Australia - Russell Hill & Carol Clay Murdered While Camping - Wonnangatta Valley, 2020 #7

[JudgeJudi]

I feel having GL take the stand in this case is probably a little less risky than it normally would be. Firstly, GL has the ability to think calmly before responding. But mainly, his story is probably 98% true....he just altered 2% of it which is to say he didn't kill them. He probably won't have trouble remembering that 2% that he's switched around.

I think he's taking a bigger risk by taking the stand as he'll be subjected to cross-examination. If the Crown Prosecutor is a good one, it could be quite brutal. As Dann has a very good reputation, IMO he would have been better served by letting him do the talking.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Even if we believe his account, it’s pretty concerning to me to consider the lengths that this guy went to in order to avoid taking responsibility for something that lead to the deaths of two innocent people. And that he felt that an offer to plead guilty to destroying evidence would have been totally reasonable. Like, for real, wtf. jmo

Yes, it was a terrible day that Russell and Carol had the misfortune to cross paths with this person

 

[JBowie]

Porceddu is also asking Lynn if the lapse in time between the pair vanishing and the police finding him, he had plenty of time to work out a story to tell the police

Spot on!

 

[TootsieFootsie]

About 15 minutes til court resumes

 

[drsleuth]

These are from before the break

Greg Lynn finishes giving evidence after hours-long testimony in missing campers murder trial — as it happened

Greg Lynn has given his testimony in his murder trial in Victoria's Supreme Court. He has pleaded not guilty to murdering campers Russell Hill and Carol Clay in Victoria's High Country in 2020.

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Greg Lynn was next asked about his decision to clean the firearm at the centre of the struggle with Russell Hill.

Daniel Porceddu: "On your version, Mr Hill's fingerprints would've also been on the magazine?"
Mr Lynn: "Yes."
Mr Porceddu: "Yet on your version, you say you clean the firearm when you get home. This would've been key to your defence wouldn't it?"
Mr Lynn: "I never expected to be in this courthouse."

The court has broken for lunch, bringing to an end a tense hour or so of cross-examination by prosecutor Daniel Porceddu.

Throughout the trial, all the people Mr Porceddu has questioned have been witnesses called by the prosecution. The exchanges have been cordial, as he took witnesses through their statements and evidence.

Greg Lynn presented an entirely different proposition.

At times, Mr Porceddu's voice boomed through the courtroom as he fired accusations at Mr Lynn, including that he murdered Russell Hill and Carol Clay.

"That's not true," Mr Lynn replied, calmly.

Mr Lynn confirmed that through his training as a pilot, he was able to maintain his composure in stressful situations.

Mr Porceddu then put it to Mr Lynn that he wanted the jury to believe he "unexpectedly panicked" and tried to cover up evidence of the campers' deaths.

"Aren't you trained to be calm and rational?" the prosecutor asked.
"I'm very stressed right now," the accused murderer replied.
"A better result is always achieved without panic."
"I had never been faced with two dead people before."

Proceedings are expected to resume around 2:15pm, with more cross-examination by the prosecutor.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

He overestimated his being able to formulate a "pathway" to escape being caught.

He thought, that he'd thought of everything, but it was far from the truth.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

‘Very sorry for your suffering’: Greg Lynn apologises at murder trial for actions after campers’ deaths

Former Jetstar pilot describes struggle that led to deaths of Russell Hill and Carol Clay, after pleading not guilty to murder

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‘Very sorry for your suffering’: Greg Lynn apologises at murder trial for actions after campers’ deaths​

 

[drsleuth]

As it happened: What accused killer Gregory Lynn told the jury about missing campers’ deaths

Breaking his silence for the first time, Gregory Lynn revealed to the jury that his family found it “quite comical” how similar his car was to the Nissan Patrol police were searching for in the missing campers case. Follow our live updates.

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The cross-examination of accused missing campers’ killer Gregory Lynn is resuming.
Crown prosecutor Daniel Porceddu is asking Lynn, 57, about the destruction of evidence at a remote campsite in Victoria’s High Country after the deaths of Russell Hill and Carol Clay.
Lynn denies that it was always his intention to destroy, or “obliterate”, the bodies when he dumped them.
“I expected them to be found. If I wanted to hide the bodies, I would have dragged them off into the bush.”

 

[crhedBngr]

‘Very sorry for your suffering’: Greg Lynn apologises at murder trial for actions after campers’ deaths

Former Jetstar pilot describes struggle that led to deaths of Russell Hill and Carol Clay, after pleading not guilty to murder

www.theguardian.com

‘Very sorry for your suffering’: Greg Lynn apologises at murder trial for actions after campers’ deaths​

Errrrr . . .

And this is supposed to relieve the Families' and Friends' grief??

SMH.

JMVHO.

 

[discostu]

As it happened: What accused killer Gregory Lynn told the jury about missing campers’ deaths

Breaking his silence for the first time, Gregory Lynn revealed to the jury that his family found it “quite comical” how similar his car was to the Nissan Patrol police were searching for in the missing campers case. Follow our live updates.

www.theage.com.au

The cross-examination of accused missing campers’ killer Gregory Lynn is resuming.
Crown prosecutor Daniel Porceddu is asking Lynn, 57, about the destruction of evidence at a remote campsite in Victoria’s High Country after the deaths of Russell Hill and Carol Clay.
Lynn denies that it was always his intention to destroy, or “obliterate”, the bodies when he dumped them.
“I expected them to be found. If I wanted to hide the bodies, I would have dragged them off into the bush.”

