GUILTY Australia - Morgan Huxley, 31, stabbed to death, Neutral Bay, NSW, 8 Sept 2013 #1

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  • #181
Jumping back to another aspect of the case, what is the relationship with RP? I seem to remember MSM stating that she claimed to be his "current girlfriend" (or "one of..."), but I can't seem to find that article any more, now only mentions of her being an (another) "ex-girlfriend" at the time of his death. There are very few articles that mention her, yet her picture appears in quite a few more.
Most interestingly, in this article they state:
Also expected at the service are the numerous women Mr Huxley is believed to have been romantically involved with, including part-time model Rebecca Prins.

There are numerous articles and pictures from the service, and not a single one (that I can find) contains any picture of her, or any mention that she was there. If she was as recent a lover as she originally claimed, I would have thought there'd be greater participation or more attention on her during the service. Or at least some attention by media.
Does anyone know if she actually attended the service? And if so, any reason why MSM totally ignored her? Have LE asked MSM to stop talking about her? Has she perhaps threatened legal action?

Ponderings....

Thats interesting michael - maybe, due to the publicity about the murderer attending the funeral, Police are looking for the person who 'didn't attend' the funeral due to the publicity and insinuation.
I found that strange actually - funny sort of announcement for the media to make from the Police that the killer would 'attend the funeral'. Cant imagine what it must have felt like to be there and have the media take pictures of the mourners (especially girlfriends) because they 'might be the one'.
For those who loved and accepted him just the way he was, I think it would have been hard on them.
:(
 
  • #182
Here is another scenario...

Could the perp have been hiding in his closet before he gets home from the engagement party... And he comes home with is another girl?

Morgan and other girl finish their booty call.. She leaves ...he goes for a couple of beers... Then comes back to a hiding psychotic killer who had witnessed the prior "activity"?

:dunno:
 
  • #183
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I've got a couple of theories floating around but I'll read a bit more, and then change my mind!! Anyone else feeling like this?

Throws up hand!
Yes, I think I'm up to number 5 now (at least).
 
  • #184
Good point.

There was reference to adrenalin - showing that Morgan had been aroused before his murder. I wonder how long these levels are raised for in the blood - how long would higher adrenalin levels be present after arousal? And would arousal include arousal from a fight (like the fight/flight physiological response) not just sexual arousal.

We need good 'ol Dr Watson over here quick smart! :)

The increased adrenaline may have been from an injection to stop the blood flow after the attack...

" It works by relaxing the muscles in the airways and tightening the blood vessels.

Epinephrine should be injected only in the middle of the outer side of the thigh, and can be injected through clothing if necessary in an emergency. Do not inject epinephrine into the buttocks or any other part of your body."
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/meds/a603002.html

The 'no pants on' discovery may have been from the medics cutting them off for medical treatment. The added adrenaline may not be from sex but an injection.
 
  • #185
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Throws up hand!
Yes, I think I'm up to number 5 now (at least).

LOL, me too! I have at least 3 running through my mind, based on the little bit of info we have here...

Really, I'll be totally floored and gobsmacked if this case goes unsolved. I think there'll have to be an arrest pretty soon.
 
  • #186
Here is another scenario...

Could the perp have been hiding in his closet before he gets home from the engagement party... And he comes home with is another girl?

Morgan and other girl finish their booty call.. She leaves ...he goes for a couple of beers... Then comes back to a hiding psychotic killer who had witnessed the prior "activity"?

:dunno:


Oh my goodness … pop out of the closet (naked?) like a girl out of a birthday cake! Well, one of them was a ‘model’ at one point.

Then hearing him having sex, or speaking lovingly to another girl. That would be enough to get some psychotic blood boiling.

Maybe Morgan then walked the actual current girl-of-the-moment to Military Road to catch a taxi home .. popped over to the pub for a beer or two .. then wandered home – to his demise.


ETA: Might also explain the person who was there 'moments before he was attacked' comment.
 
  • #187
A quote below from Doc Watson's message to me (so quick!). Our own resident expert! :)

Morning SW Thanks for the call. I'm just on my way out, and won't be back until late tonight, but I'll give your problem some thoughts.

Just off the top of my head, adrenaline is elevated during sex in the male, and can last for up to 20 minutes or so after orgasm - it's one of the factors that prevents an immediate erection straight after sex. Prolactin is the other.

But you're perfectly right - the presence of elevated adrenaline alone wouldn't immediately suggest to me that sex was involved, especially if somebody was murdered. My immediate thought would be the fright/flight response as you suggest - that would almost certainly put the adrenaline levels way up there unless the victim was drugged or already unconscious.

Is there any evidence of other blood hormone levels, eg FSH (Follicle Stimulating Hormone), prolactin, serotonin, etc? They may help to distinguish between sexual arousal and panic.

You can quote me on that, if you like, along with the apology that I can't get on line and check out that thread until probably tomorrow at the earliest.

