Found Deceased Australia - Samuel Thompson, 22, Albion, Qld, 7 March 2017 *Arrests* #3

[possumheart]

Wondering if this is Sam's apartment as it is pet friendly, is the right price, one bedroom, and has just come up for rent.
http://www.rent.com.au/property/87-...2291648?search_token=f10b7dc03904f90a6be0d5f6

 

[possumheart]

(see the paw)

 

[Karinna]

How is it relevant to the murder of Sam? Sam's parents aren't criminals no matter how odd anyone perceives their behaviour because the situation wasn't normal. The police feared Sam was murdered and they were correct. Sam's parents were visibly shaken by the horror that their beloved son was dead and maybe, there was a glimmer of hope that he survived something awful that could account for what the police had already uncovered. That's all we need to know, imo.

Again my thoughts exactly. I could not comprehend the nightmare they are enduring, and their worst fears becoming fact, & my heart breaks for them

 

[Drb]

Absolutely my point. Id rather be known for my degree than my other jobs for 30 years of my working life

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[matey]

How is it relevant to the murder of Sam? Sam's parents aren't criminals no matter how odd anyone perceives their behaviour because the situation wasn't normal. The police feared Sam was murdered and they were correct. Sam's parents were visibly shaken by the horror that their beloved son was dead and maybe, there was a glimmer of hope that he survived something awful that could account for what the police had already uncovered. That's all we need to know, imo.

When you look at the "family address" in the "QPS Crime Map"...there are a LOT of crimes at that address...

It is not a "one off" and it's likely that the parents knew something of Sam's life...

They could have been blinded by parental love or perhaps threatened if they spoke up...

There is much more that we don't know but Sam's FB page says a lot ...some messages are covert...others not so much.

 

[MsAnais]

When you look at the "family address" in the "QPS Crime Map"...there are a LOT of crimes at that address...

It is not a "one off" and it's likely that the parents knew something of Sam's life...

They could have been blinded by parental love or perhaps threatened if they spoke up...

There is much more that we don't know but Sam's FB page says a lot ...some messages are covert...others not so much.

BBM

Exactly.

And that's what's prompted people to re-examine the press conference in a new light, I think. Finding out about all the crimes at the family home kind of tilted some of our perceptions of the case.

In my understanding, no one's casting moral judgements on the parents or saying they're responsible in any way for what happened to Sam......people are just trying to get a handle on a slippery case that seems multi-layered.

The more you dig, the more unusual info seems to emerge. :thinking:

JMO.

 

[Karinna]

BBM

Exactly.

And that's what's prompted people to re-examine the press conference in a new light, I think. Finding out about all the crimes at the family home kind of tilted some of our perceptions of the case.

In my understanding, no one's casting moral judgements on the parents or saying they're responsible in any way for what happened to Sam......people are just trying to get a handle on a slippery case that seems multi-layered.

The more you dig, the more unusual info seems to emerge. :thinking:

JMO.

Where are all these crimes that happened at the family home? Do you know Sam's family & how long they lived at the address where all these crimes supposedly happened? Is it even the right address you are talking about? And how high of a crime area is it?
From what i can tell Sam wanted out of the family home because he was a young adult, as most young adults aim for their independence at some stage. Anything else could just be coincidental IMO.
Sam's dad mentioned they would see their son once or twice per week but otherwise they were in phone contact.

 

[MsAnais]

Where are all these crimes that happened at the family home? Do you know Sam's family & how long they lived at the address where all these crimes supposedly happened? Is it even the right address you are talking about? And how high of a crime area is it?
From what i can tell Sam wanted out of the family home because he was a young adult, as most young adults aim for their independence at some stage. Anything else could just be coincidental IMO.

The crimes that are on record as occurring in the family home were detailed many times earlier in the thread, along with the links to that data.

And if you recall, we discussed it in comparison to the houses around it and it was still oddly high.

And yes, I do know how long the family has owned the house. (so do many others - that information is available on the public record).

 

[Karinna]

The crimes that are on record as occurring in the family home were detailed many times earlier in the thread, along with the links to that data.

And if you recall, we discussed it in comparison to the houses around it and it was still oddly high.

And yes, I do know how long the family has owned the house. (so do many others - that information is available on the public record).

Well LE have only mentioned one burglary to date. Perhaps Sam's family was targeted by thieves because of all the nice things they had? As we know they stole ST's watches, designer bag, & vehicle. It does happen. That's why i asked about being a high crime area or not.

 

[MsAnais]

Where are all these crimes that happened at the family home? Do you know Sam's family & how long they lived at the address where all these crimes supposedly happened? Is it even the right address you are talking about? And how high of a crime area is it?
From what i can tell Sam wanted out of the family home because he was a young adult, as most young adults aim for their independence at some stage. Anything else could just be coincidental IMO.
Sam's dad mentioned they would see their son once or twice per week but otherwise they were in phone contact.

BBM

Sam's dad was referring to the time just prior to Sam's death, when he lived in an apartment by himself.

That has nothing to do with the family home, which is what we are talking about atm. (the family home is where the robbery occurred in Sept 2016 - Sam moved out the next day, as stated by his father in MSM).

 

[PrimeSuspect]

When you look at the "family address" in the "QPS Crime Map"...there are a LOT of crimes at that address...

It is not a "one off" and it's likely that the parents knew something of Sam's life...

They could have been blinded by parental love or perhaps threatened if they spoke up...

There is much more that we don't know but Sam's FB page says a lot ...some messages are covert...others not so much.

