Found Deceased Australia - Melissa Caddick, 49, Sydney, NSW, 12 Nov 2020 #7

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  • #541
I’ll go further and say ‘smug with a stupid grin’ at times.
I’d like to know if he’s working again because you’d have to be a right knucklehead to dip into a stash so quickly, but hey.
Does he still reside at the Dover Heights property with OC?
 
  • #542
I’ll go further and say ‘smug with a stupid grin’ at times.
I’d like to know if he’s working again because you’d have to be a right knucklehead to dip into a stash so quickly, but hey.
Does he still reside at the Dover Heights property with OC?
I used to deliver the mail and found myself at a ramshackle humpy and who came to the door, the local financial advisor. I googled the property and he was renting but wow his office was incredible. If I ever needed financial advice he would not be one for me. Maybe I’m just as impressionable as her investors.
Melissa used her clients funds to make sure she walked the walk and talked the talk.
Look at me, look at me, you can be just like me and they fell for it hook, line and sinker
I wonder if she used drugs i.e stimulants. Over the years I've been shocked to learn of the drug use of several people from all walks of life.

These people were on stimulants, illegal street drugs or ADHD medication they'd purchased illegally. One was a 55+ year old woman that worked at a retirement home as a nurse, the energy she had!

All these people, when "high", were absolute power houses, top of their game, charming, just so full of vitality that it warmed you to them.

Of course there is another side entirely to their lives but my point is that I do wonder if MC was pepped up each time she met with clients. The brain is almost Super-powered on stimulants, I won't get into their creation for use in WW1 to enhance soldiers capabilities as it's not the time or place but yes, much scientific literature exists on the subject and when I read, "she was constantly licking her lips" I think of a typical drug user with the dry mouth that typically comes with the dehydration a drug user experiences.

Why would this matter?

Because you need a supplier to use drugs, unless you manufacture them yourself, but even then you need to work with others along the line.
So drug dealers = underworld, especially at that level of society.

Once again, I may be way off but I don't see this case solved so...you know.
 
  • #543
Yes agree ..... I can't understand how no-one questioned her "wealth" ..... the amount of lies, by MC, must have been astronomical ....
I guess in this case "hindsight" must be fairly mind blowing......

I think MC knew it was over the day ASIC and AFP knocked on the door...... but I cant understand if a person was "thieving" millions of dollars that they wouldn't have a contingency plan???? Or did she really believe that she would never get caught?????
I think she did have a plan, it just didn't go "according to plan" if you catch my drift.
 
  • #544
Yes agree ..... I can't understand how no-one questioned her "wealth" ..... the amount of lies, by MC, must have been astronomical ....
I guess in this case "hindsight" must be fairly mind blowing......

I think MC knew it was over the day ASIC and AFP knocked on the door...... but I cant understand if a person was "thieving" millions of dollars that they wouldn't have a contingency plan???? Or did she really believe that she would never get caught?????
I think she did have a plan, it just didn't go "according to plan" if you catch my drift.
Yes agree ..... I can't understand how no-one questioned her "wealth" ..... the amount of lies, by MC, must have been astronomical ....
I guess in this case "hindsight" must be fairly mind blowing......

I think MC knew it was over the day ASIC and AFP knocked on the door...... but I cant understand if a person was "thieving" millions of dollars that they wouldn't have a contingency plan???? Or did she really believe that she would never get caught?????
 
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Those orders cover the relevant stuff, for sure.........

The Grimleys, obviously, would want to know the actual value the Liquidator has set on the Edgecliff apt, I presume so that they can have a number to work with, set off against the $1 mill they expect to get back from the estate of Melissa, as per their statements.

There are various values reached, in this matter.. The Liquidators number is one that the apartment cannot be sold less than. This prevents a silent sale, with only one bidder.

Then there is the Grimleys idea of what it should cost, which puts them in a difficult position. They would want it valued very highly, in case it is sold from underneath them, but a chance of getting their $1mill back. On the other hand, they would want it valued very low, to be able to borrow the remainder of the $1 mill they might get back, and only have to scrabble for a couple of mill instead of 3 or 4...

There is the real estate agents value.. this could be anything, no holds barred. He/she would know their market, and their buyers and price it accordingly, nothing to do with the actual value.

Then, there is the buyers price.. This is the one that will count the most, eventually. What is someone willing to pay ?.....
 
  • #547
I would very much like to know if Melissa's former father-in-law is attending this procedure.. I can't find him on any of the documents, so far presented, but he had the unpleasant experience of Melissa forging his name on some financial papers ( he is an Accountant, I don't know if he is a CPA, but that is probable ) , which must have set the relationship between him , Anthony and Melissa on a very rocky path, way back in time.

This is probably where Antony's father became convinced of his son's lack of insight and incapacity to distinguish approaching trouble, perhaps.. He did say his son would never in a lifetime understand the paperwork... maybe that's true.... maybe not..
 
  • #548
The Grimleys were not the owners of the property on paper but have said they had a written agreement with their daughter that they would have a life tenancy.

Going on all the previous documents that MC provided ...who can be sure that the one she provided her parents is legitimate!
 
  • #549
Yes I think so ..... from memory the G's were "tenants for life" on the mortgage papers of the Edgecliff property .....
We will have to go back and try and find the document in the affidavits....
Tenant for Life ends with bankruptcy ....so if the MC is declared bankrupt the G’s have no claim on the Edgecliffe property!
 
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The Contradictor stated that MC did in fact contribute funds....in 2014 she contributed $370k from the sale of the property she owned with her ex-husband, the child support she got for her son and the $10k her brother gave as rent.....so the question is how did she manage to get 2 mortgages if these were the only legitimate funds she had?
 
