GUILTY Australia - Morgan Huxley, 31, stabbed to death, Neutral Bay, NSW, 8 Sept 2013 #2

[Humdinger]

Paring knife sounds good to me ... and I agree, they allow a lot more control. As well as being small and fairly easy to conceal - if it wasn't in his satchel. I'm just not convinced he was enough of a cook to be carrying expensive chef's knives around. But I guess if he was a student, then maybe. Are we sure that students need their own knives?

I prefer paring knives for cooking prep most of the time - they are just so ... handy! I've been liking a Stanley knife for the attack, but a paring knife really fits the bill (to me) as well.

Back when I was in the thick of the industry, though front of house, apprentices have a basic 'victorinox' brand kit and they tailor it to suit their individual styles and needs from there. But that was the tafe requirement IIRC.

I have quite thin handled paring knives at home, but this one at work tonight was such a fit for my hand... Quite an eye opener...

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

The problem with teenagers is that they are biologically adults living in a world that insists on treating them as children. Consequently they don't start learning to behave like adults until they have left school and entered the adult world. They go through this period where they are in a sort of limbo, that is what generates the negative behaviours. I would bet that most of those problems would go away if children were raised to start assuming the responsibilities of adulthood when they hit puberty.

Very good point...

In my studies I have discovered that in cultures that have fairly strong "rites of passages" at puberty,with the individual expected to take on important roles and responsibilities in to adulthood, we find the transitioning from child to adulthood to be more successful...

his develops a sense of GIVING TO the community... Instead of expectations of entitlement...

JMO...

 

[Ausgirl]

An Oaks Hotel barmaid said she had been in contact with Huxley the same night but was unable to meet up with him because she was busy with university study.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/huxleys-a...sources-say-20131012-2vf60.html#ixzz2hVvXytrx

- so maybe that's what he was doing hanging about at the Oaks, etc.. Hoping for some barmaid lovin'.

 

[Ausgirl]

What's the bet the little booger saw "DNA" and all the rest in the paper, panicked to the MAX, called himself in -- as a witness, to explain any evidence he left at the scene.

Backfire!

eta : Though maybe he really did see a "young woman" after he killed Morgan-- the flatmate coming home?

 

[SouthAussie]

Wowser! He must have been more than a bit concerned about his DNA being found in Morgan's bedroom - to have contacted police like that.

And it does sound like Morgan was working his way down his booty call list, doesn't it? His phone must have shown a wealth of info ... but not the hookup with DJK. (Grindr then?)

What the heck was DJK doing dressed in his chef's 'costume' that late at night? And on a Saturday night? No school on Saturdays. I wonder where he said he worked?


(Haha Ausgirl - snap!)

 

[SouthAussie]

Anyone else noticing the recent mentions of Morgan being 'almost a permanent fixture' at the Oaks Hotel? What's that about?

 

[Brightbird]

What's the bet the little booger saw "DNA" and all the rest in the paper, panicked to the MAX, called himself in -- as a witness, to explain any evidence he left at the scene.

Backfire!

Definite backfire. Especially since he had no criminal record and presumably no DNA on file to track him down with. I wonder if he thought he was going to get away with it and wanted to get closer to the investigation.

Scary to think this could have gone unsolved if he hadn't contacted police. Though the cctv footage could have done him in. Maybe that's why he contacted police?

 

[Ausgirl]

Anyone else noticing the recent mentions of Morgan being a 'fixture' at the Oaks Hotel? What's that about?

He drank a lot? :B

Definite backfire. Especially since he had no criminal record and presumably no DNA on file to track him down with. I wonder if he thought he was going to get away with it and wanted to get closer to the investigation.

Scary to think this could have gone unsolved if he hadn't contacted police. Though the cctv footage could have done him in. Maybe that's why he contacted police?

Not uncommon for killers to insert themselves into the investigation, either to explain stuff or keep tabs on the police... the former, for Kelsall, I think.

What a dumb move. I hope he gets to 'do'h' in jail for the next 25 years to life.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Well, if we can discuss prostitution...

Anyway. What kind of leads me in that direction (and I am NOT suggesting Morgan was on drugs, this is all about DJK at this stage, please note) is that we know he ate at the pizza shop five days a week, the Thai place three times a week, and hung about the coffee shop a lot drinking his soft drinks or w/e and relaxing with his book. PLUS -all- the businesses and people working for them up and down that strip knew him, so it's looking like he spent a great deal of time every week hanging about that little area. When he lived a kilometer away.. and the Cooking School says he didn't work there, in any capacity. Despite that he always carried his "chef's kit" - possibly in that satchel.

What I would just love right now? Is if we knew -how much- time, exactly, DJK spent every day hanging about each of the businesses in that block of shops. And whether anyone working in the School actually recalls him being there for work.

Not difficult questions to be asking, if anyone (like.. a reporter, say) was inclined to go about it.

Speaking prostitution...

