Australia Australia - Marion Barter - Missing After Trip to UK - June 1997 #17

[Martinie]

My question is. Did he change his name with centrelink everytime he had a name change or did he just use the "one bank account for his pension income in the
De Hedervary name. And travel on the other names?

I don't know. I would think you'd have to change it if you were legally changing names? I guess the government departments weren't likned back then like they are now and easier to get around. I just figured if centrelink were aware by now that it would be hot gossip around the offices.

 

[wallyworld]

If it was me and I was under suspicion of something, like a missing person and there was a thread here, I'd be here all the time.
Its only human nature. I'd be here even if I was totally innocent.
I wouldn't post, or like anyone's post. I would try to keep a very low profile.
I would also choose a user name that had no hints as to my real identity (or identities)

He would be doing so at the cost of his footprint being traced. Extremely hard to hide internet histories totally and everything is traceable these days. Using public computers in a library is also traceable as you need to log in as a library member in order to use them.

 

[HinterlandObserver]

Just looking over some old posts and links to Ballina Coins again.

Wonder if anyone has found more info on all this now?

1994 Ballina Coin Investments and DeHedervary Family Trust are set up by Vernon Paul Ware (Accountant)

95 Tamar St Ballina

BALLINA COIN INVEST PTY. LTD.
Barry Cooper books and coins. Barry Cooper mentioned by JO and the address of office

Ballina Coins had a name change to Clarendon Hills Investments Pty Ltd.

CLARENDON HILL INVESTMENTS PTY. LIMITED
Company Number
066294424

Incorporation Date
2 September 1994 (over 27 years ago)
Business Number
44066294424
BALLINA

There's definitely something about oldmatey key principal.
Dun&bradstreet have him as one number on a residential street, some government tax site has him listed as 95 Tamar st, a legal entity identifier site has him listed as another number on the same residential street as the first, theres another tax agent listed at the first address and then there's a slew of other businesses operating from it too. I went for a drive and the area although residential is still very private with the houses on acreages.

But on another note, the Attila name, I found one that was also known at one of their addresses which may also be an alias? I dont think we have dug into the backstory of that name yet?

 

[KinseyFan]

Australia - Australia - Marion Barter, 51, missing after trip to UK, June 1997 #14

This isn't necessarily specific to the 1990s but she arrived on a Saturday

www.websleuths.com

Douglas Reid was the deputy Chairman of Southern Cross Holdings Ltd

Wow.

 

[KinseyFan]

He would be doing so at the cost of his footprint being traced. Extremely hard to hide internet histories totally and everything is traceable these days. Using public computers in a library is also traceable as you need to log in as a library member in order to use them.

Ooh great point!

 

[Lord Peter Flimsy]

So DDhD has been on a carers pension since the 70s? She would have been a young woman then, wouldn’t she?

I think they started claiming as soon as they returned to Australia in 1986 after being in the UK for 3 years. Perhaps they struggled hoodwinking the British agencies or the system wasn’t so generous?!

 

[Lord Peter Flimsy]

If it was me and I was under suspicion of something, like a missing person and there was a thread here, I'd be here all the time.
Its only human nature. I'd be here even if I was totally innocent.
I wouldn't post, or like anyone's post. I would try to keep a very low profile.
I would also choose a user name that had no hints as to my real identity (or identities)

He’ll have to make up another alias. He’s good at that. A lifetime of practice.

 

[Lord Peter Flimsy]

JMO, but based on his apparent knowledge of coins, antiques, perhaps poisons, not to mention the people who happen to have the same names as his alleged aliases and other, people with similar, erm, talents - presumably he must be very widely read in quite niche subjects. This was often well prior to the internet. Presumably he must have frequented libraries or bookshops where specific books would need researching and ordering?

How I wish those records, particularly libraries, in the areas he’s lived, were accessible.

The real FR and MC ran a bookshop in Luxembourg that I’m sure he frequented.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

In February 1976, he applied for citizenship under a new name he had legally adopted through deed poll, Frederick De Hedervary. Within weeks he was attending a Sydney citizenship ceremony, after asking for and receiving urgent approval because his father was dying in Belgium.

