Australia Australia - Marion Barter - Missing After Trip to UK - June 1997 #19

[Nnbee]

Did anyone change their view point on AHs wife after the latest podcast? Hearing the letter from the neighbour in Burwash was interesting.

 

[VisitorDog]

Did anyone change their view point on AHs wife after the latest podcast? Hearing the letter from the neighbour in Burwash was interesting.

Yes, it would make sense that she might be a victim vs complicit, although both are possible. I felt sad for her and the children based on it.

 

[Lord Peter Flimsy]

Did anyone change their view point on AHs wife after the latest podcast? Hearing the letter from the neighbour in Burwash was interesting.

There have been conflicting stories regarding DdeH’s character. The one Burwash witness account would be based on the family dynamic in the 1980s.

She may well be an innocent ‘victim’ in all this however she most definitely perjured herself very early on when questioned at the Inquest. Through fear or deception?

If she is a ‘victim’ then I would hope that her son & daughter, having surely witnessed their fathers behaviour over many years would come forward to protect their mother and place the blame fairly and squarely at their fathers door. Still waiting.

She is 12 years younger than the pathetic individual we see before us now. She may still have some misguided loyalty to this creature even now but I don’t think she can still use the excuse she is living in fear.

I would find it astonishing after 47 years of marriage if she turned a blind eye throughout and wasn’t aware of anything that was going on.

 

[mishy66]

There have been conflicting stories regarding DdeH’s character. The one Burwash witness account would be based on the family dynamic in the 1980s.

She may well be an innocent ‘victim’ in all this however she most definitely perjured herself very early on when questioned at the Inquest. Through fear or deception?

If she is a ‘victim’ then I would hope that her son & daughter, having surely witnessed their fathers behaviour over many years would come forward to protect their mother and place the blame fairly and squarely at their fathers door. Still waiting.

She is 12 years younger than the pathetic individual we see before us now. She may still have some misguided loyalty to this creature even now but I don’t think she can still use the excuse she is living in fear.

I would find it astonishing after 47 years of marriage if she turned a blind eye throughout and wasn’t aware of anything that was going on.

Agree @Lord Peter Flimsy
Not to mention their neighbour on the GC paints a very different picture of her.

He is atm in a home, an old man, the kids aren't kids but adults, who are witnessing every single thing written about him and listening to everything presented at the inquest, Diane isn't under his claw anymore if she ever was, can't use the excuse he will take the kids, YET still silence at Camp deH.

She has enjoyed her life of luxury while stealing from the Aust Government for decades, had no problem collecting her carer pension while he took numerous trips overseas every year by himself. Possibly enjoyed other peoples jewellery - still looking at the necklace she had on at MdeH wedding, that looked just as JO described, not too mention maybe furnishings for her homes everytime they moved.

It may be though that they are trying to paint the picture of Coercive control for years as a bargaining chip in order for her to spill the beans on him - otherwise she won't talk - another stalemate

They just need to get the deH kids on the stand and DdeH sister - be interesting to ask about Dianes mothers death and who was the informant on the death cert - name looks odd to me, AND the fathers.

1987 Woodenbong - Diane claimed they purchased a house at Woodenbong using Diane's inheritance, they still lived there in 1988 -

Her mother died Sept 1988 - and the father died January1987, they both lived in a unit prior to their death.
They went from years of living in wealthy suburbs to a unit and die 1.5 yrs apart.

On her death cert is states informant as someone who has a similar name to a family member BUT not written as such.

On her fathers death cert it also has his first wife "Peggy Unknown" - but her name was Dorothy and her Surname was known because the step brother of Diane and Penny is also on it and they know him under his step fathers name, (INCLUDING to this, it was AH himself that stated at the inquest Dianes brother and family visited them when in the UK - LONG before Robert Walker died))). Second wife "Margaret Lance"

Dianes mother was known as Peggy all her life, on censuses from the 40s, including her own parents, her marriage to the Dianes father, Dianes birth notice - ONLY when she was single she was known as Margaret Lance.

On his death cert it says years of "Ischaemia" - same thing IK dies from in 1977 - are there medicines for this that AKA had his hands on.

It also states the informant was was Peggys BIL - yet in his funeral notice it makes mention of Roberts OWN "loving sister" and her husband - why put his wifes sisters husband as informant???/ when they have all the adult children living so close by and Roberts OWN sister and her husband.


Within 2 years of the deH returning from overseas her father (age ~75) and mother (age ~67) both die.

