Australia Australia (SA) Trisha Graf, 41, Missing from Andamooka since 12 Dec 2025

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So, nobody knows nuffin.
 
  • #162
So, nobody knows nuffin.
I'm hoping the cops will get some forensic evidence from the car, mobiles locations and records, etc...
 
  • #163
She looks like a nice person.
 
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There is not much new in it.

Just says that someone knows something and that Trisha would have had no reason to go where her car was found.

There are some different photos of her, one holding Max as a baby.
 
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I'm hoping the cops will get some forensic evidence from the car, mobiles locations and records, etc...
And from the ripped open beer box , it's no easy feat to rip open the plastic casing on slabs of beer or the cardboard boxes they come in ,you really have to get your fingers in there
 
  • #171
This is the information put forward by Max on Ping’s YouTube;

.Trish and Kim went to Roxby Downs to buy alcohol for Tony.
.Tony forgot to transfer money into the savings account for the alcohol.
.Trisha’s car was found turned off, locked with the button on the key, passenger window was left down and the lights left on.
.1thong was found in the car, the other was outside the car broken.
. Max and Tony had never been to Blue Dam before.
.Tony was with his mate when they found the car after his friend suggested looking there.
. Trisha hit a small kangaroo on the way back from Roxby Downs. Then Trisha and Kim went to a man’s place called Smurf whom Trisha had never met before. Apparently she left there alone and hasn’t been seen since.
. Tony was home the night Trish went missing.
. The alcohol was found on the backseat of the car, the bag was ripped open and someone took a drink out.
. Trisha would never go out there and she wouldn’t drive like that.
. There were a couple of Wild Turkey cans scattered along the dirt road as well.
. Trisha apparently left the friends house at 2am. It was a 5 minute drive home.
. There are a lot of mine shafts out near the dam.
. The passenger side seat belt was done up. Kim had done this to stop it beeping. She wasn’t wearing it, she sat on it instead.
. Max and Tony don’t know if Kim went out to the dam with her or not.
. Tony went looking for Trisha at Kim’s mother’s house. She used the phone tracker and saw that Kim was at Smurf’s house but Trisha wasn’t there.
. Trisha was looking happy in the camera footage when she was last seen.
. Everything was still in the car . The air freshener had been ripped off and put in the cup holder in the central console.
. The roo only took out the front light. The rest of the damage was from something else.
. Trisha would never leave her kids and she’s a lovely lady.
. In the past she’s always stayed in contact.
. Trisha doesn’t drink VB. She wouldn’t have drank it.
. Her phone was left at home.
. The car key is in her hand in the picture.
. Max and Tony have no clue why Trisha would be out at Blue Dam.
. Trisha didn’t know Smurf at all.
. She only saw Kim a couple of times and had a couple of drinks.
. Trisha was really drunk that night, she had trouble walking to the toilet.
. Max and Tony are not sure how she could drive in that state or walk away from where the car was bogged.They don’t know why she was not found with her car.
. Trisha and Kim met through one of her friends in town.

Ping, you have a beautiful, kind way of talking to Max . Thanks for your show.
Can you ask Max were her thongs left on the passenger side or drivers side of the car please?
I assume police would've interviewed this individual named Smurf. Not accusing anyone of anything, but he would've been one of the last people to see Trishia.
 
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To me this looks like the damage you would see if someone clipped your car off the road ,no damage to car hood

What about a possibility of concussion if she did hit a kangaroo, don't want to default to murder atm
Kangaroos can certainly total a car. Surprised me that anyone ever drives at night in those country areas. The car could easily have been clipped by something else.
 
