Australia Australia - Marion Barter - Missing After Trip to UK - June 1997 #20

[mishy66]

I believe Jack Wilson, Marion’s Father was told via the Salvo’s that MB told a teller/manager in Ashmore she was moving onto a new life. He was also ‘apparently’ told MB was annoyed SL hadn’t transferred payment of funds for the red Honda MB left with SL.

The BB teller was a ‘Johnny come very lately’ who gave evidence at the inquest. Her story: after being told by friends about the podcast re: a bank she worked at in 1997 and a missing woman - claimed she had zero interest in listening to - saw a reward billboard for $500,000 and recognised MB immediately (25 years later) as an airy fairy strange named woman moving to Bali to start a new life. Zero cred.

yes but you said the teller said Marion was moving to Lux - LUX wasnt in the equation until 2019
The recent BB teller - who was married to a BB policeman - said M told her she was moving to Bali

 

[Brown Alleycat]

Pretty sure Sally said Marion didn't have a computer and didn't know how to use one

She may have had an email address set up for her at TSS for school reasons that she may have been able to access externally.

 

[MrPickles]

After arriving at Brisbane Airport 2nd August Marion would have completed her eight day stay at the Novotel on the 10th of August, the day before the car was bought by AH. The car salesman confirmed he sold the Mitsubishi to AH on 11th August.

7 August RACQ insurance cancelled - by phone
Her Medicare card used at optometrist 13 August

The Bank Security Officer was the one who told the Salvos who in turn told her family that Marion was upset that Sally hadn't put in the payment for the red car. It was found much later that the bank had no Security Officer.
AH waiting for the cash to drop before the withdrawal. JMO of course.

13 AUGUST – MB MEDICARE CARD USED AT GRAFTON

18 AUGUST - WITHDRAWALS AT BYRON BAY BANK - BB police never investigated the CBA dealings
$5000 - withdrawn daily for 3.5 weeks at Commonwealth Byron, and 3 days in middle at Burleigh Heads totaling between $85k to $120k

21 September - AH doesnt turn up to do his job at the swim meet


15 OCTOBER - 80K final withdrawal at Ashmore - Marion's account where the house payment went into.

So lots of trips between Grafton, bank Byron, then Bank at Burleigh Heads, then back to Byron, then to Colonial Bank at Ashmore for someone who had no access to a car when she supposedly left the Novotel on the 10th August.

20 OCTOBER 1997 - SL reports Marion as a missing person at BB police station.


* as you say you deal with facts only but you include an unsubstantiated female assistant who has been under coercive control to be the one withdrawing the funds???*

We too deal with facts - have done so since 2019 - when they come to be revealed, but in the meantime we speculate on what other things could come into play with what sleuths find

Evidence based. DdH’s evidence was loose and evasive - deer in the headlights style for a reason.

Do you really imagine that anyone who lives with a clear woman hater has had a great life? There’s 1,000’s of examples of women who lead a very cruel life and never leave under threat. There’s victim evidence in abundance he is that man who has a very thin veil for a very short time. Re: coercive control. I’m not suggesting she’s innocent of a lot more knowledge.

 

[MrPickles]

yes but you said the teller said Marion was moving to Lux - LUX wasnt in the equation until 2020
The recent BB teller - who was married to a BB policeman - said M told her she was moving to Bali

Where did I say the teller said she was moving to Lux? I didn’t.

Lux was on the passenger cards.

 

[mishy66]

Where did I say the teller said she was moving to Lux? I didn’t.

Lux was on the passenger cards.

"It would seem to all, including Sally, that the teller in Ashmore had the right story. She had left to begin a new life in LUX."

Australia - Australia - Marion Barter - Missing After Trip to UK - June 1997 #20

That's just your opinion. As WS's we are allowed to have our own theories too:) I dont think SL ever said she believed the bank teller :) I’m keeping both options open. Both theories have their merits IMO and it would be premature to discard either at this point. Hopefully the unknown paper...

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Mrs Wattle replied to it.

 

[MrPickles]

Yeah no one said Marion left to begin her new life in Lux.
and it was on her license not her PP re the gender.

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If you’ve provided SL with valuable evidence - I truly commend you. Well done.