For me, we have 3 death certs that make no sense in regard to who the informants were.

Ilona Kinczel
Robert Walker
Peggy Walker


YES, I know I give him NO SLACK - he gives me reason not to.


And anyone can fill out the death paperwork as no one asks for proof of ID on who is who.

Are the detectives and reporters on here looking into all this?????

 

[VisitorDog]

Agree @Lord Peter Flimsy
Not to mention their neighbour on the GC paints a very different picture of her.

He is atm in a home, an old man, the kids aren't kids but adults, who are witnessing every single thing written about him and listening to everything presented at the inquest, Diane isn't under his claw anymore if she ever was, can't use the excuse he will take the kids, YET still silence at Camp deH.

She has enjoyed her life of luxury while stealing from the Aust Government for decades, had no problem collecting her carer pension while he took numerous trips overseas every year by himself. Possibly enjoyed other peoples jewellery - still looking at the necklace she had on at MdeH wedding, that looked just as JO described, not too mention maybe furnishings for her homes everytime they moved.

It may be though that they are trying to paint the picture of Coercive control for years as a bargaining chip in order for her to spill the beans on him - otherwise she won't talk - another stalemate

They just need to get the deH kids on the stand and DdeH sister - be interesting to ask about Dianes mothers death and who was the informant on the death cert - name looks odd to me, AND the fathers.

1987 Woodenbong - Diane claimed they purchased a house at Woodenbong using Diane's inheritance, they still lived there in 1988 -

Her mother died Sept 1988 - and the father died January1987, they both lived in a unit prior to their death.
They went from years of living in wealthy suburbs to a unit and die 1.5 yrs apart.

On her death cert is states informant as someone who has a similar name to a family member BUT not written as such.

On her fathers death cert it also has his first wife "Peggy Unknown" - but her name was Dorothy and her Surname was known because the step brother of Diane and Penny is also on it and they know him under his step fathers name, (INCLUDING to this, it was AH himself that stated at the inquest Dianes brother and family visited them when in the UK - LONG before Robert Walker died))). Second wife "Margaret Lance"

Dianes mother was known as Peggy all her life, on censuses from the 40s, including her own parents, her marriage to the Dianes father, Dianes birth notice - ONLY when she was single she was known as Margaret Lance.

On his death cert it says years of "Ischaemia" - same thing IK dies from in 1977 - are there medicines for this that AKA had his hands on.

It also states the informant was was Peggys BIL - yet in his funeral notice it makes mention of Roberts OWN "loving sister" and her husband - why put his wifes sisters husband as informant???/ when they have all the adult children living so close by and Roberts OWN sister and her husband.


Within 2 years of the deH returning from overseas her father (age ~75) and mother (age ~67) both die.

For me, we have 3 death certs that make no sense in regard to who the informants were.

Ilona Kinczel
Robert Walker
Peggy Walker


YES, I know I give him NO SLACK - he gives me reason not to.


And anyone can fill out the death paperwork as no one asks for proof of ID on who is who.

Are the detectives and reporters on here looking into all this?????

Do we know whether wills are public information in Australia - as I believe they are in the UK? Beneficiary info might be interesting.

 

[HinterlandObserver]

Agree @Lord Peter Flimsy
Not to mention their neighbour on the GC paints a very different picture of her.

He is atm in a home, an old man, the kids aren't kids but adults, who are witnessing every single thing written about him and listening to everything presented at the inquest, Diane isn't under his claw anymore if she ever was, can't use the excuse he will take the kids, YET still silence at Camp deH.

She has enjoyed her life of luxury while stealing from the Aust Government for decades, had no problem collecting her carer pension while he took numerous trips overseas every year by himself. Possibly enjoyed other peoples jewellery - still looking at the necklace she had on at MdeH wedding, that looked just as JO described, not too mention maybe furnishings for her homes everytime they moved.

It may be though that they are trying to paint the picture of Coercive control for years as a bargaining chip in order for her to spill the beans on him - otherwise she won't talk - another stalemate

They just need to get the deH kids on the stand and DdeH sister - be interesting to ask about Dianes mothers death and who was the informant on the death cert - name looks odd to me, AND the fathers.

1987 Woodenbong - Diane claimed they purchased a house at Woodenbong using Diane's inheritance, they still lived there in 1988 -

Her mother died Sept 1988 - and the father died January1987, they both lived in a unit prior to their death.
They went from years of living in wealthy suburbs to a unit and die 1.5 yrs apart.