Seems DJK could have had a fairly successful "business" if he was able to hang in that specific area... Eating take out frequently...

that location could have been a street walker's equivalent to his "corner"...

He is known there... And can be seen easily should a John wish to meet with him...

WHAT was in that satchel... I have GOT to know!

All speculation... All JMO... Of course...

ETA... But if this IS the case... I imagine there are quite a few men shaking in their boots right about now... Wondering if they will be "found out"...(otherwise "straight" men ... Married ...with kids... Successful businesses... Etc.)

 

[SouthAussie]

He drank a lot? :B

:doh: silly me


I wonder why they feel the need to mention it lately? Perhaps insinuating that is how Morgan and DJK knew each other? :dunno:

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Well, looks like Kelsall's talking. Seems he contacted police --voluntarily---


"He told police that he and Huxley engaged in a consensual sexual activity before he left Huxley's unit sometime before 3am.

Mr Kelsall then allegedly told police he saw a ''young woman'' going into Huxley's unit as he was leaving. What happened next, he did not know.

It is understood police have not accepted Mr Kelsall's version of the night's events."

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/huxleys-a...sources-say-20131012-2vf60.html#ixzz2hVursqwN

Interesting article...

My own words:

- DJK contacted LE first... Wow!

- MH was in contact with a barmaid at the Oaks... But she had to study... So there was no meetup...

-and... He was in contact that night with another lady, as well...

so confuzzling..

 

[Ausgirl]

I'm having a hard time seeing a geeky male hooker in a chef's uniform and checkered pants, with a satchel, chasing Morgan down the street and Morgan thinking that was appealing. It just seems.. idk. A really strange alternative to hot barmaids.

Maybe he had his beer goggles on.

Or it wasn't a gay hook-up.

 

[SouthAussie]

I'm having a hard time seeing a geeky male hooker in a chef's uniform and checkered pants, with a satchel, chasing Morgan down the street and Morgan thinking that was appealing. It just seems.. idk. A really strange alternative to hot barmaids.

Maybe he had his beer goggles on.

Or it wasn't a gay hook-up.

Maybe a private cooking class?

Wonder if it was JR he saw coming home. Or it's just a big fat lie (as I think JR was home already as several articles have stated).

 

[Ausgirl]

Maybe a private cooking class?

:bananalama:

 

[Ausgirl]

And yeah -- gotta wonder if it was JR or not. Maybe he was working a bit of truth into his lie.. or it's just a weird coincidence JR woke up/came home (whichever) so soon after the murder..?

This case. It does my head in.

ETA: OOH. Okay - what if Kelsall was still IN the apt when JR staggered out of bed and went in to Morgan..? Agh, idk.

 

[enzeder]

Wowser! He must have been more than a bit concerned about his DNA being found in Morgan's bedroom - to have contacted police like that.

And it does sound like Morgan was working his way down his booty call list, doesn't it? His phone must have shown a wealth of info ... but not the hookup with DJK. (Grindr then?)

What the heck was DJK doing dressed in his chef's 'costume' that late at night? And on a Saturday night? No school on Saturdays. I wonder where he said he worked?


(Haha Ausgirl - snap!)

BBM

Still trying to catch up with this case - reading a lot of MSM articles - where was DJK working? - did he actually have a job?

 

[Ausgirl]

enzeder, Kelsall claimed according to several sources that he was working at the Sydney Cooking School - he even told police this.

But the owner of the school is saying Kelsall never worked there at all.

So that's very weird. Somebody's lying.

And so we don't know where he worked, or even IF he worked.

 

[SouthAussie]

BBM

Still trying to catch up with this case - reading a lot of MSM articles - where was DJK working? - did he actually have a job?

Hey enzeder! Good to see you

We can't find anything that actually says he had a job. They call him a chef's assistant. The cooking school owner says he may have taken 'a class' there. Somewhere it said he was a dishwasher. No-one is claiming him as an employee (I don't think). Can't blame them for that ... would mean a media onslaught ... or at least a media phone campaign. :wink:

 

[Ausgirl]

... or at least a media phone campaign. :wink:

Bahaha!

Well, I was WRONG about there being no new news for months, eh.

I wonder if the laws regarding msm and murder trials are a little different in NSW than in VIC? Seems to me the media embargo on the Jill Meagher case was much more full-on than this....

 

[enzeder]

enzeder, Kelsall claimed according to several sources that he was working at the Sydney Cooking School - he even told police this.

But the owner of the school is saying Kelsall never worked there at all.

So that's very weird. Somebody's lying.

And so we don't know where he worked, or even IF he worked.

Thanks Ausgirl! - In the below quote it says he "told locals he was employed as a kitchenhand" which I found quite odd because I wouldn't have thought that a kitchenhand would normally wear a chef's uniform?.

Kelsall told locals he was employed as a kitchenhand at the nearby Sydney Cooking School, even though the owner and employees at the school claimed they've never heard of him.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...an-morgan-huxley/story-fni0cx12-1226738606127