Found Deceased Australia - Melissa Caddick, 49, Sydney, NSW, 12 Nov 2020 #6

[SouthAussie]

Instead of AK or MC booking the accommodation or car, could AG have used somebody else's licence or credit card or his own?
Could he have been the one to have driven MC to her hiding place or used another car even or the 4 x 4?

I realise the objection from some of you will be that AG was angry with AK for not reporting MC was missing on the day she went and he was angry with AK at the presser. But IMO he could have lied about this and acted angry with AK but they were actually in cahoots?

What would you do in this situation if a family member needed help even if they are accused of fraud? At least you would offer to hide her surely? I also say this as AK seemed to be more friendly than I expected with her parents and AG about a month later when he was filmed visiting them. Also the day after the raid, her family would not have known or realised that they were also her victims.

I remember a situation where Karen Ristevski's brother, Stephen, stayed tight with Borce Ristevski. We all wondered why. When it seemed so obvious that Borce had something to do with Karen's disappearance.

Turns out that he stayed close so he could monitor Borce. Potentially pick up any bits and pieces. Not be on the outer. Once Borce was arrested ... boom ... that was it. The families were completely divided.

Karen's aunt also pretended to be close to Borce for a while. She attended a public appeal and sort of defended him. Later she expressed her disgust that Karen was discarded like a piece of rubbish.

 

[JLZ]

What would you do in this situation if a family member needed help even if they are accused of fraud? At least you would offer to hide her surely?

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Make her a meal. Help her locate a good solicitor. Take the running of the house off her hands. Make her feel loved.

 

[SLouTh]

A colleague is definitely not an employee.

A colleague is someone you work with at your job. When you are a teacher, the other teachers are your colleagues. When you work as a cashier at 7-11, the guy at the deli counter is your colleague as well.
colleague - Dictionary Definition

The 20 year person worked with Melissa.
The other person is called another colleague.

Neither of them were Melissa's employees.

We shall see what comes out in the wash .....

I am quite sure I have read that Melissa had 2 part time employees..... I think in this case the media has used the wrong word.....

Not sure the Police would interview someone, who did "mundane filing" with Melissa 20years ago, for 5 hours....

Happy to disagree on this point and not mention it again, and by the way, I know the definition of colleague vs employee, a tad insulting.....

 

[BlueViolet]

Could the employees be the chef and the cleaner?

 

[JLZ]

We shall see what comes out in the wash .....

I am quite sure I have read that Melissa had 2 part time employees..... I think in this case the media has used the wrong word.....

Not sure the Police would interview someone, who did "mundane filing" with Melissa 20years ago, for 5 hours....

Happy to disagree on this point and not mention it again, and by the way, I know the definition of colleague vs employee, a tad insulting.....

BBM. These two women are also victims so that's one subject for the police to have been interviewing them about. Is it possible one of them was also the licence holder? That would take time to probe. And the working together might have been at the time of the cheque forging, so that's something else to talk about. Even if Melissa was in her 'very compliant' phase, worth just asking her co-workers their experience.

There were the entries in the accounts saying wages and two sets of initials. But that might have been Melissa's fantasy or a deliberate misdirection.

 

[minime9]

We shall see what comes out in the wash .....

I am quite sure I have read that Melissa had 2 part time employees..... I think in this case the media has used the wrong word.....

Not sure the Police would interview someone, who did "mundane filing" with Melissa 20years ago, for 5 hours....

Happy to disagree on this point and not mention it again, and by the way, I know the definition of colleague vs employee, a tad insulting.....

I’m sure I read it too, that these part time employees worked for Maliver & one of them opted to have their pay put into their super fund instead.

Unfortunately I haven’t been able to find the reference either. I’ll post it if I manage to find it again.

 

[SLouTh]

Could the employees be the chef and the cleaner?

They were in addition to the persons that did the filing.... from my understanding and extensive reading on the case ....

 

[minime9]

Instead of AK or MC booking the accommodation or car, could AG have used somebody else's licence or credit card or his own?
Could he have been the one to have driven MC to her hiding place or used another car even or the 4 x 4?

I realise the objection from some of you will be that AG was angry with AK for not reporting MC was missing on the day she went and he was angry with AK at the presser. But IMO he could have lied about this and acted angry with AK but they were actually in cahoots?

What would you do in this situation if a family member needed help even if they are accused of fraud? At least you would offer to hide her surely? I also say this as AK seemed to be more friendly than I expected with her parents and AG about a month later when he was filmed visiting them. Also the day after the raid, her family would not have known or realised that they were also her victims.

No I wouldn’t offer to help hide them. I’d assist in getting them a good lawyer & offering other support in any way possible.

If I truly believed believed that person was innocent I’d be encouraging them to fight it all the way, not hide. If I believed they were guilty I’d still be telling them to get a good lawyer but to also cooperate with the authorities, assist in funds being returned & I’d be encouraging her to plead guilty so she got a lesser jail term, especially considering she has a child.

Then again I have a moral compass. It’s difficult to comprehend why someone would help her hide if they thought she was innocent.

 

[minime9]

No I wouldn’t offer to help hide them. I’d assist in getting them a good lawyer & offering other support in any way possible.

If I truly believed believed that person was innocent I’d be encouraging them to fight it all the way, not hide. If I believed they were guilty I’d still be telling them to get a good lawyer but to also cooperate with the authorities, assist in funds being returned & I’d be encouraging her to plead guilty so she got a lesser jail term, especially considering she has a child.