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Kangaroos can certainly total a car. Surprised me that anyone ever drives at night in those country areas. The car could easily have been clipped by something else.
In my inexperienced eyes it looks like the damage could be done by an inexperienced driver trying to mount the mound of dirt ,what is the white piping thing running along the hill
 
  • #174
In NZ thongs are called jandals.
No, just no. 🤣

I'm new to the case and I've only read some of the articles posted, so apologies if I've missed anything.
Bold comments below by me.
This is the information put forward by Max on Ping’s YouTube;

.Trish and Kim went to Roxby Downs to buy alcohol for Tony. Why? Why did Tony not go alone, or with Trish? Is this a common occurrence? What time did she arrive, and did she buy it and leave right away or hang out for a while? When was Tony expecting her home, and when did he want his beer? Why was Kim involved in the beer run?
.Tony forgot to transfer money into the savings account for the alcohol. Does he control the money? In a bad way? Did Trisha have a job to earn her own money? Why couldn't she transfer the money herself, before leaving? (I understand she didn't have her phone on her to do it online)
.Trisha’s car was found turned off, locked with the button on the key, passenger window was left down and the lights left on. Odd. Turning off and locking it may have been for safety, if it was an accident and she planned to walk somewhere for help. Having the window open may have been forgotten in that scenario. Leaving lights on is weird, but may suggest being disoriented, or requiring light to look at the situation or to see which way to walk to get help. If there was someone else there and something untoward happened, I doubt they'd want light shining like a beacon.
.1thong was found in the car, the other was outside the car broken. Suggests a struggle, impaired in some way, or shock due to the accident
. Max and Tony had never been to Blue Dam before. But has Trisha? And if so, why? Is it a common hangout area? What is it typically used for?
.Tony was with his mate when they found the car after his friend suggested looking there. Do we know why he suggested this place? Is it known for something? Was it just one of many locations thrown out as an idea of where to look?
. Trisha hit a small kangaroo on the way back from Roxby Downs. Then Trisha and Kim went to a man’s place called Smurf whom Trisha had never met before. Apparently she left there alone and hasn’t been seen since. "small" kangaroo? The damage doesn't necessarily equate to a small one, but that's addressed later. How/where was the roo hit, and did it bound away or should it be on the roadside somewhere if hurt badly enough? Can we trust that this actually happened, as there's only 1 witness. Who is Smurf to Kim, and why did they go there? Why did she stay for around a hour?
. Tony was home the night Trish went missing. Again, why did he not get his own beer, or at least accompany Trisha?
. The alcohol was found on the backseat of the car, the bag was ripped open and someone took a drink out. Do we know for sure a drink was missing, as per hotel records of purchase, or footage of her leaving with more? I assume the heavy plastic was fingerprinted? It's quite strong and hard to open.
. Trisha would never go out there and she wouldn’t drive like that. How can he be so sure she wouldn't go there? Exactly what does he mean "she wouldn't drive like that"? With that damage? Drive crazily? Get herself into an accident where she lost control?
. There were a couple of Wild Turkey cans scattered along the dirt road as well. Could be coincidence. Have they been fingerprinted? Are they fresh? Did Trisha drink them?
. Trisha apparently left the friends house at 2am. It was a 5 minute drive home. Apparently. Was she alone? Was she followed? Was there an argument at the house? Why did she stay so long?
. There are a lot of mine shafts out near the dam. Hmmm
. The passenger side seat belt was done up. Kim had done this to stop it beeping. She wasn’t wearing it, she sat on it instead. Rightio. Makes so much sense to do it up, then sit on it. 🤔 It most definitely could happen, but why wouldn't you just wear the seatbelt?
. Max and Tony don’t know if Kim went out to the dam with her or not. What does Kim have to say? Allegedly Trisha left Smurf's place alone, right? And Trisha had been her ride that night. Does Kim have a car and where was it that night? Where did Kim sleep that night?
. Tony went looking for Trisha at Kim’s mother’s house. She used the phone tracker and saw that Kim was at Smurf’s house but Trisha wasn’t there. Why look at Kim's mum's house, is that where Kim lived? Does Kim's mum have the ability to track her daughter's phone? Is Smurf Kim's partner/hook up?
. Trisha was looking happy in the camera footage when she was last seen. Exactly where was she last seen? Is that the overhead footage of her walking outside?
. Everything was still in the car . The air freshener had been ripped off and put in the cup holder in the central console. Weird. I wonder if it was just placed there or ripped off in a struggle and just ended up there. Are we talking a hanging one from the mirror (elastic broken might suggest a struggle) or a clip on air vent one (was it just pulled off or damaged in any way)?
. The roo only took out the front light. The rest of the damage was from something else. I assume Kim said this? We have no reason to not believe her, but is this damage meant to have happened AFTER the roo hit and AFTER leaving Smurf's? It's quite extensive and there must be something large the car hit. Does that thing also have damage or white paint on it?
. Trisha would never leave her kids and she’s a lovely lady. This doesn't bode well.
. In the past she’s always stayed in contact. She didn't have her phone though, right? And far enough from civilisation.
. Trisha doesn’t drink VB. She wouldn’t have drank it. Would Kim?
. Her phone was left at home. Accidently? is that common?
. The car key is in her hand in the picture. They are missing too aren't they?
. Max and Tony have no clue why Trisha would be out at Blue Dam.
. Trisha didn’t know Smurf at all.
. She only saw Kim a couple of times and had a couple of drinks. So they're not close friends? How long have they known each other and how did they meet?
. Trisha was really drunk that night, she had trouble walking to the toilet. Says who? Staff and bar patrons? Kim? She appears to be walking OK in the overhead footage we saw, but that is just a tiny snippet. She apparently drove to Smurf's place OK, despite being unable to walk properly. Don't hold the roo incident against her, it happens often to the most sober drivers.
. Max and Tony are not sure how she could drive in that state or walk away from where the car was bogged.They don’t know why she was not found with her car. I agree, if she was actually staggering and drunk. Why would Kim get in the car with her, or not take over driving?
. Trisha and Kim met through one of her friends in town.

