Australia - Russell Hill & Carol Clay Murdered While Camping - Wonnangatta Valley, 2020 #9

[TootsieFootsie]

LYNN'S LETTER OF APOLOGY

Not aimed at you @wallyworld

 

[TootsieFootsie]

His letter of apology doesn't have anything really about Russell and Carol's suffering and having their lives cut short.

Apologies for the work he caused LE and the court, sheesh.

 

[Cedars]

Dermot Dann can lodge an appeal, but it doesn't mean an appeal will be granted. He will need to find specific allowable and valid grounds for an appeal, for one to be heard.

He now has 28 days in which to lodge an appeal.

Criminal appeals

Information about criminal appeals in the Victorian Court of Appeal.

www.supremecourt.vic.gov.au

Everybody appeals. You wouldn't be doing your well-paid job as a defense attorney if you didn't. Exactly how often are appeals in murder convictions successful?........trying hard to remember one. Police/prosecutors are not careless or sloppy, they've had lots of practise in putting killers away for good.

JMO

 

[TootsieFootsie]

 

[SouthAussie]

Everybody appeals. You wouldn't be doing your well-paid job as a defense attorney if you didn't. Exactly how often are appeals in murder convictions successful?........trying hard to remember one. Police/prosecutors are not careless or sloppy, they've had lots of practise in putting killers away for good.

JMO

I think it is more like everyone SAYS they are going to appeal. Whether they are granted leave to appeal is another matter.

These are the most recent Vic stats I could find.

2018
97% of sentences imposed in Victoria’s County and Supreme Courts are either not challenged or not changed on appeal, with less than 1% of sentences increased on appeal and just over 2% decreased on appeal Link

2014 report (tracking results of Victorian Law Reforms)
The review of Victoria Legal Aid’s appeals process has found that the number of criminal appeals in Victoria has almost halved over the past five years.
This reduction in appeal rates means Victoria is now largely consistent with the national average of one in 10 matters going on to the Court of Appeal. Link

 

[Cedars]

pathetic!

LYNN'S LETTER OF APOLOGY
In a letter to the court Lynn maintained his innocence.
‘Your honour I am disappointed and perplexed by the jury verdict as I have not killed anyone and will be respectfully appealing the decision.
'However I accept that my decision to flee the scene and attempt to disappear and all of my actions to that effect were selfish and callous in the extreme causing family and friends of both Carl Clay and Russell Hill much grief and stress for 20 long months.
'For those actions I am very sorry.
'At the time I had reasons but I understand they are no excuse and are of no interest to those that suffered.
'To detail any of that now would be insulting to the memory of Carol and Russell.
'I’m also very sorry for the trouble and work my decisions caused for Victorian emergency services both government and voluntary, to my previous employer and sporting clubs to which I belong, I apologise for the shame that my trial has caused.
'To my loving family, I am very sorry for the pain, shame and suffering they have endured.
'I understand that due to current community sentiment, my apology will likely be rejected by most.
'With heart felt regret for my own behaviour I humbly apologise regardless.
'I don’t ask for forgiveness, I am simply sorry for what I have done.’

Bombshell sentence for ex-Jetstar pilot Greg Lynn for murdering camper

Greg Lynn, 57, had pleaded not guilty in the Supreme Court of Victoria to the murders of Russell Hill, 74, and Ms Clay, 73, in the Wonnangatta Valley, in Victoria's Alpine region, on March 20, 2020.

www.dailymail.co.uk

My attempt at translation: "Everyone else is experiencing shame and suffering, but not me, no, I am perplexed. The whole thing was all very rational and logical and factual, and no one else's business but my own, yet these other people in the world confuse me with their over-the-top ridiculous emotions. I forgot that people apparently cared about this elderly couple that I so deeply despised. I see now where I made errors (drat that cellphone ping) and I am sorry I made one or two mistakes in my otherwise perfect plan. I was truly convinced I'd get away with it, and the clubs I worked so hard to join would never know. I can't believe that for all those months they were listening in on my private rants: That part was actually quite humiliating."

JMO

 

[jjleroche]

Yep... I was holding it together til then.

Thinking of you and your loved ones stacey_victoria. To have suffered such a loss, in the most vile of circumstances would be utterly devastating, and then to have to endure the stress of the trial, and everything that goes with that (including seeing the person responsible for your loss in court, proclaiming innocence) must have been gut-wrenching, way beyond the experiences of most of us.

To you, and all the loved ones of Carol Clay and Russell Hill, your grace under extreme pressure has been profoundly
awe-inspiring. You have done Carol and Russell proud.

