Found Deceased Australia - Melissa Caddick, 49, Sydney, NSW, 12 Nov 2020 #6

[Estelle]

This is the ‘community’ that she may have trusted or may have silenced and stolen from MC. I would guess these persons or person would have been in her social media pages. Someone not yet known that insisted back then that she delete all traces of them from her online presence...

However, even though a person deletes their Facebook account, police can gain access and then interview any persons of interest.

 

[Mr Murphy]

However, even though a person deletes their Facebook account, police can gain access and then interview any persons of interest.

How to Delete Your Facebook Account Permanently
"When you delete your account, Facebook permanently removes it. Facebook says the deletion process typically takes about one month although “some information may remain in backup copies and logs for up to 90 days.”""

 

[Estelle]

for sure many people do dodgy dealings with equally dodgy people and then pay with their lives for it. In this case i was leaning towards running away or suicide due to her disappearing so close to the time of the raid occuring and the pressure of a court appearance. wouldnt leave you feeling too comfortable knowing what everyone is about to find out you did!

If I were MC, and had been doing any dodgy dealings with anyone, the last people I would tell about the raid would be those people.

However, if in trouble, the only people I would tell about the raid is my family and ask them to drive me to a hideaway. Just after the raid, they did not know that they were also victims and despite finding out later, one would assume that they would be the only ones interested in my welfare.

If her family was in the know about where MC was hiding away, they would not disclose it to others. If MC was murdered, how would these people who had done dodgy dealings with MC find out where she was hiding away? The whole of Australia was looking out for her.

I am still open to whether MC committed suicide or was murdered later.

 

[Estelle]

Is there a link to footage of the raid?

Only the 60 Minutes interview which you have probably watched by now.

 

[Estelle]

What do we know about SalesXecution?

Date? She would become the managing director of SalesXecution, a self-described “nationally recognised thought leader in the convergence of social media, sales performance and marketing”. SalesXecution was streets ahead of the humble computer skills of the Grimleys, boasting a decade of “working with emerging internet communication … world class sales and marketing leaders”.

By 2013, however, SaleXecution was retreating into the background in favour of Melissa Caddick’s new company Maliver, a name believed to be based on that of a family member.

Melissa Caddick: How con artist left behind humble start for luxury lifestyle (news.com.au)

 

[minime9]

Minime9, that was exactly my train of though and my lines inquiry. When I pursued this theory on another group thread, all of my posts were deleted and I was warned not to proceed . I was followed. Admin messages to me on that issue were deleted in real time. Our conclusion, someone is monitoring posts, probably everywhere. From my own personal investigations I am a strong believer in what you have suggested, I would exclude family members on both sides. On a personal level, I dont know where to go with this inquiry, its just my honest opinion. If she did go down the path of ripping the wrong person off, or couldn't repay a debt, her days were numbered. IMOO. Just as she had fake documentation, others have fake addresses and details. IMOO.

Yes it’s quite suss.

One thing I will say... that NY apartment is allegedly a lie. I’m not so sure, she might not have owned it but I think she has connections here that also have connections in the US.

This is the ‘community’ that she may have trusted or may have silenced and stolen from MC. I would guess these persons or person would have been in her social media pages. Someone not yet known that insisted back then that she delete all traces of them from her online presence...

Maybe, but probably not. The social media part.

 

[BlueViolet]

Is there a link to footage of the raid?

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At abt the 15 minute mark.

 

[Estelle]

Date? She would become the managing director of SalesXecution, a self-described “nationally recognised thought leader in the convergence of social media, sales performance and marketing”. SalesXecution was streets ahead of the humble computer skills of the Grimleys, boasting a decade of “working with emerging internet communication … world class sales and marketing leaders”.

By 2013, however, SaleXecution was retreating into the background in favour of Melissa Caddick’s new company Maliver, a name believed to be based on that of a family member.

Melissa Caddick: How con artist left behind humble start for luxury lifestyle (news.com.au)

IMO, SalesXecution seems to have been based in the US. Perhaps MC met Steve while skiing at Aspen and she asked him if she could establish a branch in Sydney in 2012 or earlier. Otherwise, MC could have worked online for him. However, this company does not seem to have been in the financial services industry so probably MC lost interest and saw self-employment and Maliver as giving her a better opportunity to make some decent money.

Otherwise, as we do not know where this SalesXecution history was found, this entry could have been a faked addition to her Linked-in Profile or resume to fill up a gap in her career history. MC probably thought that Steve would never find out as this company was based in the US.

 

[Trooper]

How do you put a caveat on a property in NSW?

Step 1 : Engage a solicitor or conveyancer to prepare a caveat for electronic lodgment, or download and complete the caveat form and relevant exception form in hard copy.
Step 2: Lodge caveat and relevant exception form in person at NSW LRS and pay fee, or electronically through your solicitor or conveyancer.