Quite likely there may have been a photo of the new citizens in the area paper.

 

[gymtonic]

Not word for word, but "a declaration was drawn up, on that day, in Lorzé". I would imagine that's Lorzé in Switzerland.

Does it say ”à Lorze” or “à seize heures »? Which translated (from French) would be »at 16:00 hours (4 O’Clock). I also see maybe the words « sur la déclaration » which translates as « according to the statement ». Struggling with the first bit at the moment Because it looks like old French script handwriting.

UPDATE: I think it says:
« decessé le jour susdit à seize heures, sur la déclaration »
which translates as:
« Died on the aforesaid day at four o’clock, on the declaration » (or according to the statement)…depends what comes next or the context.
plus the first word could be « cessé » with a big square in front! Meaning «ceased ». If you have a wider screenshot of the words either side, I could probably do better on that first word.
@mishy66

 

[TootsieFootsie]

The real FR and MC ran a bookshop in Luxembourg that I’m sure he frequented.

Maybe that was where he got the hots for Monique.

 

[Lord Peter Flimsy]

Wow.

Do we know the full names of R & L Westbury?

 

[Lord Peter Flimsy]

Maybe that was where he got the hots for Monique.

I still so want to hear her full story. Come on TLV.

She was the one who said he was Jewish. I know I’m one of a few that IMHO believes he might be which is why I would like to see his birth certificate and even then that might not be 100% proof of who he is.

She also told the story he recounted to her of him working at the British Embassy in Luxembourg as a secret agent, a tactic so often used by con-artists and no doubt used by him on more than one occasion to put the fear of God into some of his victims and so that they avoid contact with their families and close friends.

 

[Annalize]

He’ll have to make up another alias. He’s good at that. A lifetime of practice.

How about someone takes his fingerprints and those of the devoted DDH?
How about someone takes DNA samples?
How about we skip names, too much intrigue and game playing for these characters.. just fingerprints and DNA
Then whatever names they invent will not matter at all..
No matter where they travel, or whatever they touch it can be traced back to them
No more games.. no more of my money.. time is up..
How about DDH pays for her life of crime.. she can have a break from her carers role.
I'm sure the man of mystery would have plenty of carers behind bars.

 

[KinseyFan]

I still so want to hear her full story. Come on TLV.

She was the one who said he was Jewish. I know I’m one of a few that IMHO believes he might be which is why I would like to see his birth certificate and even then that might not be 100% proof of who he is.

She also told the story he recounted to her of him working at the British Embassy in Luxembourg as a secret agent, a tactic so often used by con-artists and no doubt used by him on more than one occasion to put the fear of God into some of his victims and so that they avoid contact with their families and close friends.

And to create a (false) sense of urgency. How terrifying.

 

[MrsWattle]

The real FR and MC ran a bookshop in Luxembourg that I’m sure he frequented.

His mate Barry Cooper had a bookstore in Ballina. I don't think Barry liked Mrs Aka.

 

[MrsWattle]

How about someone takes his fingerprints and those of the devoted DDH?
How about someone takes DNA samples?
How about we skip names, too much intrigue and game playing for these characters.. just fingerprints and DNA
Then whatever names they invent will not matter at all..
No matter where they travel, or whatever they touch it can be traced back to them
No more games.. no more of my money.. time is up..
How about DDH pays for her life of crime.. she can have a break from her carers role.
I'm sure the man of mystery would have plenty of carers behind bars.

Get his DNA and fingerprints and run it through unsolved crimes.
Geeeezus why wasn't he dealt with years ago!

 

[mishy66]

Just looking over some old posts and links to Ballina Coins again.

Wonder if anyone has found more info on all this now?

1994 Ballina Coin Investments and DeHedervary Family Trust are set up by Vernon Paul Ware (Accountant)

95 Tamar St Ballina

BALLINA COIN INVEST PTY. LTD.
Barry Cooper books and coins. Barry Cooper mentioned by JO and the address of office

Ballina Coins had a name change to Clarendon Hills Investments Pty Ltd.