Very best wishes.

 

[changintimes]

your timing is what I find disrespectful!

Intended launch of an appeal is being widely reported in the media currently IMO. Unfortunately it is a sign of the times and sometimes the appeal process can go against the convicted.

 

[MIG214222]

Non parole period is 24 years.

So now I am sure the appeal process will kick in.

Of course it will CIT, apart from being a lying, vicious, murderer - he's a walking ego after all, and as he's already shown, he has no concerns about the potential of frittering away the nest-egg of his missus & offspring while he fills up more rooms with his toxic flatulence.
Greg who?
Toddles off with his double chin - into the cells of obscurity, to serve his very justified time!!
MOO! MOO!
Grammar, feck!

 

[Trooper]

Intended launch of an appeal is being widely reported in the media currently IMO. Unfortunately it is a sign of the times and sometimes the appeal process can go against the convicted.

It is hard to recall a scenario where a bloke's barrister, just after the sentence is brought down by the judge doesn't line him/herself up outside the court, crisp jabot and wig glaring in the sunlight , giving the gathered press a stern and judicial look, eyebrows drawn, to claim, 'we are appealing'. Every barrister does it. Every convicted criminal is entitled to it.

the odds of an appeal being granted are slim, and the odds of that appeal being satisfactorily judged to the criminal's advantage are even slimmer. It is the pageantry of the court.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

I like that we have a civilised system that allows anyone the right to try for an appeal.
No matter my personal feelings, I won't blame anyone for using a legal right that is available to them.

 

[Trooper]

My god he cost Victorian taxpayers a lot of money.. all those police on a 20 month hunt, the equipment, helicopters, fixed wing, High Country vehicles, horse patrols, expeditionary groups, coppers from Mitta Mitta to Omeo , from Wangaratta to Falls Creek, some of the most difficult county in AU...through a harsh winter, and harsher summers...

 

[Cliff Hardy]

Justice is served.

 

[stacey_victoria]

Thinking of you and your loved ones stacey_victoria. To have suffered such a loss, in the most vile of circumstances would be utterly devastating, and then to have to endure the stress of the trial, and everything that goes with that (including seeing the person responsible for your loss in court, proclaiming innocence) must have been gut-wrenching, way beyond the experiences of most of us.

To you, and all the loved ones of Carol Clay and Russell Hill, your grace under extreme pressure has been profoundly
awe-inspiring. You have done Carol and Russell proud.

Very best wishes.

Thank you so much... this is the kindest thing.
May Russell and Carol finally rest in peace

 

[Trooper]

Mobile phone pings, a burnt-out campsite and the 'Button Man': Inside the missing campers investigation

A camping trip brought Carol Clay and Russell Hill to a remote pocket of Victoria — but the pair would never emerge from the Wonnangatta Valley.

www.abc.net.au

This might be of interest to people outside AU..

 

[Trooper]

Of course, having pled 'not guilty' , and consequently, having been found 'guilty,' he has lost the gamble all defendants take on, and is not in the running for any discount on his sentence.

 

[Bats]

I am really glad Justice Croucher acknowledged the dignity of Russell's family.

IMO, it is clear that the 'not guilty' verdict for Russell's death is not because the jury found he wasn't murdered.

Presumably the appeal would be for the 'guilty' verdict and not the length of sentence. I suppose you can't have it both ways.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Greg Lynn learns his fate over the murder of Victorian camper Carol Clay

Former airline pilot Greg Lynn will spend a minimum of 24 years behind bars for the "brutal" murder of camper Carol Clay, bringing an end to the long-running case.

startsat60.com

Justice Croucher also acknowledged the “profoundly moving” statements from Clay’s loved ones, later becoming emotional while addressing Hill’s family.

While they were not considered victims in the eyes of the law due to acquittal, Justice Croucher noted the pain they were clearly feeling.

“As one person to another, as a matter of common human decency, I should acknowledge their plight, their agony, their suffering – and I do,” the judge said.

 

[SouthAussie]

Justice is served.

Partially.
I would personally have liked to see him receive two murder convictions, and consecutive life sentences.
Hopefully karma will see that justice for Russell is served.

imo

 

[Detective Willy]

I think any smirk that remained on Lynn’s face has well and truly been wiped off by Justice Crouchers sentence today.

I love how justice Croucher took into account Lynn’s chance of rehabilitation.

Zero IMO and he saw through the charade and circus that Lynn and Dan tried to make this.