Australia Australia - Marion Barter - Missing After Trip to UK - June 1997 #19

[gymtonic]

Missing Person Marion Barter

Hmmm... , here's another bit of interest from JPC's letter:
"Willy never came to our house prior to 2008, but at the funeral of my aunt Emilienne he made a brief appearance. My wife still remembers his crocodile skin shoes. His brother drove him quickly to the airport afterwards."

2008: another trip
Brother: not FD obvs

 

[caitlincurious]

Totally!

And her!

It is great that the family of MC are speaking out now and outing this lying piece of -

It remains to be seen if his kids from Diane finally come forward now. IF they don't then they MUST have something to hide. They aren't children anymore - they have heard and read what he has done to so many women now and the lies he has told all his life - the rubbish he went on with at the inquest where he pretended he had a stutter that went away fully by the next day - how he stood up and moved unaided after he thought the camera was off him and how he was video taped saying Oh F888 at the police station all that time ago when they questioned him.

Everything he says is a lie. Even when faced with the testimonies of all of those brave women, stepping forward telling the world who this pig of a man is, including IK daughter bravely stepping up even though she was terrified of him all her life - everyone helping SL to find out what happened to Marion Barter .......he still said they are all liars.

NONE of these women had a chance with this monster.

He might not live for years, but he has left MdeH and DdeH, a lasting legacy of having to wear the coat of a lying, manipulating, womaniser, possibly a murderer, who thinks SO LITTLE of them, that he couldn't even give them his real surname - they have to carry his fake name for the rest of their lives and there is no escaping that. People will NEVER forget what he did, or them if they dont speak up now.


Cant imagine Alphonse meeting up with him either

Death of Monsieur Alphonse KAPRIELIAN (22/10/2011)

Death of Monsieur Alphonse KAPRIELIAN (22/10/2011). Pay tribute to those you loved and respected.

www.enaos.be

I am very interested in cousin Jean Pierre all the same - was he into cycling / bikes at one time?

You assume his children have a moral compass. Sadly, they are high flyers who want to protect their reputations. they could be just like RB.

 

[MrPickles]

What’s not lost on me is:
The name Florabella means ‘Beautiful Flower’
The surname Blum means ‘Flower’

 

[mishy66]

Totally!

You assume his children have a moral compass. Sadly, they are high flyers who want to protect their reputations. they could be just like RB.

No I dont assume they have.
Yes I know who their playmates are.

Yes totally , apple doesnt fall far from the tree.

 

[Podcast Tragic]

The Ch 7 Spotlight promo for Marion's case is claiming a possible 2nd murder linked to the case. I wonder if this is IK??

 

[Housemartyn]

I am certainly not taking sides here, purely an observation. I jumped over to the FB page and read the comments last night and this morning and noticed that the page was closed for "cleaning" several times, so I think they have deleted most of what you are referring to above.
I imagine it must be hard to run that FB group. Censorship is a very hard thing to keep up with if your page is open to all comments. I feel that they do a great job of weeding out the comments of people who cross the boundaries.
Have said this before and will say it again..... remember the common goal here is to find out what happened to Marion and to help Sally find answers. I understand your frustrations but sometimes we all need to take a big DEEP BREATH and remind ourselves why we are here in the first place... to nail this B#ST@RD.
In my eyes, you are all AMAZING!!!!! Don't lose sight of the common goal.

Totally agree. I think they do a really good job. They were merely trying to illustrate how ridiculous and unlikely RB's lies actually are. And when you put just one topic on the table the way they did it really does make his comments laughable.
I agree we all have one aim in mind. Justice for Marion and the rest of the ladies who were unfortunate enough to fall for his 'charade'

 

[Housemartyn]

What’s not lost on me is:
The name Florabella means ‘Beautiful Flower’
The surname Blum means ‘Flower’

Or even 'bloom' as the male host on the podcast keeps saying as well as mispronouncing Ghislaine's name ‍

 

[mishy66]

What’s not lost on me is:
The name Florabella means ‘Beautiful Flower’
The surname Blum means ‘Flower’

Yes this has been discussed for a long time - the meaning behind her name.

Who knows why he chose that name for her.

There's the Flowers.

There was a street named as such just near where she lived.

There was a pattern named Florabella that came from the Villeroy & Boch - Flora Bella was produced from 1990 to 1994 - a place that MC took AH apparently.

There is also the book Saul and the Spinster, a mystery crime novel set in Australia about corrupt NSW police, and a spinster who owned a shop by same name, who received letters saying her life is in danger, the disappearance of the woman, money being smuggled out of the shop. Written by Aidan de Brune - Wikipedia -

I can just imagine Dianes father having this book - he and his family being from Kalgoorlie

AH LOVES books as we know. - Gets lots of his ideas from them - (DON JUAN)

Then there is the Florabella Opera - which is something I am more drawn to, given his love of music, and a connection to another Opera Singer who lived in the UK.
I can imagine him swooning Marion with letters like he did MC - plagiarising words from books and music.

https://www.sheetmusicsinger.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/Florabella.pdf

Gems from "Flora Bella" : Victor Light Opera Company : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Performer: Victor Light Opera CompanyWriter: Milton E. SchwarzwaldOpening Chorus, You're the Girl; It's Very Hard to Bring up Father; Creep, Creep, the...

archive.org

His title song : "Creep, Creep, the World's Asleep!"