It’s vitally important to understand that only a person who has a caveatable interest is entitled to lodge a caveat or to instruct their lawyer to lodge a caveat on their behalf.

Likewise, with any real estate transaction, it is best to have the caveat lodged by a lawyer so that advice can be obtained as to whether a caveatable interest actually exists, whether there are any contractual prohibitions on the lodging of a caveat, and whether further registrations to be made on the caveator’s behalf may be affected (a carelessly lodged caveat could prevent a purchaser’s own Transfer of Land from being registered or cause a lender to refuse to provide funds on settlement day).

While it is best to have a caveat lodged by a solicitor, an individual can also place one themselves. It costs about $100.

A caveat is merely a notice of claim which may or may not be a valid one.

The validity of the claim must be determined at some stage.

There are two main procedures to remove a caveat and in each case, a caveator must be prepared to incur considerable expense to prove their interest in the property if they do not want the caveat to be removed. They are:

• Removal by Application to the Registrar General
• Removal by Order of the Supreme Court

In both instances, the caveator will be obliged to commence court proceedings or defend proceedings to prove their caveatable interest.

The costs of these court proceedings will usually follow the event, which effectively means that if you are unsuccessful in proving a caveatable interest the costs will be claimed from you.

This has the potential to amount to liability to pay costs in the tens of thousands of dollars.

What Is a Caveat On a Property and How to Lodge One

All of this is correct. But there are drawbacks, as one would expect, in pursuing that line of action.

The parents are filing caveats, on the very shaky ground that they currently hold possession of the property. Now.. politely, the Receiver is awaiting the April ruling as to who will be the permanent Receiver ( at a nice fat rate ). .they don't have to wait , but in light of the very genuine grief that family is in the grip of, it's a well mannered position to take.

However. The family does not own the apartment. They only reside in it, and that residence was totally at the discretion of Melissa, now presumed dead, and that right to residence has evaporated. It evaporated on her death, and on the discovery that she fiddled the books. Two events that nail the door shut on the family. They are not shooting off caveats every 30 days from their apartment.. they are illegally occupying a property that is in 'the hands of the court appointed Receiver'.

Melissa's name is on the title. Not theirs. They say they contributed, but it seems obvious to me that there is no paper trail for that claim, otherwise, only PART of that property would be in the hands of the Receiver, and those filed documents re the case do not state this.

I don't doubt that they did contribute, but that was after the purchase, which I am positive Melissa made to have Mum and Dad real handy to sonny's school, while she zipped hither and yon, NY, Aspen, Honkers, London, etc. It's a short busride away from his school. He could even walk it, on a fine day.

The awful part about this, once they file that caveat, on the sole grounds that they are living there, illegally or not, is.. nothing is out of bounds now. They do not even own the locks on the doors, and they cannot both go out together. . Once they do that, the Receiver can notify the Sherriff ( yes, he is attached to the court and he enforces the payments of fines etc ) .. and the Sherriff can pull up with a truck and empty the place on forced entry.

This sounds terrible but it is what happens.

It is appalling that these people were left in this circumstance, and it is not credible that Mellissa didn't know the exact path that these circumstances would lead to, there was , in fact, no other path that could be gone down, except for mum and dad leaving the place the moment they knew the extent of the embezzlement. They have chosen not to do this, though. .

 

[Estelle]

Before this news came out about the parents placing a caveat on the Edgecliff property recently, there was an article in the media stating that MC's parents were "investors" too. Most of us assumed then that they had given MC money to invest in shares. A Lawyer/Receiver/Liquidator then made the comment that they would have to provide documentation to prove this. We assumed that this had not been done at the time. About three months later, we are now being told that this is really about the caveat and that they see themselves as "investors" in the Edgecliff apartment.

 

[stormbird]

What do we know about SalesXecution?

I don't know anything about SalesXecution, but there was a post by Websleuther @bancam in now-deleted thread 2 explaining that it would have been easy for Melissa to establish a phony link between companies on her profile (or I'm thinking it could also have happened accidentally if the site added a same-named US company as her link and she didn't check it).

ABN Lookup has details about Cadley Consulting Pty Ltd:
- its ABN (Australian Business Number) was active from 05 Oct 2004, cancelled 25 March 2019;
- main business locations were in NSW postcodes 2021 (Paddington?), 2221 (Kensington?), 2033 (Rose Bay?), and 2030 (Dover Heights?);
- and there's a link to ASIC records which show the company was deregistered on 30 Jan 2019, information which was previously posted by @SLouTh, also in now-deleted thread 2.

 

[minime9]

If I were MC, and had been doing any dodgy dealings with anyone, the last people I would tell about the raid would be those people.

However, if in trouble, the only people I would tell about the raid is my family and ask them to drive me to a hideaway. Just after the raid, they did not know that they were also victims and despite finding out later, one would assume that they would be the only ones interested in my welfare.

If her family was in the know about where MC was hiding away, they would not disclose it to others. If MC was murdered, how would these people who had done dodgy dealings with MC find out where she was hiding away? The whole of Australia was looking out for her.