And then when he spent a whole day burning their remains I guess that was also to ensure they were easily found..? jmo

 

[drsleuth]

Greg Lynn finishes giving evidence after hours-long testimony in missing campers murder trial — as it happened

Greg Lynn has given his testimony in his murder trial in Victoria's Supreme Court. He has pleaded not guilty to murdering campers Russell Hill and Carol Clay in Victoria's High Country in 2020.

www.abc.net.au

Greg Lynn's cross-examination has resumed.

Prosecutor Daniel Porceddu took Mr Lynn to his account of moving the bodies of campers Russell Hill and Carol Clay to a remote area known as Union Spur after their deaths.

"You did drive to Union Spur and you did hide the bodies, is that so?" the prosecutor asked.

"I didn't hide the bodies. I placed them there. I expected them to be found," the accused man replied.

Mr Lynn told the court he put leaves on the bodies to keep animals away. If he wanted to hide the bodies, he said, he could have moved them further into the scrub.

"They were right next to the track," he said.

 

[drsleuth]

Greg Lynn finishes giving evidence after hours-long testimony in missing campers murder trial — as it happened

Greg Lynn has given his testimony in his murder trial in Victoria's Supreme Court. He has pleaded not guilty to murdering campers Russell Hill and Carol Clay in Victoria's High Country in 2020.

www.abc.net.au

Greg Lynn's cross-examination has resumed.

Prosecutor Daniel Porceddu took Mr Lynn to his account of moving the bodies of campers Russell Hill and Carol Clay to a remote area known as Union Spur after their deaths.

"You did drive to Union Spur and you did hide the bodies, is that so?" the prosecutor asked.

"I didn't hide the bodies. I placed them there. I expected them to be found," the accused man replied.

Mr Lynn told the court he put leaves on the bodies to keep animals away. If he wanted to hide the bodies, he said, he could have moved them further into the scrub.

"They were right next to the track," he said.

BBM: Is this guy serious!! Leaves! Yep that would work to keep animals away

 

[JBowie]

Mr Lynn: "I never expected to be in this courthouse."

My response: Ain't karma a b*tch?

 

[drsleuth]

As it happened: What accused killer Gregory Lynn told the jury about missing campers’ deaths

Breaking his silence for the first time, Gregory Lynn revealed to the jury that his family found it “quite comical” how similar his car was to the Nissan Patrol police were searching for in the missing campers case. Follow our live updates.

www.theage.com.au

In May 2020, Gregory Lynn says he returned to Union Spur Track – where Carol Clay and Russell Hill’s remains were found.
“They were decomposing. I didn’t look very closely, but they hadn’t moved, no animals had been at them, the sticks were still on top,” Lynn says.
Later, on November 18, 2020, he returned to the site, arriving just before sunset.
When it was dark, he removed some of the wood on top of Hill and Clay’s bodies, added accelerant and lit the fire.
Throughout the night he had to put more pieces of wood on the fire to keep it going.
“Almost everything was gone, it was just mostly ash left,” he said.
Lynn says he decided to destroy the bodies after being visited by police and revealing to them the route he had taken out of the Wonnangatta Valley.
He says he became physically sick several times but that didn’t persuade him to stop.
“It was a difficult task. I knew or thought that once that was over and the evidence from my now-known route was gone that I would finally be free of this disaster.”
“Despite feeling sick you remained there till the job was done?” crown prosecutor Daniel Porceddu asks.
Lynn replies: “Yes”.

 

[drsleuth]

Greg Lynn finishes giving evidence after hours-long testimony in missing campers murder trial — as it happened

Greg Lynn has given his testimony in his murder trial in Victoria's Supreme Court. He has pleaded not guilty to murdering campers Russell Hill and Carol Clay in Victoria's High Country in 2020.

www.abc.net.au

Questioning has turned to November 2020, when Mr Lynn returned to the Union Spur site to burn the remains of Russell Hill and Carol Clay.

Mr Lynn told the court he decided to take this path of action — removing what he called the only remaining evidence — after he told police his route out of the Wonnangatta Valley when they visited him in July 2020.

At the Union Spur site, Mr Lynn said, he carried out the task despite becoming sick several times.

"It was a difficult task," he said.

"I thought once that was over, and the evidence from my now-known route was gone, that I would finally be free of this disaster."

 

[TootsieFootsie]

I think he meant he would have been ok with them being found, because he thought that he had covered his tracks and like he said "no one knew I was there" at the camp site where Russell and Carol were.
Once he knew he was likely a suspect is when he went back and tried to destroy the bodies.

Quite stupid because he had been seen by someone.
Like the man who thought he was sick because he was covered in sweat.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

At the Union Spur site, Mr Lynn said, he carried out the task despite becoming sick several times.

"It was a difficult task," he said.

Oh poor diddums

 

[TootsieFootsie]

I wonder if they would still have got him without Russells phone being on.

 

[Cliff Hardy]

Lynn is being torn limb from limb, just as some of us suspected he would be. Terrible tactical move to let him take the stand and any juror who might have been feeling any sympathy for him previously, wouldn't be now. He's cooked.

 

[drsleuth]

I can't imagine the pain for Carol & Russell's friends & family , hearing how Lynn treated their bodies like trash.