I'm not really familiar with the Morgan Huxley case, so will have to read up about it before muttering any partially-educated nonsense...
 
  • #188
Looking back at police search areas ... seems this killer may have been very local. Police based one of their searches at Prior Avenue Reserve.

http://goo.gl/maps/hswvV

Searches among the residential back streets, to me, means strong local knowledge.

Wish we knew the areas the suspect(s) come from. Then we could discuss them in a general way, without pointing fingers or revealing residential addresses.


"At 10am several teams were concentrating on busy roads including Bannerman and Murdoch streets and Wycombe and Rangers roads.
The riot squad based their search in Prior Avenue Reserve near Cremorne Point and close to Sydney Harbour. They set up their search just before 9am and coordinated the search out of several black 4WDs parked on the reserve."

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/police-sc...leys-killer-20130919-2u13i.html#ixzz2g9QtLGBK
 
  • #189
The following is said with total respect to friends and family of the victim. If it offends, let me know and I will remove it.
On the subject of adrenaline levels, impairment, guys with very high success with girls, and over-the-top emotional responses, another topic that hasn't been touched on yet is cocaine. It is extremely common in "those" social circles on the lower north shore. Extremely common. And take a person with a slight personality disorder, a bit of alcohol and an emotional issue (like a fight with a lover). Just add coke and boom! You can get quite an explosive meltdown - believe me, I've seen it before.
There is mention of forensics waiting on toxicology results too - although that's probably just routine.
 
  • #190
Looking back at police search areas ... seems this killer may have been very local. Police based one of their searches at Prior Avenue Reserve.

http://goo.gl/maps/hswvV

Searches among the residential back streets, to me, means strong local knowledge.

Wish we knew the areas the suspect(s) come from. Then we could discuss them in a general way, without pointing fingers or revealing residential addresses.


"At 10am several teams were concentrating on busy roads including Bannerman and Murdoch streets and Wycombe and Rangers roads.
The riot squad based their search in Prior Avenue Reserve near Cremorne Point and close to Sydney Harbour. They set up their search just before 9am and coordinated the search out of several black 4WDs parked on the reserve."

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/police-sc...leys-killer-20130919-2u13i.html#ixzz2g9QtLGBK

What an interesting point. To set up their search base at such a specific place, when there are plenty of cul-de-sacs and parks much much closer to the crime scene makes me wonder if they set up there to deliberately 'lean' on someone who lives close by...
 
  • #191
Thank you, Dr Watson!

Just getting a bit of a timeline going for my own sake here.. forgive if already posted.

12.30am - Morgan's dropped off home in a taxi, presumably alone.

1.00am-ish - he wanders into the hotel over the road from his house, barefoot and looking relaxed. Has 1 or 2 beers in the 30 mins prior to closing.

1.30-ish - Goes home.

from msm:

"From the Ben Boyd Rd side exit of the pub, Mr Huxley walked around into Military Rd. He crossed at a set of lights outside Stir Crazy Thai restaurant, which almost took him to Watson St where he lived. From there it was less than 50m to his front door.

Sometime within the next 90-minutes, although police believe it could possibly be closer to 60-minutes, Mr Huxley was repeatedly stabbed almost 30 times."

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...va-morgan-huxley/story-fni0cx12-1226724096453

Doesn't sound much to me like he had a girl at home during that time.. maybe he did, but I'm thinking his killer arrived at his place after he got home the second time, maybe called there...

The booty call theory's getting stronger in my mind - police do say there's evidence of recent sexual activity in his room. But then, seeing Morgan had a lot of women in his room, it could have been from the night or morning before the party?

Maybe his killer watched him come home alone and took her opportunity to have him to herself. And he said or did the 'wrong' thing..

I have to wonder, though, if they were hovering around his place, knowing the flatmate was out.. or would be out that night..
 
  • #192
So, if someone possibly lived in Cremorne Point, that would be close/local to Neutral Bay, right?
 
  • #193
Thank you, Dr Watson!

Just getting a bit of a timeline going for my own sake here.. forgive if already posted.

12.30am - Morgan's dropped off home in a taxi, presumably alone.

1.00am-ish - he wanders into the hotel over the road from his house, barefoot and looking relaxed. Has 1 or 2 beers in the 30 mins prior to closing.

1.30-ish - Goes home.

from msm:

"From the Ben Boyd Rd side exit of the pub, Mr Huxley walked around into Military Rd. He crossed at a set of lights outside Stir Crazy Thai restaurant, which almost took him to Watson St where he lived. From there it was less than 50m to his front door.

Sometime within the next 90-minutes, although police believe it could possibly be closer to 60-minutes, Mr Huxley was repeatedly stabbed almost 30 times."

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...va-morgan-huxley/story-fni0cx12-1226724096453

Doesn't sound much to me like he had a girl at home during that time.. maybe he did, but I'm thinking his killer arrived at his place after he got home the second time, maybe called there...

