomplices were his sister Elise David and his girlfriend Mathilde Tadieu - she came from a prestigious family who were surprised to find out she had been involved.......they were all arrested in Passy and jailed.
REMIND YOU OF ANYONE!!!???
And a bookshop owner, Helene Spiegel, joined the queue of complaints.
Released on bail, David strategically married Alice Dazel, daughter of a high judicial official, who gave evidence
that David had turned out a model husband and father.
The Chicago tribune and the Daily news, New York | 1932-11-20 | Gallica
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Een kwarteeuw nadat de Australische lerares Marion Barter (51) mysterieus verdween, leidt het spoor naar een Belgische meesteroplichter. Een crimineel die onder liefst dertig aliassen in tal van landen een spoor van bedrog, diefstal, verleiding en misleiding achterliet, zo blijkt uit onderzoek...
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Is anyone able to access the online version and provide a translation please?
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@KiwiNZ Thanks for your non-legal rundown. Seems very complete. RE: #3 . . .I've watched enough documentaries and listened to enough podcasts to know that this kind of fraud is very hard to prosecute -- unless there's bodily harm. Conartists are experts at getting victims to agree to things which give the perp enough leeway to rob and steal. It's he said vs she said. This is one of the things that is so damn aggravating.
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I can only see this bit that I used Google translate on. The rest is behind a paywall.
Born in Tournai, victims as far away as Australia: the story of the elusive Belgian master con artist
"A quarter of a century after the Australian teacher Marion Barter (51) mysteriously disappeared, the trail leads to a Belgian master con artist. A criminal who left behind a trail of deceit, theft, seduction and deception under no less than thirty aliases in numerous countries, according to research by our newspaper in collaboration with two Luxembourg colleagues. He stripped at least two Belgian women financially. Will he remain elusive in his old age?"
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Born in Tournai, victims as far away as Australia: the story of the elusive Belgian master con artist
"A quarter of a century after the Australian teacher Marion Barter (51) mysteriously disappeared, the trail leads to a Belgian master con artist. A criminal who left behind a trail of deceit, theft, seduction and deception under no less than thirty aliases in numerous countries, according to research by our newspaper in collaboration with two Luxembourg colleagues. He stripped at least two Belgian women financially. Will he remain elusive in his old age?"
Jarenlang bleef Belgische meesteroplichter ongrijpbaar, maar daar kan nu door 25 jaar oude verdwijningszaak verandering in komen
Een kwarteeuw nadat de Australische lerares Marion Barter (51) mysterieus verdween, leidt het spoor naar een Belgische meesteroplichter. Een crimineel die onder liefst dertig aliassen in tal van landen een spoor van bedrog, diefstal, verleiding en misleiding achterliet, zo blijkt uit onderzoek...
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The translated version shows a box to sign up and read. I'm not sure if it means for free.
I don't want to try it.
Trying to post the translated page but it won't let me.
Anyway just above the box at the bottom, the translated version says:
Reading without a subscription?
Sign up and read ' Born in Tournai, victims as far as Australia: the story of the elusive Belgian master con artist"
Then the box to put your email address in.
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I don't want to try it.
Trying to post the translated page but it won't let me.
Anyway just above the box at the bottom, the translated version says:
Reading without a subscription?
Sign up and read ' Born in Tournai, victims as far as Australia: the story of the elusive Belgian master con artist"
Then the box to put your email address in.
Jarenlang bleef Belgische meesteroplichter ongrijpbaar, maar daar kan nu door 25 jaar oude verdwijningszaak verandering in komen
Een kwarteeuw nadat de Australische lerares Marion Barter (51) mysterieus verdween, leidt het spoor naar een Belgische meesteroplichter. Een crimineel die onder liefst dertig aliassen in tal van landen een spoor van bedrog, diefstal, verleiding en misleiding achterliet, zo blijkt uit onderzoek...
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Trying to post the translated page but it won't let me.
I can't see the whole page, just the translated bit that I posted.
I'd love to read the whole thing and am tempted to put my email address in.
But not if that means I'm signing up to pay
I can't see the whole page, just the translated bit that I posted.
I'd love to read the whole thing and am tempted to put my email address in.
But not if that means I'm signing up to pay
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