I understand there's a curiosity about Sam's family and how much they knew about Sam's drug dealing, which I have to add, is pure speculation on our part. Is it fact that Sam's parents lived at those premises during that period, if at all?
RB and AD's parents won't be under the same level of judgment and scrutiny as Sam's parents, and rightfully so.

IMO, these discussions keep getting sidelined regarding RB and AD because of questionable personal anecdotes which describe these characters as, peace loving and hard done by individuals who are victims of circumstance. Even from the little we know, this isn't the case.

RB and AD discarded Sam's body and carried on like normal hoping to escape justice. They have little regard for human life and the suffering that Sam's family endured not knowing if he was alive or dead. RB and AD should be under the microscope and they will be once it goes to trial and the tales they tell. imo

 

[MsAnais]

I understand there's a curiosity about Sam's family and how much they knew about Sam's drug dealing, which I have to add, is pure speculation on our part. Is it fact that Sam's parents lived at those premises during that period, if at all?
RB and AD's parents won't be under the same level of judgment and scrutiny as Sam's parents, and rightfully so.

IMO, these discussions keep getting sidelined regarding RB and AD because of questionable personal anecdotes which describe these characters as, peace loving and hard done by individuals who are victims of circumstance. Even from the little we know, this isn't the case.

RB and AD discarded Sam's body and carried on like normal hoping to escape justice. They have little regard for human life and the suffering that Sam's family endured not knowing if he was alive or dead. RB and AD should be under the microscope and they will be once it goes to trial and the tales they tell. imo

Hi Prime :seeya:

I personally don't think that RB and AD are peace-loving OR hard done by. Nor do I think they're victims of circumstance. My personal opinion of them is not high at all, but that's beside the point here.

For me, I think that clues to what went down are found by examining Sam and his life. Which is what LE do all the time....fully examine the victim's life.

But whenever we try to do this publicly on the thread, there is often an emotive, moralistic response and we are totally slammed for it. I'm struggling with that. We're not victim bashing, we're not family-of-victim bashing....we're just exploring all areas.

This isn't a black and white case imo....it's quite complex from the sleuthing we've done behind the scenes.

 

[Karinna]

BBM

Sam's dad was referring to the time just prior to Sam's death, when he lived in an apartment by himself.

That has nothing to do with the family home, which is what we are talking about atm. (the family home is where the robbery occurred in Sept 2016 - Sam moved out the next day, as stated by his father in MSM).

And my point was that Sam moving out could be totally unrelated to anything else.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

BBM

Exactly.

And that's what's prompted people to re-examine the press conference in a new light, I think. Finding out about all the crimes at the family home kind of tilted some of our perceptions of the case.

In my understanding, no one's casting moral judgements on the parents or saying they're responsible in any way for what happened to Sam......people are just trying to get a handle on a slippery case that seems multi-layered.

The more you dig, the more unusual info seems to emerge. :thinking:

JMO.

I have to disagree anais. It's disrespectful imo to describe the manner of a parent's speech while under unimaginable duress pleading for the return of their son. This isn't GBC or Kristi Abrahams fooling the public. Sam's parents are the victims and we should continue to remind ourselves instead of casting aspersions on their character for being the parents of Samuel Thompson. JMO

 

[possumheart]

I have to disagree anais. It's disrespectful imo to describe the manner of a parent's speech while under unimaginable duress pleading for the return of their son. This isn't GBC or Kristi Abrahams fooling the public. Sam's parents are the victims and we should continue to remind ourselves instead of casting aspersions on their character for being the parents of Samuel Thompson. JMO

Is it casting aspersions, or trying to understand, and to decipher the situation?

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Is it casting aspersions, or trying to understand, and to decipher the situation?

I fear I'm going the rabbit hole here. I'm expressing concern where this is leading. These threads are most likely read by Sam's family and why cause them more pain?

 

[Karinna]

I fear I'm going the rabbit hole here. I'm expressing concern where this is leading. These threads are most likely read by Sam's family and why cause them more pain?

I know what you are saying and agree, I also would like to reiterate that there are posters on WS that have been victim to a murder in their own family too.

 

[possumheart]

I fear I'm going the rabbit hole here. I'm expressing concern where this is leading. These threads are most likely read by Sam's family and why cause them more pain?

That is the last thing I personally would want to do. I would hope that by trying to understand, that I was showing empathy. I come here to try and figure out what the heck leads to these things, not to be a spectator at a train wreck, not to cheer in a lynch mob, and certainly not to engage in circular vague arguments.
I only hope that the truth about what happened to Sam, whatever it may be, and whatever led to it becomes a cautionary tale. I stated that position way, way back in the threads.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

That is the last thing I personally would want to do. I would hope that by trying to understand, that I was showing empathy. I come here to try and figure out what the heck leads to these things, not to be a spectator at a train wreck, not to cheer in a lynch mob, and certainly not to engage in circular vague arguments.
I only hope that the truth about what happened to Sam, whatever it may be, and whatever led to it becomes a cautionary tale. I stated that position way, way back in the threads.

I come here to figure out the mind of the killer and to witness justice being seen and done. I value yours and anais's posts and I do understand what you're saying but this forum isn't constructed that way, it's 100% victim friendly. This is how threads get shut down.

 

[MsAnais]

I come here to figure out the mind of the killer and to witness justice being seen and done. I value yours and anais's posts and I do understand what you're saying but this forum isn't constructed that way, it's 100% victim friendly. This is how threads get shut down.

I get what you're saying too, Prime. :star: