Found Deceased Australia - Melissa Caddick, 49, Sydney, NSW, 12 Nov 2020 #6

[Trooper]

Estelle, do you know anything more about the people saying hello to Melissa when they were in Rose Bay? I've been wondering how often Melissa was at home. One report said that she occasionally went to Perth to meet up with investors. (Hypothetically, maybe she had a "fly in, fly out" lifestyle with home offices in different places around the country?) Did the people at the barbecue mean that Melissa was often in Rose Bay somewhere - in the street, in cafes, etc. - and they just randomly ran into her (which would mean she was often going out to places locally, but wasn't elsewhere around Australia)? Or did they go to visit her (in which case they could have arranged a time when she was not away)? Thanks.

Melissa lived in Rose Bay for about 2 years, after her divorce, I think. Certainly, around that time. I never saw her,, I don't recall it, anyway.... but my Chinese eye surgeon neighbor ( who lives in Rose Bay ) says she was the woman he had what he referred to as a 'confrontation' over a parking bay, which he says, he gave ground and let her have her way, because he concluded she was 'disconcerting'.. his word..

I gave him my interrogatory look, but he ducked it beautifully, and said no more on the subject..

According to her bank statements, EFTPOS< etc, she shopped quite regularly at Rose Bay, using the banks, the supermarket, etc.. right up till she disappeared. Not during my shopping hours,obviously.. I would not have forgotten that face easily.

 

[Estelle]

Estelle, do you know anything more about the people saying hello to Melissa when they were in Rose Bay? I've been wondering how often Melissa was at home. One report said that she occasionally went to Perth to meet up with investors. (Hypothetically, maybe she had a "fly in, fly out" lifestyle with home offices in different places around the country?) Did the people at the barbecue mean that Melissa was often in Rose Bay somewhere - in the street, in cafes, etc. - and they just randomly ran into her (which would mean she was often going out to places locally, but wasn't elsewhere around Australia)? Or did they go to visit her (in which case they could have arranged a time when she was not away)? Thanks.

This couple only saw MC in the shops at Rose Bay and she always said hello to them but that is where it stopped.

 

[Estelle]

I must say that I am very interested in why AK's father has inserted himself into this case. On the surface, it appears that he is protecting his and his company's reputation. Let's face it he has only met MC on four or five occasions and MC cut of ties with him and his family fairly early on. So is he also trying to protect his son as well? RK referred to him as "delusional".

At times, I feel sorry for AK and at other times, I have felt that AK might have had something to do with at least hiding MC or even causing her demise.

At other times, I wonder whether he has suffered from narcissistic emotional abuse.

 

[minime9]

I must say that I am very interested in why AK's father has inserted himself into this case. On the surface, it appears that he is protecting his and his company's reputation. Let's face it he has only met MC on four or five occasions and MC cut of ties with him and his family fairly early on. So is he also trying to protect his son as well? RK referred to him as "delusional".

At times, I feel sorry for AK and at other times, I have felt that AK might have had something to do with at least hiding MC or even causing her demise.

At other times, I wonder whether he has suffered from narcissistic emotional abuse.

He’s stepped in partially due to defamation on his name & business. Apparently he doesn’t really have a lot to do with AK.

 

[Trooper]

I must say that I am very interested in why AK's father has inserted himself into this case. On the surface, it appears that he is protecting his and his company's reputation. Let's face it he has only met MC on four or five occasions and MC cut of ties with him and his family fairly early on. So is he also trying to protect his son as well? RK referred to him as "delusional".

At times, I feel sorry for AK and at other times, I have felt that AK might have had something to do with at least hiding MC or even causing her demise.

At other times, I wonder whether he has suffered from narcissistic emotional abuse.

In all fairness, it's hardly Mr. Koletti Snr. fault that his family name is in the headlines.. particularly since it is common knowledge that Anthony , at Melissa's urging, cut off all ties to his family. They have no choice but to respond, in this instance, really, considering Mr . Koletti, the elder, is a CPA, himself. Not just him , but by association, his entire profession is on the nose. .
I take it that he was , himself , inserted into this case by his son being completely oblivious to his own wife's criminal activity of long standing. That takes some kind of deliberate compartmentalization, of a particular sort, Anthony appears to have it down to a fine art. But his father doesn't have to wear that kind of label.

His labelling of his own son as 'delusional', is, on it's face a very fair assessment. Unarguable, I would say, and very generous, as well. The alternative, that his son was complicit ( which is the only alternative ) would be dreadful.

 

[Trooper]

According to the timeline, Melissa was well and truly into forging financial documents before she met Anthony. Only to find out that this young guy she had plans for had a father who was a Certified Public Accountant.

What would a narcissist do in those circumstances??.. remove the son from the father's influence and advice , persuade the son it's in his interests to sail her ship with her onto bigger and better things, and cut the line to his family PDQ.