Ping, you have a beautiful, kind way of talking to Max . Thanks for your show.
Can you ask Max were her thongs left on the passenger side or drivers side of the car please?
Thanks for this clarification on some of the events.

I have some more questions too
  • Were her kids at a planned sleepover? Did that happen regularly?
  • When did Tony first worry she wasn't home? When he awoke the next morning?
  • How long did Tony search before finding the car?
As for the car, it appears to be well maintained and clean. Is it a work vehicle perhaps? What are the things I've circled? One appears to be maybe part of an old structure, and the other maybe yellow tape or plastic? I wonder if she was perhaps being followed or there was a road rage incident and another car may have damage too. If it's true that most of this damage didn't occur when they hit the roo, what was hit, and where? Are there parts of the vehicle elsewhere, even small bits of plastic?

And the all important question, who is Smurf and have police found him to talk to?
 

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  • #175
Hmmmm. Not liking this one.

Coincidence that the younger children were at a sleepover the night their mum goes missing? Or was this a regular occurrence?

The whole going out for beers doesn't make sense, the children weren't home, so why did she head out alone and then was gone hours but not reported missing until the next day?

Not taking her phone, I get you feel safe in your own community but what if you hit a kangaroo and can't drive home...

I can get behind the kangaroo damage. I'm in the UK and hitting a deer in your car can kill you, let alone your car! Kangaroos are beefy!! 🥊🥊

The strange visit to Smurf's house is dodgy too.

To me it looks like she has been run off the road and dragged out the car by someone in a rage. Hence the positioning of the thongs/flip flops. Interesting that drinks were missing from the car too apparently.

All my own opinion and speculation at this point.
 
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To me it looks like she has been run off the road and dragged out the car by someone in a rage. Hence the positioning of the thongs/flip flops. Interesting that drinks were missing from the car too apparently.
I don't know, the location of the car (Blue Dam) does not make sense.
She wouldn't have any reason to be there if the story about her leaving Smurf's house to go home is true. Her house is ~5 mins from Smurf's house, so why did she drive 4km out of town to Blue Dam in the first place?
I think it's more likely that the car was dumped there by someone else, but this opens up a whole can of worms of questions...
And we don't know what else they may have found in/around the car.

I really hope SA police will give an update on the investigation soon.
 