Then again I have a moral compass. It’s difficult to comprehend why someone would help her hide if they thought she was innocent.

To add to this the only reason you’d help someone hide is if you were a) stupid and blind or b) involved even if it were at arms length. I think 2 people in the case can fall into either category.

 

[SLouTh]

I’m sure I read it too, that these part time employees worked for Maliver & one of them opted to have their pay put into their super fund instead.

Unfortunately I haven’t been able to find the reference either. I’ll post it if I manage to find it again.

Ms Caddick’s meticulous organisation, confidence and penchant for the finer things in life all contributed to a facade of success that tricked even her colleagues.

Last week, investigators at Bondi Police Station interviewed for more than five hours a woman who previously worked with Ms Caddick.

The woman first met Ms Caddick 20 years ago when she was working at Wise Financial Services, and ended up in an administrative role alongside her.

The job largely involved filing documents but the woman had no idea Ms Caddick was allegedly forging financial statements and duping clients – including herself.

Melissa Caddick’s documents were shredded as ASIC started investigation | Daily Telegraph

 

[minime9]

Ms Caddick’s meticulous organisation, confidence and penchant for the finer things in life all contributed to a facade of success that tricked even her colleagues.

Last week, investigators at Bondi Police Station interviewed for more than five hours a woman who previously worked with Ms Caddick.

The woman first met Ms Caddick 20 years ago when she was working at Wise Financial Services, and ended up in an administrative role alongside her.

The job largely involved filing documents but the woman had no idea Ms Caddick was allegedly forging financial statements and duping clients – including herself.

Melissa Caddick’s documents were shredded as ASIC started investigation | Daily Telegraph

Yes I saw that which could explain it, but I also read something about super as well.

 

[SouthAussie]

We shall see what comes out in the wash .....

I am quite sure I have read that Melissa had 2 part time employees..... I think in this case the media has used the wrong word.....

Not sure the Police would interview someone, who did "mundane filing" with Melissa 20years ago, for 5 hours....

Happy to disagree on this point and not mention it again, and by the way, I know the definition of colleague vs employee, a tad insulting.....

My apologies that you felt a tad insulted. For the life of me, I couldn't work out why these women were being referred to as employees when the article quite clearly referred to them as colleagues.
I thought perhaps the meaning of colleague was not clear to everyone.

 

[SLouTh]

Yes I saw that which could explain it, but I also read something about super as well.

Another colleague said she believed her wages were being paid into a superannuation fund worth about $700,000.

On Pg 26 of this thread...

 

[SLouTh]

My apologies that you felt a tad insulted. For the life of me, I couldn't work out why these women were being referred to as employees when the article quite clearly referred to them as colleagues.
I thought perhaps the meaning of colleague was not clear to everyone.

All cool.... I think one can be both an employee, while at the same time being a colleague, with your boss.

ETA Perhaps the media were looking for an "accomplice" when they referred to them as colleagues???

 

[JLZ]

Ms Caddick’s meticulous organisation, confidence and penchant for the finer things in life all contributed to a facade of success that tricked even her colleagues.

Last week, investigators at Bondi Police Station interviewed for more than five hours a woman who previously worked with Ms Caddick.

The woman first met Ms Caddick 20 years ago when she was working at Wise Financial Services, and ended up in an administrative role alongside her.

The job largely involved filing documents but the woman had no idea Ms Caddick was allegedly forging financial statements and duping clients – including herself.

Melissa Caddick’s documents were shredded as ASIC started investigation | Daily Telegraph

Thank you for finding that. I don't really know what to make of it. On the one hand it sounds like they were both working for someone else after Wise. (Why say "alongside" if it was really for?) But on the other hand it's implied that the job was contemporaneous with Melissa's forging and duping, in which case the woman was probably working for Melissa at Maliver or at a prior dishonest enterprise. It might be sloppy writing and the truth is that the job (years ago, after Wise) involved filing documents and the woman (later, during Maliver) had no idea that Melissa was forging and duping clients including herself. (Like, obviously. But make it interesting.) It's all in the paragraphing and the "but".

 

[minime9]

Another colleague said she believed her wages were being paid into a superannuation fund worth about $700,000.

On Pg 26 of this thread...

Thank you.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Hey let's all be friends!

And share this lovely cake I made. Oops sowwy! I forgot I ate it all

 

[BlueViolet]

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Just to add, in the press conference, brother said Melissa is a good sister to me. Obviously nothing had been revealed to them yet about the finances.

 

[SouthAussie]

But maybe I don't think like a professional accountant/auditor. Maybe I don't know enough about the profession to comment.

An auditor does a completely different job. An auditor follows the whole trail to make sure everything is kosher, and makes recommendations if things are not in sync.

In this case, I think an auditor would look for the client's deposit, ensure that it went to the superannuation portfolio, make sure there was required reporting to the client and to whomever else requires it, make sure any funds coming out go back to the client, make sure Melissa was only taking her .75%.

I would say that Melissa's accounts were never audited. Probably the ATO would be responsible for that, but they only do spot auditing. Targetting certain types of industry each year (on a changing annual basis), companies whose returns fall outside the benchmark for their business, and various others.

 

[SLouTh]

Just to add, in the press conference, brother said Melissa is a good sister to me. Obviously nothing had been revealed to them yet about the finances.

Or they were still in denial about the financial situation???