CLARENDON HILL INVESTMENTS PTY. LIMITED
Company Number
066294424

Incorporation Date
2 September 1994 (over 27 years ago)
Business Number
44066294424
BALLINA

Back in # 7 and #12 thread there is a lot of info on Ballina Coins and Clarendon - his mate Baz and dodgy accountant Vernon Ware - adddresses found and other links to companies ABN etc etc.



While the coin chat has resurfaced I found some more fascinating info about these companies - personally I think AH is still involved with these people and I found a connection to one of them and Alstonville.


Just posting these again with the 95 Tamar St Ballina address to Ballina Coins and Clarendon

Australia Business Listing

www.aus61business.com

ACN: 066294424

Historical details for ABN 44 066 294 424 | ABN Lookup

abr.business.gov.au

https://connectonline.asic.gov.au/RegistrySearch/faces/landing/panelSearch.jspx?searchText=066294424&searchType=OrgAndBusNm&_adf.ctrl-state=le05bcdk8_43

95 Tarmar St Ballina is also linked to the chartered accountant Ware here:

Cash Flow Forecasting, Estate Matters, GST Management, MF Partners, Ballina, NSW, Australia

www.mfpartners.com.au

MF Partners Chartered Accountants
Marriott Foreman Partners

Vernon Ware Partner Taxation and Business Services Vernon joined MF Partners in 1994 and became a partner in 1998. Vernon has a varied client base, both industry wise and geographically, and handles complex taxation issues for both individual and corporate clients. He has achieved major gains for clients through effective tax planning and a thorough knowledge of Capital Gains Tax concessions and business rollover relief. Vernon specialises in advice on business taxation, sale, acquisition and restructuring. Vernon is a Chartered Accountant.

Down on the right hand side you will see the contact details:

Level 1, 95 Tamar St Ballina, NSW, 2478

P (02) 6686 2622

The company also has another premises at

Suite 4, 128 Dangar St Armidale NSW 2350

Historical Records:

Historical details for ABN 72 452 312 664 | ABN Lookup

abr.business.gov.au

About Us , MF Partners , Ballina, NSW, Australia

www.mfpartners.com.au

Mark Charter Partner Audit, Assurance and Superannuation Mark joined the firm in 1996 and has developed the Audit and Assurance, Superannuation, Compliance and System Advisory divisions of the firm. He is responsible for the running of these services and ensuring the firms highly skilled team can be deployed to meet clients needs. Mark has been a registered company auditor since 1996, approved SMSF auditor since 2013 and also an authorised representative of the SMSF Advisers Network for providing superannuation advice. For over 27 years Mark has been servicing our varied clients in the Agri, Aged Care, Education and Not for Profit sectors.

Mark Thompson
Partner
Taxation and Business Services

Mark joined MF Partners in 2002 after a change in his career path and became a Partner of the firm in 2019. Mark's team excel in knowledge and service to the Business Services division of the firm, providing tax and business advice to emerging family owned business clients in a diverse range of industries. Mark and his team are community focused and dedicated to delivering results to their clients. Mark is a Chartered Accountant.

Craig Cowan Partner Taxation and Professional Services Craig joined the firm in 1987, and is a specialist in the Taxation and Business Services division of the firm. He has worked at MF Partners for the majority of this time and spent 4 years in London working for Barclays Life Assurance, a division of Barclays Bank, and WestLB Panmure, a European growth Investment Bank. Craig and his team provide a proactive and customised service to a wide variety of business and taxation clients. With over 30 years experience in these fields, encompassing income tax, goods and services tax, business structuring and other taxes, Craig has a wealth of experience to offer his clients. Craig is a Chartered Accountant.

https://www.tpb.gov.au/tax-practitioner/tax-agent/20883025

Craig Cowan - Registration number 64769008​

https://au.linkedin.com/in/craig-cowan-22a5a876

https://www.tpb.gov.au/public-register?practitioner=64769008

NOT MUCH BUSINESS HAPPENING :

Cowan Craig in Ballina, Nsw 2478

www.accountantfirms.com.au

Mark Thompson - Registration number - 24780052​

https://www.tpb.gov.au/public-register?practitioner=24780052

( I actually found people, "listed above as partners" in the Ballina area - look a bit too young to me - but do a search and see what you think )