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This is the information put forward by Max on Ping’s YouTube;

.Trish and Kim went to Roxby Downs to buy alcohol for Tony.
.Tony forgot to transfer money into the savings account for the alcohol.
.Trisha’s car was found turned off, locked with the button on the key, passenger window was left down and the lights left on.
.1thong was found in the car, the other was outside the car broken.
. Max and Tony had never been to Blue Dam before.
.Tony was with his mate when they found the car after his friend suggested looking there.
. Trisha hit a small kangaroo on the way back from Roxby Downs. Then Trisha and Kim went to a man’s place called Smurf whom Trisha had never met before. Apparently she left there alone and hasn’t been seen since.
. Tony was home the night Trish went missing.
. The alcohol was found on the backseat of the car, the bag was ripped open and someone took a drink out.
. Trisha would never go out there and she wouldn’t drive like that.
. There were a couple of Wild Turkey cans scattered along the dirt road as well.
. Trisha apparently left the friends house at 2am. It was a 5 minute drive home.
. There are a lot of mine shafts out near the dam.
. The passenger side seat belt was done up. Kim had done this to stop it beeping. She wasn’t wearing it, she sat on it instead.
. Max and Tony don’t know if Kim went out to the dam with her or not.
. Tony went looking for Trisha at Kim’s mother’s house. She used the phone tracker and saw that Kim was at Smurf’s house but Trisha wasn’t there.
. Trisha was looking happy in the camera footage when she was last seen.
. Everything was still in the car . The air freshener had been ripped off and put in the cup holder in the central console.
. The roo only took out the front light. The rest of the damage was from something else.
. Trisha would never leave her kids and she’s a lovely lady.
. In the past she’s always stayed in contact.
. Trisha doesn’t drink VB. She wouldn’t have drank it.
. Her phone was left at home.
. The car key is in her hand in the picture.
. Max and Tony have no clue why Trisha would be out at Blue Dam.
. Trisha didn’t know Smurf at all.
. She only saw Kim a couple of times and had a couple of drinks.
. Trisha was really drunk that night, she had trouble walking to the toilet.
. Max and Tony are not sure how she could drive in that state or walk away from where the car was bogged.They don’t know why she was not found with her car.
. Trisha and Kim met through one of her friends in town.

Ping, you have a beautiful, kind way of talking to Max . Thanks for your show.
Can you ask Max were her thongs left on the passenger side or drivers side of the car please?
Firstly, the passenger window was down. Then the passenger side seat belt was done up. Then Trisha sat on it. Was she the passenger in the car at this stage?
 
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Great write up. Thank you.
I have noticed you have deleted your account, but I will reply regardless for other members, or if you decide to reactivate your account.
Note: my replies are for my own questions to myself, of course, I encourage others to critique.
This is the information put forward by Max on Ping’s YouTube;

.Trish and Kim went to Roxby Downs to buy alcohol for Tony.
If the children were being looked after elsewhere, why didn't Tony travel with Trisha to purchase the alcohol?
.Tony forgot to transfer money into the savings account for the alcohol.
A small detail but as a couple, one would assume finances would be more open. Why didn't Trisha take Tony's card?
.Trisha’s car was found turned off, locked with the button on the key, passenger window was left down and the lights left on.
Looks like the occupants in the car left in a haste after the vehicle was stuck on the mound in the middle of the night. I have no doubt who was in the vehicle forgot to wind up the window.
.1thong was found in the car, the other was outside the car broken.
Was the broken thong near the drivers or passengers side?
. Max and Tony had never been to Blue Dam before.
Why did Tonys friend direct him to that direction? Why did Tony agree without first searching the township first?
.Tony was with his mate when they found the car after his friend suggested looking there.
see above
. Trisha hit a small kangaroo on the way back from Roxby Downs.
That damage was not caused by a small kangaroo, but rather a fixed object such as a rock or kerb.