 

[MrPickles]

A con man/woman, coercive controller, gaslighter will always give true pieces of themselves thinking they are above the law. Accidental breadcrumbs. Been there.

 

[wallyworld]

It’s bad taste posting as far as Iim concerned. The fb page has just posted a circus we know he’s a liar we know he talks utter bs a post like that doesn’t rise above him. It’s a missing person page not a comedic p take.

I get the frustration god it’s brain frying listening to him tell tale after tale but seriously if a websleuther posted such a thing with IMAGES like that it would be removed immediately.

Not to mention that the image sources are most likely used without authority.

It’s bad taste Joni (incase you are reading this)

I thought posts like that had stopped we ALL remember the Whitehouse fail..

JMO
IMO

I look at these posts a little differently. IMO they have been suppressing their emotions and true thoughts for such a long time due to the impending inquest. I feel that now that the inquest is over and they are awaiting the findings they are letting off steam. This whole process has obviously been so very very frustrating for Sally and her team.
I hope that AKA AND HIS FAMILY are seeing all that is posted. Hopefully, he is living his own nightmare now that his past has finally caught up with him. He may not be in Jail (yet) but hopefully, he is suffering every day for his deceitful and disgusting behavior. I also hope his family are feeling the repercussions of the well-deserved attention that this case is finally getting as IMO they MUST know something and SHAME ON THEM if they have kept any secrets for him. I will eat my words if proven otherwise but his immediate family would certainly be aware that there was something amiss with his lifestyle.
The coming weeks will be interesting and let us all hope and pray that there is A LOT MORE going on behind the scenes that we are not yet privy to.
Keep up the good work everyone... let's see justice for both Marion and Sally.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

What’s not lost on me is:
The name Florabella means ‘Beautiful Flower’
The surname Blum means ‘Flower’

Thanks @MrPickles

I'd never actually looked at the surname Blum that way.

So thanks for pointing it out.

 

[KiwiNZ]

Thanks @MrPickles

I'd never actually looked at the surname Blum that way.

So thanks for pointing it out.

I prefer to drop the L in Blum

 

[Lord Peter Flimsy]

Yes this has been discussed for a long time - the meaning behind her name.

Who knows why he chose that name for her.

There's the Flowers.

There was a street named as such just near where she lived.

There was a pattern named Florabella that came from the Villeroy & Boch - Flora Bella was produced from 1990 to 1994 - a place that MC took AH apparently.

There is also the book Saul and the Spinster, a mystery crime novel set in Australia about corrupt NSW police, and a spinster who owned a shop by same name, who received letters saying her life is in danger, the disappearance of the woman, money being smuggled out of the shop. Written by Aidan de Brune - Wikipedia -

I can just imagine Dianes father having this book - he and his family being from Kalgoorlie

AH LOVES books as we know. - Gets lots of his ideas from them - (DON JUAN)

Then there is the Florabella Opera - which is something I am more drawn to, given his love of music, and a connection to another Opera Singer who lived in the UK.
I can imagine him swooning Marion with letters like he did MC - plagiarising words from books and music.

https://www.sheetmusicsinger.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/Florabella.pdf

Gems from "Flora Bella" : Victor Light Opera Company : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Performer: Victor Light Opera CompanyWriter: Milton E. SchwarzwaldOpening Chorus, You're the Girl; It's Very Hard to Bring up Father; Creep, Creep, the...

archive.org

His title song : "Creep, Creep, the World's Asleep!"

All are very credible reasons as to the Florabella name. I still feel it comes from the Villeroy & Boch Flora Bella collection you mention above. I wonder if Marion ever owned any of it? I’m sure AKA would have sniffed it out if she did and the Luxembourg connection would have tickled his fancy. Perhaps they could/should have asked AKA at the Inquest had he ever come across the Florabella name before, perhaps in Luxembourg?

 

[Lord Peter Flimsy]

I prefer to drop the L in Blum

He definitely is a Blum-Hole

 

[CuriousKat99]

“Creep, Creep, the World's Asleep!"

That would have been the perfect slogan for his “inheritance” business

 

[Mrs_Vee]

And why would you continually change your name...maybe to try and stay one step ahead of the law....that alone would add up to a lot of criminal activity IMO.

I could be way off track here but my thought is to divert any suspicion with border security?

 

[CuriousKat99]

I could be way off track here but my thought is to divert any suspicion with border security?

I’d say you are right on track.

 

[Mrs_Vee]

You can click on the three dots to edit, some write DBM (deleted by me). Happens sometimes.

Sorry for laughing… I’m laughing at myself. I thought DBM meant “dead brain moment” lol

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Sorry for laughing… I’m laughing at myself. I thought DBM meant “dead brain moment” lo

Actually that could sometimes fit when we post something, but rethink the wisdom of it.

There are times I've posted something, instantly regretted it, deleted it and would want to put CBB (couldn't be bothered)

 

[mishy66]

Ive been back looking at his old mate Fonzi aka Alphonse Kaprielian.
He drops these names in his BS stories like hot scones, so its interesting to me as to WHY. Why add a name into the mix, if its not been some part of his life.

I have found who I think could be the wife of Fonzi.
The son being a Master of Bujinkan who travels much of the time to Japan.

Is this the connection to JAL and AH never flying with them again.
Did Marion meet this man with AH?

Speculating.