On her death cert is states informant as someone who has a similar name to a family member BUT not written as such.

On her fathers death cert it also has his first wife "Peggy Unknown" - but her name was Dorothy and her Surname was known because the step brother of Diane and Penny is also on it and they know him under his step fathers name, (INCLUDING to this, it was AH himself that stated at the inquest Dianes brother and family visited them when in the UK - LONG before Robert Walker died))). Second wife "Margaret Lance"

Dianes mother was known as Peggy all her life, on censuses from the 40s, including her own parents, her marriage to the Dianes father, Dianes birth notice - ONLY when she was single she was known as Margaret Lance.

On his death cert it says years of "Ischaemia" - same thing IK dies from in 1977 - are there medicines for this that AKA had his hands on.

It also states the informant was was Peggys BIL - yet in his funeral notice it makes mention of Roberts OWN "loving sister" and her husband - why put his wifes sisters husband as informant???/ when they have all the adult children living so close by and Roberts OWN sister and her husband.


Within 2 years of the deH returning from overseas her father (age ~75) and mother (age ~67) both die.

For me, we have 3 death certs that make no sense in regard to who the informants were.

Ilona Kinczel
Robert Walker
Peggy Walker


YES, I know I give him NO SLACK - he gives me reason not to.


And anyone can fill out the death paperwork as no one asks for proof of ID on who is who.

Are the detectives and reporters on here looking into all this?????

As I’ve not dealt with anything like this personally, what exactly is an “informant”?
We’re they at the place when the person passed?

 

[mishy66]

As I’ve not dealt with anything like this personally, what exactly is an “informant”?
We’re they at the place when the person passed?

They are usually a family member who give all the details of the person who died on a form then it gets typed up on the Death Cert and filed away in the State Dept of BDM, never to be seen again unless people do Gen trees or someone in the family requests it. The BDM certs become open to the public for anyone to obtain, after so many decades - each one has its own time requirement.
I bet AH never ever expected anyone would ever catch him, so he wouldn't have thought about people digging into the background of the people he knew decades ago.

He has never come up against someone like Sally Leydon who has never let up on the disappearance of Marion.

If it wasn't for SL, no families would have been any the wiser to his lying thieving misogynist ways. His hatred for his own birth mother has led this life of crime IMO

 

[Brown Alleycat]

Agree @Lord Peter Flimsy
Not to mention their neighbour on the GC paints a very different picture of her.

He is atm in a home, an old man, the kids aren't kids but adults, who are witnessing every single thing written about him and listening to everything presented at the inquest, Diane isn't under his claw anymore if she ever was, can't use the excuse he will take the kids, YET still silence at Camp deH.

She has enjoyed her life of luxury while stealing from the Aust Government for decades, had no problem collecting her carer pension while he took numerous trips overseas every year by himself. Possibly enjoyed other peoples jewellery - still looking at the necklace she had on at MdeH wedding, that looked just as JO described, not too mention maybe furnishings for her homes everytime they moved.

It may be though that they are trying to paint the picture of Coercive control for years as a bargaining chip in order for her to spill the beans on him - otherwise she won't talk - another stalemate

They just need to get the deH kids on the stand and DdeH sister - be interesting to ask about Dianes mothers death and who was the informant on the death cert - name looks odd to me, AND the fathers.

1987 Woodenbong - Diane claimed they purchased a house at Woodenbong using Diane's inheritance, they still lived there in 1988 -

Her mother died Sept 1988 - and the father died January1987, they both lived in a unit prior to their death.
They went from years of living in wealthy suburbs to a unit and die 1.5 yrs apart.

On her death cert is states informant as someone who has a similar name to a family member BUT not written as such.

On her fathers death cert it also has his first wife "Peggy Unknown" - but her name was Dorothy and her Surname was known because the step brother of Diane and Penny is also on it and they know him under his step fathers name, (INCLUDING to this, it was AH himself that stated at the inquest Dianes brother and family visited them when in the UK - LONG before Robert Walker died))). Second wife "Margaret Lance"

Dianes mother was known as Peggy all her life, on censuses from the 40s, including her own parents, her marriage to the Dianes father, Dianes birth notice - ONLY when she was single she was known as Margaret Lance.

On his death cert it says years of "Ischaemia" - same thing IK dies from in 1977 - are there medicines for this that AKA had his hands on.