 

[minime9]

In all fairness, it's hardly Mr. Koletti Snr. fault that his family name is in the headlines.. particularly since it is common knowledge that Anthony , at Melissa's urging, cut off all ties to his family. They have no choice but to respond, in this instance, really, considering Mr . Koletti, the elder, is a CPA, himself. Not just him , but by association, his entire profession is on the nose. .
I take it that he was , himself , inserted into this case by his son being completely oblivious to his own wife's criminal activity of long standing. That takes some kind of deliberate compartmentalization, of a particular sort, Anthony appears to have it down to a fine art. But his father doesn't have to wear that kind of label.

His labelling of his own son as 'delusional', is, on it's face a very fair assessment. Unarguable, I would say, and very generous, as well. The alternative, that his son was complicit ( which is the only alternative ) would be dreadful.

Absolutely. Between his son being involved & trial by Facebook groups what choice did he have?

 

[BlueViolet]

He might have been contacted by the provisional liquidator about the JP signatures? How would he have found out otherwise? You would certainly want to clear that matter up asap.

 

[Brissie Sleuth]

The Feds rock up early in the morning, ASIC one step behind them. Dawn. At home, Melissa, Anthony and the kid. Melissa pulls on a pair of running leggings, a singlet top and a pair of particular shoes. What Anthony gets clobbered up in is unknown, at present.

The Feds do their thing, they tell Melissa someone tipped them off, they lay out the process they are going to instigate, they take equipment, papers, camera's , lap tops, IPads, what have you. They inform Melissa that the jig is up, her fraud and scamming days are over, all is known , and all will be revealed in tomorrow's newspapers, which means the 'investors', ( now known as victims ) are about to have their lives shattered, and Melissa's lifetime of lying exposed.

Trucks will be arriving to remove assets, nothing is to be removed except by the AFP.

ASIC / AFP leave, apparently, for reasons that defy reason, ( to me ) they remove the innards of the security camera on the front porch. The story is, they want to examine who came to the house, when common sense would tell anyone that what was going to be coming and going from now on would be more relevant.. but I digress. .

Anthony says, they had a normal day and night. ( this cannot be true. For a hundred reasons ) . They, according to Anthony have a small party that night, one that had been arranged. ( I doubt this ) .. ok. its night, the day is over, the party is over, and everyone goes to bed to gather strength for another day.

At 5/30am around there, the son hears the front door open, or close, or both. That's all. Doesn't see Mum, doesn't hear Mum but assumes Mum is going for her run, dressed in the gear, especially , the same shoes she had on the day before when the raid by AFP took place. They filmed these exact shoes.

So .. Anthony and , I presume, the son, wait around, for Mum to come back. 30 hours pass.. Anthony does a little tour of the Eastern suburbs beauty spots, where they liked to go. Nothing is seen of Melissa.

That's all Anthony said he did. Who did he ring? was it him that told the brother of their impending doom? did Melissa do that phone call before she went on the run?> . Did the brother come galloping over from Edgecliffe to find out just what was going on, what's going to happen to elderly mum and dad, what about him, he's sixty, the dogs, what about the dogs . Can't they sell the Aspen apartment?? bad news about that.... What about his 1% share in the mumanddad's apartment? .

Who else was rung and told the awful news? People must have been told ..

It is difficult to believe that everybody just sat around , silent, thinking about, oh.. what to wear, and what to have for lunch. A huge life changing bomb has just gone off in their lives, who did they ( anthony and the bro ) consult, try and get comfort from, advice from, help from??? ..

a lot hasnt been revealed at least to the public. police only let on a tiny portion of what they know.

 

[Trooper]

a lot hasnt been revealed at least to the public. police only let on a tiny portion of what they know.

Naturally. everybody knows this, because this is not only ASIC but AFP and NSW Police.. not the most forthcoming of law enforcement agencies at the best of times. .. but what they DID tell, is astonishing.

The most astonishing thing was, that without any back and forth and 'on the other hand' and 'to be fair'...all those phrases that NSW police are notorious for, they stated , clearly, without equivocation, that Melissa was a forger, a fraudster, a scammer , a thief, and they had the proof that brooked no argument about it, thanks very much, ladies and gentlemen.

I still think the oddest part of all this was the smiling vagueness of Det. Insp. Atkins on the 60 mins thing. Added to this, the complete absence of any passion and/or grief either from the police, or her family, or her husband on the woman's utter disappearance into thin air. Very odd indeed.

 

[Trooper]

What would a normal financial advisor do, having met the man of her dreams and finding out his father is a CPA?>> one would join forces, what a combo , with advantage to both parties, plus the doted-upon husband/son. The CPA gets her business sent on for his scrutiny, and she gets a CPA at beck and call, because it's all in the family.

But if you are a forger, and a fraud, and you intend to be that for the rest of your working life you cut off every avenue to a real CPA as quickly as possible, even if it is your father in law. Particularly if it's your father in law. That's easy, you only have to whisper day and night into the husbands ear. It's done all the time. It's a particularly narcissistic trait, honed from early childhood.

 

[Brissie Sleuth]

I have to admit that I didn't know, until recently that the Ponzi scheme was named after a real person.
A Ponzi scheme (/ˈpɒnzi/, Italian: [ˈpontsi]; also a Ponzi game is a form of fraud that lures investors and pays profits to earlier investors with funds from more recent investors. The scheme leads victims to believe that profits are coming from legitimate business activity (e.g. product sales and/or successful investments), and they remain unaware that other investors are the source of funds. A Ponzi scheme can maintain the illusion of a sustainable business as long as new investors contribute new funds, and as long as most of the investors do not demand full repayment and still believe in the non-existent assets they are purported to own.

