Found Deceased Australia - Russell Hill, 74, & Carol Clay, 72, Wonnangatta Valley, 20 March 2020 #2

[TootsieFootsie]

We never did find out who the older couple who were sighted were. There was no report saying they'd come forward and been ruled out.

You know, I wonder if when people read or listen to news reports about an older or elderly person and how they should come forward etc and they were in the area, that maybe it doesn't register because they don't think of themselves as "older" and don't even think it could be referring to them.

 

[Midwestmom2019]

We never did find out who the older couple who were sighted were. There was no report saying they'd come forward and been ruled out.

You know, I wonder if when people read or listen to news reports about an older or elderly person and how they should come forward etc and they were in the area, that maybe it doesn't register because they don't think of themselves as "older" and don't even think it could be referring to them.

Their identity may not have been disclosed by LE to protect their privacy.

 

[Kemug]

Their identity may not have been disclosed by LE to protect their privacy.

Yes, you are right. But surely LE could say that "they have found the probable couple, but although there is a superficial resemblance, it is not CC and RH. Their names have been withheld for their privacy." Surely that much could be said?

 

[Midwestmom2019]

Yes, you are right. But surely LE could say that "they have found the probable couple, but although there is a superficial resemblance, it is not CC and RH. Their names have been withheld for their privacy." Surely that much could be said?

Of course, but then there’s always some pestering reporter looking further. Easier to deny, deny, deny.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

I think whoever did come forward, LE would have protected their privacy.
They wouldn't have said they resembled who they were looking for, otherwise those pesky reporters might ferret them out and go after them for a story .
Ie what did it feel like being mistaken for the missing campers. Can we have a photo so we see how much you resemble Russell and Carol ?
And has anyone else said that you look like them.
They could get a few stories out of them.

 

[TatianaBarbie]

I think whoever did come forward, LE would have protected their privacy.
They wouldn't have said they resembled who they were looking for, otherwise those pesky reporters might ferret them out and go after them for a story .
Ie what did it feel like being mistaken for the missing campers. Can we have a photo so we see how much you resemble Russell and Carol ?
And has anyone else said that you look like them.
They could get a few stories out of them.

Sad, but true. I can just see those articles in my head, and that couple would be forever remembered as the Russell and Carol look-alikes!

 

[Kemug]

I just happened upon the case of Lyle and Marie McCann. It has a couple of similarities to this one, ie a destructive fire, and they were never found. A suspect was found and jailed, but it seems a bit dodgy. No real closure, which is maybe what we're looking at in this case.

 

[Satchie]

I just happened upon the case of Lyle and Marie McCann. It has a couple of similarities to this one, ie a destructive fire, and they were never found. A suspect was found and jailed, but it seems a bit dodgy. No real closure, which is maybe what we're looking at in this case.

Good point, an older couple's RV found burned up, no sign of them.

I followed that case closely, it being in my neck of the woods. One difference is police identified the suspect very quickly, partly because Lyle McCann's phone had been used to call the suspect's girlfriend! He was a known violent, fire-starting drug addict who'd just returned to the area totally broke and the deaths are believed to have resulted from his robbing them by the side of the highway. Their bodies were never found, but there was blood and a bullet hole...

Deceased/Not Found - Canada - Lyle, 78, & Marie McCann, 77, Alberta, 5 July 2010 #1 *T. Vader guilty*

 

[PingTheRouter]

Does anyone think we should start a located thread for Jarrad Lovison

especially with the barista arrested today for his murder, always felt to me like she hit him off the road and killed him, basically a hit and run but i could be wrong

 

[neesaki]

Does anyone think we should start a located thread for Jarrad Lovison

especially with the barista arrested today for his murder, always felt to me like she hit him off the road and killed him, basically a hit and run but i could be wrong

I'm not familiar with the case. Was he also an Aussie ?

 

[Kemug]

This case is driving me crazy! Surely someone must know something about Carol and Russell!

 

[Black-Cat]

This case is driving me crazy! Surely someone must know something about Carol and Russell!

Me too .... police must be just watching, listening and waiting for someone to slip up ... I think they know

 

[Kemug]

As I make a start today on our annual Christmas letter, I am thinking of Carol and Russell's families. Christmas will be so hard for them.