It also states the informant was was Peggys BIL - yet in his funeral notice it makes mention of Roberts OWN "loving sister" and her husband - why put his wifes sisters husband as informant???/ when they have all the adult children living so close by and Roberts OWN sister and her husband.


Within 2 years of the deH returning from overseas her father (age ~75) and mother (age ~67) both die.

For me, we have 3 death certs that make no sense in regard to who the informants were.

Ilona Kinczel
Robert Walker
Peggy Walker


YES, I know I give him NO SLACK - he gives me reason not to.


And anyone can fill out the death paperwork as no one asks for proof of ID on who is who.

Are the detectives and reporters on here looking into all this?????

Terrific work mishy66! I always look forward to your comments. You really do put a lot of work into researching!

 

[Lord Peter Flimsy]

As I’ve not dealt with anything like this personally, what exactly is an “informant”?
We’re they at the place when the person passed?

In the UK it’s just the person who reports the death. They don’t need to be the person witnessing the death.

I won’t go into detail but the informant to one of my elderly relatives deaths encouraged him to move from his home of many years to live with her in her hotel, away from his family. 15 years later when researching this I discovered (after finding her name on the death certificate) she had fleeced him and bought a big house and had a wedding in the months following his death. She was 50 years younger than him. The Police weren’t interested due to the time lapse.

 

[KinseyFan]

Agree @Lord Peter Flimsy
Not to mention their neighbour on the GC paints a very different picture of her.

He is atm in a home, an old man, the kids aren't kids but adults, who are witnessing every single thing written about him and listening to everything presented at the inquest, Diane isn't under his claw anymore if she ever was, can't use the excuse he will take the kids, YET still silence at Camp deH.

She has enjoyed her life of luxury while stealing from the Aust Government for decades, had no problem collecting her carer pension while he took numerous trips overseas every year by himself. Possibly enjoyed other peoples jewellery - still looking at the necklace she had on at MdeH wedding, that looked just as JO described, not too mention maybe furnishings for her homes everytime they moved.

It may be though that they are trying to paint the picture of Coercive control for years as a bargaining chip in order for her to spill the beans on him - otherwise she won't talk - another stalemate

They just need to get the deH kids on the stand and DdeH sister - be interesting to ask about Dianes mothers death and who was the informant on the death cert - name looks odd to me, AND the fathers.

1987 Woodenbong - Diane claimed they purchased a house at Woodenbong using Diane's inheritance, they still lived there in 1988 -

Her mother died Sept 1988 - and the father died January1987, they both lived in a unit prior to their death.
They went from years of living in wealthy suburbs to a unit and die 1.5 yrs apart.

On her death cert is states informant as someone who has a similar name to a family member BUT not written as such.

On her fathers death cert it also has his first wife "Peggy Unknown" - but her name was Dorothy and her Surname was known because the step brother of Diane and Penny is also on it and they know him under his step fathers name, (INCLUDING to this, it was AH himself that stated at the inquest Dianes brother and family visited them when in the UK - LONG before Robert Walker died))). Second wife "Margaret Lance"

Dianes mother was known as Peggy all her life, on censuses from the 40s, including her own parents, her marriage to the Dianes father, Dianes birth notice - ONLY when she was single she was known as Margaret Lance.

On his death cert it says years of "Ischaemia" - same thing IK dies from in 1977 - are there medicines for this that AKA had his hands on.

It also states the informant was was Peggys BIL - yet in his funeral notice it makes mention of Roberts OWN "loving sister" and her husband - why put his wifes sisters husband as informant???/ when they have all the adult children living so close by and Roberts OWN sister and her husband.


Within 2 years of the deH returning from overseas her father (age ~75) and mother (age ~67) both die.

For me, we have 3 death certs that make no sense in regard to who the informants were.

Ilona Kinczel
Robert Walker
Peggy Walker


YES, I know I give him NO SLACK - he gives me reason not to.


And anyone can fill out the death paperwork as no one asks for proof of ID on who is who.

Are the detectives and reporters on here looking into all this?????

Wow. Just wow. Thank you @mishy66

 

[Estelle]

Agree with all the above - although I’m not sure it could be proven that MB did not see and or respond to the 1994 ad. I have never liked the coincidence that MB’s wallet was stolen the same year the love bomber is out on the prowl. All speculation.