In the 1920s, Charles Ponzi carried out this scheme and became well-known throughout the United States because of the huge amount of money that he took in. His original scheme was based on the legitimate arbitrage of international reply coupons for postage stamps, but he soon began diverting new investors' money to make payments to earlier investors and to himself.[6] Unlike earlier, similar schemes, Ponzi's gained considerable press coverage both within the United States and internationally both while it was being perpetrated and after it collapsed – this notoriety eventually led to the type of scheme being named after him.

Ponzi scheme

yes these ponzi schemes are so popular even though they are known to crash at some time or another... just watch the show american greed..countless real ponzi schemes!

 

[BlueViolet]

And they don’t seem to think they have done anything wrong. Apparently, Madoff asked Trump for a pardon.

 

[Brissie Sleuth]

There was also a development application lodged in 2019 to MCs local council for the property for proposed alterations to the attic in the house which leads to the terrace but it was withdrawn.

Terms and Conditions


House layout below from when the house was up for sale last time.
https://www.realestate.com.au/sold/property-house-nsw-dover+heights-116233291

 

[PrimeSuspect]

I haven't followed this thread/case closely but I'm interested in the outcome, as rotten as MC was, I don't like the idea of anyone getting away with her murder, if it wasn't suicide.

MC most likely qualifies for having one or more Cluster B disorders, she wasn't diagnosed by a psychologist while she was alive, so this is just purely guess work gathered from her past actions and perceived traits.

I watched the 60 minutes episode. Her former friend and victim, Michelle, says at the end, MC's a narcissist, an evil woman, a dirty rotten scoundrel. She spoke directly to the camera because she believed MC would be watching and said, 'I can't wait to see you in a jail cell'.

Unfortunately, she won't have the satisfaction of seeing this happen. MC has had the last word, her dirty deeds are final, she won't have to be held accountable or face the music, she's been unmasked, this is devastating for a narcissist! For certain individuals, it is, do or die!
She may have even been defiant at the end, she deserved that money and lifestyle, it's not her fault they're gullible, it wasn't right she'd have a life (sentence)in the suburbs, a nobody, she's a somebody! No prison, real or imagined, even if she built it herself.
I don't think anyone truly knew her, or she, them, narcissists are unfathomable to others and themselves.

This is why I'm leaning to it being a suicide, her victims were friends and family, she would've had no one on her side, pathological narcissists need constant validation and support, emotionally, they're like children, if she'd ripped off a huge corporation or institution, she'd have that support, there'd be countless sympathetic 'reasons' for her thieving, people wishing her well and even congratulating her brillance for defrauding a big faceless company but, she stole from ordinary folk, the men and women who worked hard for those dollars, who wanted and deserved a good return for a comfortable retirement.

MC could've met with foul play but unless NSWPOL have information we're not privy to, without a body and only a washed up shoe with bone fragments, it'd be hard to prove. JMO

 

[SLouTh]

He might have been contacted by the provisional liquidator about the JP signatures? How would he have found out otherwise? You would certainly want to clear that matter up asap.

RK didn't appear to know about the JP Signatures until he was confronted about it by T Steinforte on 60mins, where he said it wasn't his signature..... but I dare say there might be an affidavit now regarding that....
JMO

 

[SLouTh]

I also wonder what other creditors are on the list to be paid by the liquidators?

At first, I was thinking just the Investors and the Mortgages..... however there may also be others?
What other accounts hadn't been paid at the time of the raid?? And how much the is total liability worth??

 

[SouthAussie]

I also wonder what other creditors are on the list to be paid by the liquidators?

At first, I was thinking just the Investors and the Mortgages..... however there may also be others?
What other accounts hadn't been paid at the time of the raid?? And how much the is total liability worth??

The liquidators themselves are not going to be cheap. They have been working on this for months, and will likely be working on it for more months. And they will be paid very early in the piece, and/or will reserve their anticipated costs for later payment.

 

[SLouTh]

The liquidators themselves are not going to be cheap. They have been working on this for months, and will likely be working on it for more months. And they will be paid very early in the piece, and/or will reserve their anticipated costs for later payment.

Yes agree.... they have released the hourly rates for persons working on the case - Principal Liquidator is on $595/hr

Initially a fee of $70,000 was locked in by the court for the liquidators, but I am thinking this may have only covered the initial phase... not ongoing costs.....
Draft Originating Process (fedcourt.gov.au)

 

[Trooper]

What about that necklace, sleeping away the hours at Canturi Jewels?.. the story is, it's paid for, merely waiting to be collected. Since she bought herself that great load of stuff around her wearing the T-shirt, it's reasonable to assume she also paid , herself, for this one, also. A gift to herself, perhaps for her big bash 50th at Hamilton Island. ..

But eerily, oddly, since she stole peoples hard earned to snaffle all sorts of gorgeous jewelry to enhance the Dior, she didn't collect this piece. Paid for.