 

[srper2]

I have heard of a new incident that occurred recently in a remote camp spot around 70k's from Wonnangatta. A few 4wd loads of drunken men pulled into a camp spot and just drove straight over another person's camp site/tent etc. because it was where they wanted to camp. There was fighting and abuse, they even tied someone to a tree and police were called by a person hiding near the river. If there had been no mobile coverage, who knows what might have happened (this hasn't hit the news yet, probably because nobody died or disappeared). Another incident occurred recently where a man died after being beaten by a group of men after a disagreement on camp sites and his dog near Noojee. None of the other campers have come forward or were willing to talk to police (sounds familiar!) and the attackers have never been caught, this hit the news. Were RH and CC unlucky enough to have been accosted randomly by violent idiots who wanted to take their camp spot, who went too far and then had to cover up murders? Did police find any evidence of the tent/camping equipment being damaged before it was burnt, maybe they haven't disclosed that yet?
https://www.theage.com.au/national/...ippsland-camp-site-death-20200623-p5555r.html
Homicide detectives investigate after man bashed while camping in Victoria
https://7news.com.au/news/vic/man-d...ys-after-unprovoked-campsite-attack-c-1117742

 

[Black-Cat]

I have heard of a new incident that occurred recently in a remote camp spot around 70k's from Wonnangatta. A few 4wd loads of drunken men pulled into a camp spot and just drove straight over another person's camp site/tent etc. because it was where they wanted to camp. There was fighting and abuse, they even tied someone to a tree and police were called by a person hiding near the river. If there had been no mobile coverage, who knows what might have happened (this hasn't hit the news yet, probably because nobody died or disappeared). Another incident occurred recently where a man died after being beaten by a group of men after a disagreement on camp sites and his dog near Noojee. None of the other campers have come forward or were willing to talk to police (sounds familiar!) and the attackers have never been caught, this hit the news. Were RH and CC unlucky enough to have been accosted randomly by violent idiots who wanted to take their camp spot, who went too far and then had to cover up murders? Did police find any evidence of the tent/camping equipment being damaged before it was burnt, maybe they haven't disclosed that yet?
https://www.theage.com.au/national/...ippsland-camp-site-death-20200623-p5555r.html
Homicide detectives investigate after man bashed while camping in Victoria
https://7news.com.au/news/vic/man-dies-leaving. -victorian-pub-days-after-unprovoked-campsite-attack-c-1117742

Whoa that’s awful ... how you know about this?

 

[Midwestmom2019]

I have heard of a new incident that occurred recently in a remote camp spot around 70k's from Wonnangatta. A few 4wd loads of drunken men pulled into a camp spot and just drove straight over another person's camp site/tent etc. because it was where they wanted to camp. There was fighting and abuse, they even tied someone to a tree and police were called by a person hiding near the river. If there had been no mobile coverage, who knows what might have happened (this hasn't hit the news yet, probably because nobody died or disappeared). Another incident occurred recently where a man died after being beaten by a group of men after a disagreement on camp sites and his dog near Noojee. None of the other campers have come forward or were willing to talk to police (sounds familiar!) and the attackers have never been caught, this hit the news. Were RH and CC unlucky enough to have been accosted randomly by violent idiots who wanted to take their camp spot, who went too far and then had to cover up murders? Did police find any evidence of the tent/camping equipment being damaged before it was burnt, maybe they haven't disclosed that yet?
https://www.theage.com.au/national/...ippsland-camp-site-death-20200623-p5555r.html
Homicide detectives investigate after man bashed while camping in Victoria
https://7news.com.au/news/vic/man-d...ys-after-unprovoked-campsite-attack-c-1117742

If it was a random act of violence, statistically, it will never be solved. I don’t believe LE has any ideas who targeted them, if indeed it was a crime. Too many coincidences for it to be anything else. No bodies. No drone. No witnesses. Everything burned.

 

[srper2]

Whoa that’s awful ... how you know about this?

Spoke to someone who had to drive out there to collect the person hiding in the river!

 

[srper2]

Another report of a hit and run in 2018 where the victim was left to die by illegal hunters, and a report about other rogue hunters, it seems that there is a lawless cohort who go to the area and don't care who they terrorise or injure/kill...Dying man’s cryptic last words may lead cops to his killer
I'd like to listen to this podcast, but a paywall - ‎Life and Crimes with Andrew Rule: High country cowboys on Apple Podcasts

https://www.stockandland.com.au/story/4859493/rogue-pig-hunters-are-causing-big-problems/

This one is paywalled as well:
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If their tent was burned to cover up an accidental shooting surely there may have been some evidence left? Did some of these rogue idiots accidentally shoot them in the night and decide to burn the tent to cover up and took the bodies away to bury them? But then, it seems from the above repots that they probably would have just left them and driven away??
Deer hunters fire into Victorian front yards

 

[Kemug]

Wow, this could change everything! Although, would a group of drunken yobbos be able to tidy up the site so thoroughly, especially in the dark? Now I'm hopelessly confused.

 

[Kemug]

To answer myself - no I don't think they would have been able to tidy up so thoroughly that no clue was left.