This looks more to be the age of someone Vern knows alongside AH - IMO

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https://download.asic.gov.au/media/1318507/ASIC_B22_05.pdf

"Corporations Law Section 491(2) NOTICE OF VOLUNTARY LIQUIDATION TWIN STAR PTY LIMITED A.C.N. 000 553 980 In a General Meeting of the abovenamed company, duly convened and held at Level 1, 95 Tamar Street, Ballina NSW 2478 on 27 May 2005 the following Special Resolution passed: That the company be wound up as a Members' Voluntary Liquidation and that the assets of the company may be distributed in whole or in part to the members in specie should the liquidators so desire. Dated this 27th day of May 2005 BRYAN W. J. MARRIOTT VERNON P. WARE Joint and Several Liquidators Marriott Foreman Chartered Accountants and Business Advisers Level 1, 95 Tamar Street, Ballina NSW 2478" BPN040152

https://au.linkedin.com/in/ian-foreman-2849a17a

Managing Director​

First Edition Properties​

https://www.sclqld.org.au/caselaw/QSC/2003/7

( this reminds me of another "Real Estate Agency" that also saw itself in the courts for almost the same reasoning... I will dig that one up too)

Australia Business Listing

www.aus61business.com

If you do a search of the name above it gives the address which was found back on thread 7 or 12 I think: Pretty sure Mrs Wattle found it but I cant remember sorry if otherwise!
49 Platypus Dr, Uralba NSW 2477

https://opencorporates.com/companies/au/629062120

Have a good read of this :

Clarendon Hill Investments Pty. Limited · 126 Platypus Drive, Uralba, AU-NSW, 2477, AU

Clarendon Hill Investments Pty. Limited (LEI# 254900IQTADOS57UVG23) is a legal entity registered with . The address is 126 Platypus Drive, Uralba, AU-NSW, 2477, AU.

opencorpdata.com

Managing Local Operating Unit (LOU)

5493001KJTIIGC8Y1R12 Bloomberg Finance L.P.

LOU Headquarters Address

731 Lexington Avenue New York New York 10022 United States

Bloomberg Finance L.P. · 731 Lexington Avenue, New York, US-NY, 10022, US

Bloomberg Finance L.P. (LEI# 5493001KJTIIGC8Y1R12) is a legal entity registered with . The address is 731 Lexington Avenue, New York, US-NY, 10022, US.

opencorpdata.com

https://www.dnb.com/business-directory/company-profiles.bloomberg_finance_lp.78f5f42f4f61e56355e1b4c98036ba8c.html

This Finance Company has come up before in searches, I just cant find at the moment. Anyone else remember it?



Great site to look up businesses:

Accountants and tax agents

Find out what role accountants and tax agents play when dealing with your finances. You can also learn how to make a complaint if something goes wrong.

www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au

Back to 49 Platypus Dr, Uralba NSW address above, that was found here last year :
owned by Key Principal: VERNON PAUL WARE

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Phone number: 0266286622 ( SO similar to old Verns number at MFPartners - 0266862622)


The phone number is listed to an earth moving company in Alstonville:

BN & JM Clements Earthmoving - 15 Panorama Dr, Alstonville NSW 2477, Australia

Get Address, Phone, Hours, Website, Reviews and other information for BN & JM Clements Earthmoving at 15 Panorama Dr, Alstonville NSW 2477, Australia.

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Bradley N & Janice M Clements in Alstonville

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Google Search

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Anyone else feeling sick?

There is person on socials attached to this address that buys and sells cars.....

 

[Lord Peter Flimsy]

Back in # 7 and #12 thread there is a lot of info on Ballina Coins and Clarendon - his mate Baz and dodgy accountant Vernon Ware - adddresses found and other links to companies ABN etc etc.



While the coin chat has resurfaced I found some more fascinating info about these companies - personally I think AH is still involved with these people and I found a connection to one of them and Alstonville.