  • #552
That foot!..... if only it hadn't washed up where it did!.. It could have gone all the way to Antarctica, never to be found, .if only those kids hadn't been camping at Bournda Beach.....so isolated, so usually invisited..

The Grimleys could have lived in Edgecliff for the next seven years, until she would have been declared dead by the coroner because of no known activity... seven years to finangle some sort of financial stake to throw down on the property...

The 'investors' would have regained some sort of equilibrium, some kind of harmony, perhaps instigated a kind of survivors club to support each other..

The ATO wouldn't care how long it took..

The Police could jog along with other matters..

The Courts could handle other cases...

But no.. that shoe, with those bones in it just had to emerge, in broad daylight....
 
  • #553
Does he still reside at the Dover Heights property with OC?

I wonder if she used drugs i.e stimulants. Over the years I've been shocked to learn of the drug use of several people from all walks of life.

These people were on stimulants, illegal street drugs or ADHD medication they'd purchased illegally. One was a 55+ year old woman that worked at a retirement home as a nurse, the energy she had!

All these people, when "high", were absolute power houses, top of their game, charming, just so full of vitality that it warmed you to them.

Of course there is another side entirely to their lives but my point is that I do wonder if MC was pepped up each time she met with clients. The brain is almost Super-powered on stimulants, I won't get into their creation for use in WW1 to enhance soldiers capabilities as it's not the time or place but yes, much scientific literature exists on the subject and when I read, "she was constantly licking her lips" I think of a typical drug user with the dry mouth that typically comes with the dehydration a drug user experiences.

Why would this matter?

Because you need a supplier to use drugs, unless you manufacture them yourself, but even then you need to work with others along the line.
So drug dealers = underworld, especially at that level of society.

Once again, I may be way off but I don't see this case solved so...you know.
When wondering whether there are other players, we can definitely say 'yes' because of a few factors at least:
1. Someone is holding on to a huge stash of missing money;
2. Someone is holding on to the missing artwork from the Dover Heights home;
3. Some people that 'invested' with her have still not come forward to be named in the proceedings.

Find either and we will get some answers.

Was she directly or indirectly involved in the underreported Qantas scandal that was/is used by bikies, cartels, mafia, smugglers etc to courier over 1.5 billion worth of merchandise?
Qantas infiltrated by organised crime: ACIC

Was she involved in the encrypted ANOM phone scandal?
ANOM: Hundreds arrested in massive global crime sting using messaging app
 
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Does anyone have any thoughts on why the wills are suppressed? It wouldn't be difficult to allow reporting of the terms without revealing the names and addresses that are confidential. There must be something else.
 
  • #556
Does anyone have any thoughts on why the wills are suppressed? It wouldn't be difficult to allow reporting of the terms without revealing the names and addresses that are confidential. There must be something else.
Possibly because it may provide motive... and the court does not want the media storm that will follow...
 
  • #557
Why would MC’s parents make investment payment to MC as well as Maliver?

The parents should be treated as Investors like all the other Investors...why should they be treated differently. Why do they have different right to those of the other Investors?

MC lived of proceeds of crime and the funds should be treated as such!
 
  • #558
'The Grimleys were not the owners of the property on paper but have said they had a written agreement with their daughter that they would have a life tenancy.'

Well... there it is, people.. What their problem is going to be is, how to prove that the money Melissa invested in their apartment was not from the proceeds of crime. An impossible task. Melissa giving them (so they say ) life tenancy means exactly that. The length of Melissa's life. Which has now ceased. So to speak.

It is on these properties that the real tooth and claw stuff begins, Sydney Real estate being the unspoken religion across all levels of the community. Grimleys are burdened with the aspersion that they don't deserve Edgecliff.. as Antony doesn't deserve Dover Heights.. they were parvenues, arrivistes, charlatans.... and so on.. The claimants will indicate that the Grimleys have appropriated property rights where none existed due to the criminal nature of the funds supporting their lifestyle..


Fun and games could go on for years about this....
As I said previously, time is money and money is time.
 
  • #559
The parents playing the old and grieving card when their daughter stole from them and placed them into this position. They are fighting for $1.1m ....what about the other Investors who lost more then $20m .... and some are also in the same age bracket as the parents....and many of the investors have lost their future lifestyle which was stolen by MC.
 
  • #560
When one's estate, so to speak, is put 'In the Receiver's Hands'... it's already a lost cause. It's only a matter of cleaning up the residue, and in Melissa's case, not much of that residue is available, in reality.. On paper, there is lots, but to turn that into actual dollars in someone's account is a very long and not very often happy journey.

In this action of Melissa's I understand there are quite a few warring factions, and that means, in these kinds of cases , war until death of the other is achieved. There is no other ending. There are those that joined up in a class action, there are those that are a family group, there are solo claimants, all vying , warring, scrabbling for the same dollar.


Then , there is Melissa's family group, at war with every single claimant, every class action claimant, every Govt Org Claimant..

( I don't know who the Grimley's lawyer is, .. how they'll find the $$$ to pay him , a mystery, I doubt if any one would take this on on a win only fee basis.. )

Then there is the ATO ( Au Tax Office ) .. They'll be taxing every cent Melissa ever acquired and then they'll be taxing the recipients of any residue of the estate.. These are the quiet boys in dark suits sitting up the back of the court. No body is walking out of that court without an ATO officer on their case.
All in all, a very messy and protracted case, with all sorts of "people" vying for a slice of the funds.
 
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