Why a small kangaroo, and not a kangaroo? Why declare it was small?
Then Trisha and Kim went to a man’s place called Smurf whom Trisha had never met before.
Seems suspicious, this Mr Smurf.
There is a saying 'Do not follow people to a second location'.
Apparently she left there alone and hasn’t been seen since.
Was it Kymmy or Smurf that made that declaration? Why did Kymmy take Trisha there in the first place.
. Tony was home the night Trish went missing.
No children with him. Why didn't he travel with Trisha?
. The alcohol was found on the backseat of the car, the bag was ripped open and someone took a drink out.
At what time was the beer taken? Was it on the way to blue dam? Surely Trisha wouldn't drink her partners beer herself.
. Trisha would never go out there and she wouldn’t drive like that.
Certainly not by herself. But what about with Tony?
. There were a couple of Wild Turkey cans scattered along the dirt road as well.
That must be either purchased by Kymmy at the hotel or given to whoever drove Trisha's car by Smurf.
. Trisha apparently left the friends house at 2am. It was a 5 minute drive home.
Obviously, Tony could not contact Trisha, as she forgot her phone. Why didn't Tony contact Kymmy on her phone or call the hotel?
. There are a lot of mine shafts out near the dam.
Very convenient to dispose of a body.
. The passenger side seat belt was done up. Kim had done this to stop it beeping. She wasn’t wearing it, she sat on it instead.
But it wasn't Kymmys car? Why not utilise the seat belt as designed to stop the beeping. I have tried sitting on a seat, with a seatbelt already attached in 3 vehicles. It is very uncomfortable and a pointless exercise. Was the seatbelt used to hold an object in place?
. Max and Tony don’t know if Kim went out to the dam with her or not.
I was under the assumption that Trisha and Kymmy hadn't been friends for that long to make such a trip when Trisha has under-age children. Why go out there anyway?
. Tony went looking for Trisha at Kim’s mother’s house. She used the phone tracker and saw that Kim was at Smurf’s house but Trisha wasn’t there.
When did Tony visit Kymmys mother? Was it before Tony and his friend found Trisha's car, or afterwards?
What time did they check the phone tracker to locate Trisha? Why not a simple call?
How did Tony find Kymmys mother so soon? They knew each other beforehand? Even when Kymmy and Trisha only recently starting associating with each other?
. Trisha was looking happy in the camera footage when she was last seen.
She looks none the wiser. So an a assumption is no money issues/drugs involved?
. Everything was still in the car . The air freshener had been ripped off and put in the cup holder in the central console.
Some men do that when they drive a women's car for the first time.
. The roo only took out the front light. The rest of the damage was from something else.
So there were two accidents that night? If the small kangaroo did take out the light, why not the bonnet as well? Especially driving at a maximum speed limit.
. Trisha would never leave her kids and she’s a lovely lady.
Those statements always sound suspicious. It is like reading from a script.
. In the past she’s always stayed in contact.
Did she leave without notifying anyone before, but made contact afterwards?
. Trisha doesn’t drink VB. She wouldn’t have drank it.
Does Smurf?
. Her phone was left at home.
Is that a common occurrence?
. The car key is in her hand in the picture.
But also looks to be a dark bank/credit card there as well as the key and fob.
. Max and Tony have no clue why Trisha would be out at Blue Dam.
Do they know why Tony's friend took them there?
. Trisha didn’t know Smurf at all.
Why did Kymmy take Smurf there? Does Tony know Smurf?
. She only saw Kim a couple of times and had a couple of drinks.
See my comment above. How did Tony know Kymmys mother?
. Trisha was really drunk that night, she had trouble walking to the toilet.
Why did Tony send her to purchase his alcohol if she was drunk? Or was she was drunk at Smurfs? There is not enough of a time gap for Trish's to be drunk at the hotel.
. Max and Tony are not sure how she could drive in that state or walk away from where the car was bogged.
But why would she drive there in the first place?
They don’t know why she was not found with her car.
I would hope not? Why make that declaration?
. Trisha and Kim met through one of her friends in town.
Who is this particular friend? Does Tony know of him/her?
Ping, you have a beautiful, kind way of talking to Max . Thanks for your show.
Can you ask Max were her thongs left on the passenger side or drivers side of the car please?
I occur to both your statement and question.
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My opinion on the interview is that Tony left more questions to be asked, than he answered in the first instance.

Take that what you will.
 
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