Just posting these again with the 95 Tamar St Ballina address to Ballina Coins and Clarendon

Australia Business Listing

www.aus61business.com

ACN: 066294424

Historical details for ABN 44 066 294 424 | ABN Lookup

abr.business.gov.au

https://connectonline.asic.gov.au/RegistrySearch/faces/landing/panelSearch.jspx?searchText=066294424&searchType=OrgAndBusNm&_adf.ctrl-state=le05bcdk8_43

95 Tarmar St Ballina is also linked to the chartered accountant Ware here:

Cash Flow Forecasting, Estate Matters, GST Management, MF Partners, Ballina, NSW, Australia

www.mfpartners.com.au

MF Partners Chartered Accountants
Marriott Foreman Partners

Vernon Ware Partner Taxation and Business Services Vernon joined MF Partners in 1994 and became a partner in 1998. Vernon has a varied client base, both industry wise and geographically, and handles complex taxation issues for both individual and corporate clients. He has achieved major gains for clients through effective tax planning and a thorough knowledge of Capital Gains Tax concessions and business rollover relief. Vernon specialises in advice on business taxation, sale, acquisition and restructuring. Vernon is a Chartered Accountant.

Down on the right hand side you will see the contact details:

Level 1, 95 Tamar St Ballina, NSW, 2478

P (02) 6686 2622

The company also has another premises at

Suite 4, 128 Dangar St Armidale NSW 2350

Historical Records:

Historical details for ABN 72 452 312 664 | ABN Lookup

abr.business.gov.au

About Us , MF Partners , Ballina, NSW, Australia

www.mfpartners.com.au

Mark Charter Partner Audit, Assurance and Superannuation Mark joined the firm in 1996 and has developed the Audit and Assurance, Superannuation, Compliance and System Advisory divisions of the firm. He is responsible for the running of these services and ensuring the firms highly skilled team can be deployed to meet clients needs. Mark has been a registered company auditor since 1996, approved SMSF auditor since 2013 and also an authorised representative of the SMSF Advisers Network for providing superannuation advice. For over 27 years Mark has been servicing our varied clients in the Agri, Aged Care, Education and Not for Profit sectors.

Mark Thompson
Partner
Taxation and Business Services

Mark joined MF Partners in 2002 after a change in his career path and became a Partner of the firm in 2019. Mark's team excel in knowledge and service to the Business Services division of the firm, providing tax and business advice to emerging family owned business clients in a diverse range of industries. Mark and his team are community focused and dedicated to delivering results to their clients. Mark is a Chartered Accountant.

Craig Cowan Partner Taxation and Professional Services Craig joined the firm in 1987, and is a specialist in the Taxation and Business Services division of the firm. He has worked at MF Partners for the majority of this time and spent 4 years in London working for Barclays Life Assurance, a division of Barclays Bank, and WestLB Panmure, a European growth Investment Bank. Craig and his team provide a proactive and customised service to a wide variety of business and taxation clients. With over 30 years experience in these fields, encompassing income tax, goods and services tax, business structuring and other taxes, Craig has a wealth of experience to offer his clients. Craig is a Chartered Accountant.

https://www.tpb.gov.au/tax-practitioner/tax-agent/20883025

Craig Cowan - Registration number 64769008​

https://au.linkedin.com/in/craig-cowan-22a5a876

https://www.tpb.gov.au/public-register?practitioner=64769008

NOT MUCH BUSINESS HAPPENING :

Cowan Craig in Ballina, Nsw 2478

www.accountantfirms.com.au

Mark Thompson - Registration number - 24780052​

https://www.tpb.gov.au/public-register?practitioner=24780052

( I actually found people, "listed above as partners" in the Ballina area - look a bit too young to me - but do a search and see what you think )