I still find it hard to believe that it’s MB doing these withdrawals. I know and understand her vulnerability, but surely by her return to Australia she’s smelling a massive rat in the drain pipe. (I do believe she did in fact return to Australia - but he didn’t even travel with her, his wife or soon to be wife - that’s a long flight for MB to really consider what she’s been up to, particularly after just speaking to Sally) she likely come at him that he was conning her when he insisted on her withdrawing her funds in amongst all these clandestine activities he’s been putting her up to for 6 months- All the while he’s still insisting she’s not to contact her children. MB was a strong family woman. I cannot imagine that sitting well with her. 6 months of playing games with her - I sense that is when it all went pear shaped for, dear Marion - prior to that first bank withdrawal. Did she find out he was a married man with children? She likely threatened to call the police or insisted on seeing her own children while back in Australia. He couldn’t allow that.

By 1998 with GGB, he’s changed and fine tuned his MO. He’s realised he needs to get to the money first - not the big trip first, then the money. That’s where he stuffed up with MB. Doing the trip first. 6 months with MB was far too long. She had become awake to being stooged. He knows he needs to speed things up. Get the money and get out of there. Or get the money then dump them OS.

Once again. Speculation.

I agree with all your thoughts here. I am still open to their first contact being in 1994 and for some reason, they did not follow up on it. I am also open to believing that MB did not return to Australia and died somewhere in Europe - perhaps Amsterdam.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Peggy (given name) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Origins of the Name Peggy​

The name Peggy is a diminutive form of the name Margaret which originates from ancient Greece. The name Margaret means “pearl” and was popularized by Saint Margaret of Antioch who was martyred in the 4th century. Margaret became a common name in medieval Europe and over time, nicknames for the name began to develop, including Peg and Peggy.

 

[MrPickles]

I agree with all your thoughts here. I am still open to their first contact being in 1994 and for some reason, they did not follow up on it. I am also open to believing that MB did not return to Australia and died somewhere in Europe - perhaps Amsterdam.

I’ve always wondered why he made up the rubbish story of Lucerne in 68. Perhaps it was only to paint a false impression that MB was loose and available anytime. Where a con man usually comes undone is in telling bits of the truth within a lie. Hence why the stolen wallet has always been intriguing to me. Likely coincidental - maybe not if there’s another woman close to the family involved.

Highly possible MB never returned. Passenger cards - outgoing and incoming are easy to acquire pre flight and during a flight. Someone being a world traveler could easily talk another into pre filling them out. But it means we have an unknown someone else involved to take MB’s flight who is not DdeH. I just have the sense he’s too greedy to share his payday. Not out of the question though.

 

[Lord Peter Flimsy]

I wonder why AKAs daughter ER didn’t give evidence at the inquest? It would have been fascinating to watch him call his own daughter a liar.

I also wonder at what point his other daughter MdeH realised she had a half sister and that the mother to her half sister had died young in strange circumstances?

 

[Lord Peter Flimsy]

I’ve always wondered why he made up the rubbish story of Lucerne in 68. Perhaps it was only to paint a false impression that MB was loose and available anytime. Where a con man usually comes undone is in telling bits of the truth within a lie. Hence why the stolen wallet has always been intriguing to me. Likely coincidental - maybe not if there’s another woman close to the family involved.

Highly possible MB never returned. Passenger cards - outgoing and incoming are easy to acquire pre flight and during a flight. Someone being a world traveler could easily talk another into pre filling them out. But it means we have an unknown someone else involved to take MB’s flight who is not DdeH. I just have the sense he’s too greedy to share his payday. Not out of the question though.

He undoubtedly read it online that Johnny Warren & Marion had come to the UK in the Autumn of 1968 and could build a false narrative around it.

At the time she was of course Marion Warren. He would have had some difficulty tracking her down again nearly 30 years later under another name even had this story been true. The answering of Marion’s supposed lonely hearts ad made his story appear even more ridiculous.

As we know his radar is only alerted when he knows a woman is divorced or widowed.

JMO but I still believe the first meeting was at the Arts Centre where he possibly spotted her having a coffee on her own. I doubt it takes him long to get round to the subject of marital status and property owning.

 

[mishy66]

Wow. Just wow. Thank you @mishy66

I wish I could attach all the info but I dont think its allowed

 

[mishy66]

I’ve always wondered why he made up the rubbish story of Lucerne in 68.

IMO this boils down to JWarrens friend GY.
AH wasnt there in 1968, but he heard a story and added it to be his own. Just like he does with every other story.