Where is Marion, right?

 

[MrPickles]

Wait. I thought M for male was on the driver's licence for Florabella.

I stand corrected. Thank you, MW.

 

[Martinie]

It all ended up as cash in RBs pocket. IMO

I just meant that if they could tell that it was electronically transferred, then what was it's destination? I know ultimately it ended up with him in cash, but if they knew it was transferred electronically, there should be able to determine the destination? I suppose tech wasn't really good back then.

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

I just meant that if they could tell that it was electronically transferred, then what was it's destination? I know ultimately it ended up with him in cash, but if they knew it was transferred electronically, there should be able to determine the destination? I suppose tech wasn't really good back then.

I personally find it hard to believe that a bank does not have a record of this transaction - it may well be filed in archives or on microfiche somewhere but ought not be too difficult to trace surely?

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Do banks destroy records after a certain amount of time has passed ?

 

[M0nnyka]

It’s AKA’s evidence that MB placed an ad. So far it has not been confirmed to be the truth. MB told SL that she met ‘the man in the car’ at the Arts Centre. This could in fact be the truth of it. The Arts Centre is a mighty fine place to scout out vulnerable victims.

Was that the Bundall arts centre?

 

[KiwiNZ]

@TootsieFootsie I thought it was 7years they held information for

 

[Housemartyn]

Case report: fatal poisoning with Colchicum autumnale - PMC

Colchicum autumnale, commonly known as the autumn crocus, contains alkaloid colchicine with antimitotic properties. A 76-year-old man with a history of alcoholic liver disease and renal insufficiency, who mistakenly ingested Colchicum autumnale ...

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Just reading about poisoning with this treatment for gout. Listening to a podcast where someone was poisoned using this.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

This awful story has so many twists and turns, it's hard to remember every detail that everyone who was ever mentioned said.

I would say it's impossible unless you are some kind of memory genius.

Like those who have Hyperthymesia

Hyperthymesia is an ability that allows people to remember nearly every event of their life with great precision.


Or spend 24 hours a day keeping notes of it all, right down to the smallest detail.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

And what about that case where the husband poisoned his wife through her eye drops.

She died

 

[MrPickles]

"It would seem to all, including Sally, that the teller in Ashmore had the right story. She had left to begin a new life in LUX."

Australia - Australia - Marion Barter - Missing After Trip to UK - June 1997 #20

That's just your opinion. As WS's we are allowed to have our own theories too:) I dont think SL ever said she believed the bank teller :) I’m keeping both options open. Both theories have their merits IMO and it would be premature to discard either at this point. Hopefully the unknown paper...

www.websleuths.com

Mrs Wattle replied to it.

It would SEEM to SL - the Salvo’s had it right at that time - but dog at a bone daughter does not let go. It doesn’t sit right - LATER - it’s found MB was moving to LUX. Dog at a bone girl was correct.

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[Bibno]

I cannot remember the date of the postcard, But MB’s Aunty or Sister did receive a handwritten postcard post stamped in Tunbridge Wells in August (august 13th is in my head, could be wrong) after Marion’s return to Australia.

I could be mixing up some details but I think it was SL’s cousin from Japan who forwarded it on to S after the podcast had started.

So if the blank postcard is correct on the 30th - there were 2 posted after MB’s return. From a woman telling her daughter she wouldn’t hear from her for a little while. Hmm.

I made a note ages ago that Marion’s sister Dierdre received the postcard postmarked 30 August Tonbridge. I remember there was a lot of discussion about it on here, but it was a long time ago. I don’t know that the postcard was blank, I think it might have been that the contents was not shared.

 

[Housemartyn]

And what about that case where the husband poisoned his wife through her eye drops.

She died

Yes. I did see that. It made me think it would be quite easy.

 

[MrPickles]

@TootsieFootsie I thought it was 7years they held information for

That is what my cba bank manager friend informed me. 7 years.

So much evidence lost from a listed ‘occurrence’ not a missing persons file. A calamity of errors.

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

@TootsieFootsie I thought it was 7years they held information for

7 years is usually how far back you can go in a financial legal claim against someone. I don't know why seven years. I personally cannot believe that banks destroy any records, most especially not data that would have been computerised by that time.