The booty call theory's getting stronger in my mind - police do say there's evidence of recent sexual activity in his room. But then, seeing Morgan had a lot of women in his room, it could have been from the night or morning before the party?

Maybe his killer watched him come home alone and took her opportunity to have him to herself. And he said or did the 'wrong' thing..

I have to wonder, though, if they were hovering around his place, knowing the flatmate was out.. or would be out that night..

Thank you Dr Watson!

Ausgirl just adding to your timeline about what he was wearing when he left the hotel..

"Security footage captures the 31-year-old walking into the Military Hotel at 1.01am dressed in a T-shirt and shorts, with his sunglasses on his head. He appeared to be barefoot."
http://m.smh.com.au/nsw/morgan-huxl...arger-than-life-character-20130912-2tml3.html

I wonder if the clothes he was wearing to the engagement party were different to this description? I find it unusual for a man to walk in the city barefoot.
 
  • #194
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Maybe his killer watched him come home alone and took her opportunity to have him to herself. And he said or did the 'wrong' thing..

I have to wonder, though, if they were hovering around his place, knowing the flatmate was out.. or would be out that night..

Yeah, I get that impression too - that he was being watched by someone. Its possible there from many angles.
The Oaks Hotel is pretty open (view wise).
 
  • #195
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Yeah, I get that impression too - that he was being watched by someone. Its possible there from many angles.
The Oaks Hotel is pretty open (view wise).


Agreed ... was thinking that could be the reason they were searching those car parks across the street from The Oaks on Military Road ... possible vantage points. Interesting that the car parks can view the side entrance that Morgan left The Oaks from.
 
  • #196
Thank you Dr Watson!

Ausgirl just adding to your timeline about what he was wearing when he left the hotel..

"Security footage captures the 31-year-old walking into the Military Hotel at 1.01am dressed in a T-shirt and shorts, with his sunglasses on his head. He appeared to be barefoot."
http://m.smh.com.au/nsw/morgan-huxl...arger-than-life-character-20130912-2tml3.html

I wonder if the clothes he was wearing to the engagement party were different to this description? I find it unusual for a man to walk in the city barefoot.

Police did take away a grey coloured suit for examination.
Daily Telegraph source.
 
  • #197
Can anyone help clear this up? No doubt thanks to over-eager news writers once more caring less for actual FACTS than being quick to report..

In some reports Morgan's housemate is said to have been on a girl's night out, and discovered him in his room after hearing an odd sound not long after getting home.

In other reports, she was "woken up" by a sound...

I just wanted to be clear about it, but I'm seeing both stories reported. :\
 
  • #198
Can anyone help clear this up? No doubt thanks to over-eager news writers once more caring less for actual FACTS than being quick to report..

In some reports Morgan's housemate is said to have been on a girl's night out, and discovered him in his room after hearing an odd sound not long after getting home.

In other reports, she was "woken up" by a sound...

I just wanted to be clear about it, but I'm seeing both stories reported. :\

I noticed that the 'woken up' report is attributed to police .. I don't believe the other stories are attributed to the police (if that helps - it has certainly swayed my opinion the way of the police version).
 
  • #199
Can anyone help clear this up? No doubt thanks to over-eager news writers once more caring less for actual FACTS than being quick to report..

In some reports Morgan's housemate is said to have been on a girl's night out, and discovered him in his room after hearing an odd sound not long after getting home.

In other reports, she was "woken up" by a sound...

I just wanted to be clear about it, but I'm seeing both stories reported. :\

Competing newspapers with different 'sources'?

"She had just arrived home from a girls night, and soon after walking in the front door of the unit, she told police she was startled by a "gargling" sound and an agonising moan coming from Mr Huxley's room."
Via The Daily Telegraph
http://m.dailytelegraph.com.au/news...va-morgan-huxley/story-fni0cx12-1226724096453

" The woman he shared the unit with told police she had no idea what had happened but was woken by a noise."

Via The Sydney Morning Herald
http://m.smh.com.au/nsw/police-inve...er-night-out-with-friends-20130909-2tga5.html
 
  • #200
Looking back at police search areas ... seems this killer may have been very local. Police based one of their searches at Prior Avenue Reserve.

http://goo.gl/maps/hswvV

Searches among the residential back streets, to me, means strong local knowledge.

Wish we knew the areas the suspect(s) come from. Then we could discuss them in a general way, without pointing fingers or revealing residential addresses.


"At 10am several teams were concentrating on busy roads including Bannerman and Murdoch streets and Wycombe and Rangers roads.
The riot squad based their search in Prior Avenue Reserve near Cremorne Point and close to Sydney Harbour. They set up their search just before 9am and coordinated the search out of several black 4WDs parked on the reserve."

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/police-sc...leys-killer-20130919-2u13i.html#ixzz2g9QtLGBK

OMG!!!!!!! RP back to top of my list!
 
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