This looks more to be the age of someone Vern knows alongside AH - IMO

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Browse over 10,000 businesses and service providers in the northern rivers directory. If you are a business or service you can add your listing for free

northernriversnow.com.au

https://download.asic.gov.au/media/1318507/ASIC_B22_05.pdf

"Corporations Law Section 491(2) NOTICE OF VOLUNTARY LIQUIDATION TWIN STAR PTY LIMITED A.C.N. 000 553 980 In a General Meeting of the abovenamed company, duly convened and held at Level 1, 95 Tamar Street, Ballina NSW 2478 on 27 May 2005 the following Special Resolution passed: That the company be wound up as a Members' Voluntary Liquidation and that the assets of the company may be distributed in whole or in part to the members in specie should the liquidators so desire. Dated this 27th day of May 2005 BRYAN W. J. MARRIOTT VERNON P. WARE Joint and Several Liquidators Marriott Foreman Chartered Accountants and Business Advisers Level 1, 95 Tamar Street, Ballina NSW 2478" BPN040152

https://au.linkedin.com/in/ian-foreman-2849a17a

Managing Director​

First Edition Properties​

https://www.sclqld.org.au/caselaw/QSC/2003/7

( this reminds me of another "Real Estate Agency" that also saw itself in the courts for almost the same reasoning... I will dig that one up too)

Australia Business Listing

www.aus61business.com

If you do a search of the name above it gives the address which was found back on thread 7 or 12 I think: Pretty sure Mrs Wattle found it but I cant remember sorry if otherwise!
49 Platypus Dr, Uralba NSW 2477

https://opencorporates.com/companies/au/629062120

Have a good read of this :

Clarendon Hill Investments Pty. Limited · 126 Platypus Drive, Uralba, AU-NSW, 2477, AU

Clarendon Hill Investments Pty. Limited (LEI# 254900IQTADOS57UVG23) is a legal entity registered with . The address is 126 Platypus Drive, Uralba, AU-NSW, 2477, AU.

opencorpdata.com

Managing Local Operating Unit (LOU)

5493001KJTIIGC8Y1R12 Bloomberg Finance L.P.

LOU Headquarters Address

731 Lexington Avenue New York New York 10022 United States

Bloomberg Finance L.P. · 731 Lexington Avenue, New York, US-NY, 10022, US

Bloomberg Finance L.P. (LEI# 5493001KJTIIGC8Y1R12) is a legal entity registered with . The address is 731 Lexington Avenue, New York, US-NY, 10022, US.

opencorpdata.com

https://www.dnb.com/business-directory/company-profiles.bloomberg_finance_lp.78f5f42f4f61e56355e1b4c98036ba8c.html

This Finance Company has come up before in searches, I just cant find at the moment. Anyone else remember it?



Great site to look up businesses:

Accountants and tax agents

Find out what role accountants and tax agents play when dealing with your finances. You can also learn how to make a complaint if something goes wrong.

www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au

Back to 49 Platypus Dr, Uralba NSW address above, that was found here last year :
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Phone number: 0266286622 ( SO similar to old Verns number at MFPartners - 0266862622)


The phone number is listed to an earth moving company in Alstonville:

BN & JM Clements Earthmoving - 15 Panorama Dr, Alstonville NSW 2477, Australia

Get Address, Phone, Hours, Website, Reviews and other information for BN & JM Clements Earthmoving at 15 Panorama Dr, Alstonville NSW 2477, Australia.

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Bradley N & Janice M Clements in Alstonville

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Google Search

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Anyone else feeling sick?

There is person on socials attached to this address that buys and sells cars.....

Brilliant research Mishy. There appears to be an even bigger and tangled web in this case. I do hope those who have the power to do so investigate all known associates. They’ve waited long enough.

 

[mishy66]

I still so want to hear her full story. Come on TLV.

She was the one who said he was Jewish. I know I’m one of a few that IMHO believes he might be which is why I would like to see his birth certificate and even then that might not be 100% proof of who he is.

She also told the story he recounted to her of him working at the British Embassy in Luxembourg as a secret agent, a tactic so often used by con-artists and no doubt used by him on more than one occasion to put the fear of God into some of his victims and so that they avoid contact with their families and close friends.

Yes me too!

Not convinced that MC was an innocent victim.

For me, it looks more like, he did something to her and her producing the letter was a get square. She had kept his mail all those years - funny thing to do when she says he was a liar and a scammer.

He swooned over her, didnt say a bad word against her up until towards the end of the day, when AC read the letter out he nearly passed out on the chair LOL!

BEST day ever that day when AC took his sweet time reading AH love letter to the world.