Would love to post more about this, but waiting to see what unfolds in the future

 

[caitlincurious]

OMG! spotlight on channel 7 this Sunday - link to another murder revealed!

 

[mishy66]

I wonder why AKAs daughter ER didn’t give evidence at the inquest? It would have been fascinating to watch him call his own daughter a liar.

I also wonder at what point his other daughter MdeH realised she had a half sister and that the mother to her half sister had died young in strange circumstances?

Yes this interests me too @Lord Peter Flimsy
When the channel 7 news posted a short advert stating a bombshell drop prior to the last inquest, it showed a snippet of a younger looking female silhouette and because it was reporting on the upcoming inquest, it looked to be connected to that.
Then as we saw the inquest finished up fairly early, not long after AH shot himself in the foot by declaring Marion wanted nothing to do with her family. Right there, IMO is the rope they needed.

So it wouldn't surprise me that we see this younger looking female that 7 portrayed in the advert, now on this Sunday Spotlight.

Cant image it will be MdeH

But whoever it is, it's going to be great because it will reach a much larger audience, many of whom have never heard of the case.

 

[Estelle]

Responding to myself here to present a further picture of my thoughts. We get to know MB a lot via SL in TLV. What I’ve tried to do is view life through M’s lens. To walk a mile in her shoes.

In brief we have a wonderful mother, a caring and highly regarded teacher, a loving family woman.
She’s cultured, intelligent, well read, well liked, and immaculately dressed. She’s a fine woman who loves the finer things in life. MB is adored by nearly all who knew her.

We’ve also been made aware she was going through troubled times at TSS. She was devastated in regards to unfounded allegations. We know she was very vulnerable and had a relationship with RB.

Then the bizarre begins. Resignation, rushed house sale under priced, secretive, name change etc etc. All the things we know in a very harried and out of character manner. There’s no doubt this woman was under a lot of pressure to get an enormous amount done in very little time.

Her outgoing passenger card has her change of name and states she’s moving to LUX. Permanently.

In the UK she’s writing cards, letters and posting birthday gifts. By her cards and letters it seems she’s at least spent a fair amount of time on her own - while someone else is doing his usual, off attending to business, buying a house, a yacht, a school - or planning a wedding. Who knows! Life far away from TSS seems pretty grand. MB is about to go on the journey of a lifetime on the OE, to see Van Gogh - to get married and spend a life in beautiful LUX.

Next minute - for reasons unknown she is returning to Australia. This is where I’d like to think the penny starts to drop a little for her. She is an intelligent woman.

- She’s had a tough few months.
- She’s turned her life upside down.
- Changed her name.
- Been in a secret relationship.
- Obviously been told not to tell her children ‘let’s surprise them’ (we know this story)
- Like the others, she really knows nothing of this man who is mostly absent in their relationship.
- She speaks to her daughter who she obviously misses a great deal - tells her plans have changed. OE journey is cancelled for the time being - and that SL might not hear from her for awhile.
- No doubt a tough call to blatantly lie to her daughter. Could this be the moment the cogs begin to turn for MB.? Who really is this clandestine lover who I rarely see who wants me to return to Australia.

* It’s a long flight back - Plenty of time to think. Has MB already been forewarned that she’s to return to Australia to withdraw her life savings? A woman who only months before had prepared a new will leaving her daughter as sole beneficiary.

If I were in MB’s shoes - the first thing I would insist on my arrival home is to speak to my children and get their thoughts and advice on any plans to purchase a school (or whatever the money was for)

It’s 8 days between MB’s return and her optometrist appointment in Grafton (if it was in fact MB who attended this appointment)

It would take 16 business days to withdraw $80,000 in $5,000 increments. I cannot grasp that the woman we have got to know so very well spent 10 and half weeks (of a 8 day trip as in her passenger card) in Australia before the final withdrawal of $80,000 was made with absolutely no contact with her family. Only two days prior to her son’s birthday. Particularly when we know that AKA never spends much time with his subjects. That no one at all known to her never spotted MB in BB, Burleigh or surrounding areas that MB lived for a few years. Why choose the BB bank within 30 minutes proximity to Wollongbar - Would AKA seriously risk being seen within a bulls roar of the places he has lived in for so many years in the company of a woman who it not his wife. Why wouldn’t the withdrawals be done at a CBA in Brisbane were she flew in.

I could go on and on, but here’s a brief summary of why I can’t get my head around it being Marion who withdrew the money.

Again I agree with you. Thanks