I am still open to whether MC committed suicide or was murdered later.

2 ways the dodgy operators could have found out (before the press did)

1. Chinese whispers via investor who found out at the dentist.

2. Inside information through ASIC or AFP.

 

[BlueViolet]

2 ways the dodgy operators could have found out (before the press did)

1. Chinese whispers via investor who found out at the dentist.

2. Inside information through ASIC or AFP.

Maybe chinese whispers around Dover Heights on the day of the raid as the police vehicles would have been parked outside her house for 12+ hours ...7am to 7pm?

 

[OwlHeart]

Only the 60 Minutes interview which you have probably watched by now.

No actually. I don't watch t.v but I guess I can make an exception.

It's not tv if it's on my phone...

I'm being a bit juvenile, I actually bought a tv back in Dec. Only used it twice, cartoons for my pet when he was sick.
Thanks.

 

[OwlHeart]

Maybe chinese whispers around Dover Heights on the day of the raid as the police vehicles would have been parked outside her house for 12+ hours ...7am to 7pm?

ASIC the flea infested watchdog, they have been known to send press release drafts to the people they're about to raid to see if the draft is "legally sound", or, as a heads up no doubt.

 

[OwlHeart]

2 ways the dodgy operators could have found out (before the press did)

1. Chinese whispers via investor who found out at the dentist.

2. Inside information through ASIC or AFP.

Who was the dentist? This guy?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...KhAC&usg=AOvVaw09Pme5ErmztJjTLrxqGGpu&ampcf=1

 

[HelloJohnny]

No, there was no legal firm named, only that they had placed three caveats on the Ocean Street apartment between November and February, to stop it being sold.
The liquidators have also placed a caveat on the Edgecliff apartment (as well as the Dover Heights home).

In the Grimley's caveat they say that they contributed to 'part of the purchase price' when Melissa bought it, therefore they have an interest in the apartment.

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Hi SouthAussie
Just wondering are you aware if any mortgages and/or encumbrances are listed on the title documents for either property?

I’d be very surprised if MC has borrowed against at least one of the properties.

 

[ClottedCream]

All of this is correct. But there are drawbacks, as one would expect, in pursuing that line of action.

The parents are filing caveats, on the very shaky ground that they currently hold possession of the property. Now.. politely, the Receiver is awaiting the April ruling as to who will be the permanent Receiver ( at a nice fat rate ). .they don't have to wait , but in light of the very genuine grief that family is in the grip of, it's a well mannered position to take.

However. The family does not own the apartment. They only reside in it, and that residence was totally at the discretion of Melissa, now presumed dead, and that right to residence has evaporated. It evaporated on her death, and on the discovery that she fiddled the books. Two events that nail the door shut on the family. They are not shooting off caveats every 30 days from their apartment.. they are illegally occupying a property that is in 'the hands of the court appointed Receiver'.

Melissa's name is on the title. Not theirs. They say they contributed, but it seems obvious to me that there is no paper trail for that claim, otherwise, only PART of that property would be in the hands of the Receiver, and those filed documents re the case do not state this.

I don't doubt that they did contribute, but that was after the purchase, which I am positive Melissa made to have Mum and Dad real handy to sonny's school, while she zipped hither and yon, NY, Aspen, Honkers, London, etc. It's a short busride away from his school. He could even walk it, on a fine day.

The awful part about this, once they file that caveat, on the sole grounds that they are living there, illegally or not, is.. nothing is out of bounds now. They do not even own the locks on the doors, and they cannot both go out together. . Once they do that, the Receiver can notify the Sherriff ( yes, he is attached to the court and he enforces the payments of fines etc ) .. and the Sherriff can pull up with a truck and empty the place on forced entry.

This sounds terrible but it is what happens.

It is appalling that these people were left in this circumstance, and it is not credible that Mellissa didn't know the exact path that these circumstances would lead to, there was , in fact, no other path that could be gone down, except for mum and dad leaving the place the moment they knew the extent of the embezzlement. They have chosen not to do this, though. .

You have beautifully detailed here, my earlier thinking when I asked HOW they had managed to file caveats....surely no lawyer, given what IS known could walk them down this path in good faith??? Obviously they could file personally or via a faithful friend conveyancer trying to help. However they’ve been filed, the risk seems huge. Based on form, MC’s penchant for fake documents likely means anything the parents ‘think’ they might have to support their claim isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on.
my heart absolutely breaks for the parents

 

[minime9]

Maybe chinese whispers around Dover Heights on the day of the raid as the police vehicles would have been parked outside her house for 12+ hours ...7am to 7pm?

Yeah maybe, but her actual neighbours in the street didn’t really know her

 

[TootsieFootsie]

And whatever Melissa did, she was their daughter who in their eyes looked after them and they would be grieving for her, and for their grandson who has lost his mother.

my heart absolutely breaks for the parents