I'd think if power savings was initiated that it wouldn't effect the signal strength. The focus is on killing apps and using lower settings to preserve power to keep the phone alive for, mostly, phone use.
Australia Australia - Theo Hayez, 18, Belgian backpacker, Byron Bay, June 2019 #3
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Update timeline Theo after leaving CM:
- 23:07 he exited CM
- 23:08 he stops briefly in Kingsley
- 23:08 ->11:13 walks to the end of Tennyson
- 23:13 stops for 7 minutes
- 23:21 left the slab at the end of Tennyson and went to Massinger Street at 6km/hr
- then walked up hill from Massinger Str, to Milne St. at 4,5 km/hr
- 23: 30 reaches Milne Str.
- then enters Milne track and reaches T-junction in 5 minutes at 7,5km/hr
- then walks for 8 minutes at a little more than 4 km/hr
- stears around Tommy's invisible camp site
- location where Theo's cap was found = between Tommy's camp site and the beach
- 23:48 reaches the beach through a tiny path at a gully with an abandoned camp site
- Theo looks up WU again and walks for 8 minutes to CC at 6km/hr
- 23:56 (+/-) walks up hill and stops for 5,5 minutes in a hidden clearing at about 20m from the sand
- 00:03 Theo / Theo's phone goes back to the beach in less than 2 minutes
- 00:05 GPS tracing stops
- but the phone continued sending signals till the afternoon of June 1st
- 00:20 sends Messenger message to friend Lou in French about U2 Tour: ugh, in September or something?'
- 00:23 watches YouTube Burger quiz for 1 minute and 50 seconds
- 00:55 sends WA message
- 00:56 sends WA message to stepsister in Belgium of a kiss emoji and 'merci'
- 01:01 Theo's phone zoomed in on the location of his hostel on GM, the phone GPS appears to have still been off because the location of the phone was not recorded
- +/- 02:00 - +/- 06:00 phone in 'sleep' mode
- between 2 and 4am the final Google location was recorded "near town"
- +/- 04:00 moon rises and there is moonlight
- +/- 06:00 phone exits 'sleep' mode (what triggered this?)
- +/- 13:00 of June 1st, last ping, originating from Cape Byron, not from CC
Sources: Podcasts. In red: update from Podcast6, at 41:00 and other
@SouthAussie ; please feel free to add info in the timeline the coming days as I might not be able to do so. I'll notify as soon as I will be able to pick up again. Thanks!
- 23:07 he exited CM
- 23:08 he stops briefly in Kingsley
- 23:08 ->11:13 walks to the end of Tennyson
- 23:13 stops for 7 minutes
- 23:21 left the slab at the end of Tennyson and went to Massinger Street at 6km/hr
- then walked up hill from Massinger Str, to Milne St. at 4,5 km/hr
- 23: 30 reaches Milne Str.
- then enters Milne track and reaches T-junction in 5 minutes at 7,5km/hr
- then walks for 8 minutes at a little more than 4 km/hr
- stears around Tommy's invisible camp site
- location where Theo's cap was found = between Tommy's camp site and the beach
- 23:48 reaches the beach through a tiny path at a gully with an abandoned camp site
- Theo looks up WU again and walks for 8 minutes to CC at 6km/hr
- 23:56 (+/-) walks up hill and stops for 5,5 minutes in a hidden clearing at about 20m from the sand
- 00:03 Theo / Theo's phone goes back to the beach in less than 2 minutes
- 00:05 GPS tracing stops
- but the phone continued sending signals till the afternoon of June 1st
- 00:20 sends Messenger message to friend Lou in French about U2 Tour: ugh, in September or something?'
- 00:23 watches YouTube Burger quiz for 1 minute and 50 seconds
- 00:55 sends WA message
- 00:56 sends WA message to stepsister in Belgium of a kiss emoji and 'merci'
- 01:01 Theo's phone zoomed in on the location of his hostel on GM, the phone GPS appears to have still been off because the location of the phone was not recorded
- +/- 02:00 - +/- 06:00 phone in 'sleep' mode
- between 2 and 4am the final Google location was recorded "near town"
- +/- 04:00 moon rises and there is moonlight
- +/- 06:00 phone exits 'sleep' mode (what triggered this?)
- +/- 13:00 of June 1st, last ping, originating from Cape Byron, not from CC
Sources: Podcasts. In red: update from Podcast6, at 41:00 and other
@SouthAussie ; please feel free to add info in the timeline the coming days as I might not be able to do so. I'll notify as soon as I will be able to pick up again. Thanks!
It would be interesting to know what time those initial messages were sent to Theo...there is a 35 minute gap between those replies...
But ya not g
I don't IMO think ya gonna go hitting rabbits or wild dogs with "The Judge" on ya stick... :/
But is "ugh" a generally term used?
I have seen it in some other cases here on WS...generally an American term? I'm not to up on terms that teens use...
And from what I have seen it is a dissapointment term....
I guess, what I am asking everyone, is it a worldly used term?
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Was he pacing up and down? Or was someone throwing his phone back and forth? How long dis he pace that slab? I haven't listened to the entire podcast...excuse my ignorance...
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No worries. Have updated with Rocket's input about the T-junction ... and also the drop in strength of the phone signal.
- 23:07 he exited CM
- 23:08 he stops briefly in Kingsley
- 23:08 ->11:13 walks to the end of Tennyson
- 23:13 stops for 7 minutes
- 23:21 left the slab at the end of Tennyson and went to Massinger Street at 6km/hr
- then walked up hill from Massinger Str, to Milne St. at 4,5 km/hr
- 23: 30 reaches Milne Str.
- then enters Milne track and reaches T-junction in 5 minutes at 7,5km/hr
- stops at T-junction for a minute and searches WU hostel
- then walks for 8 minutes at a little more than 4 km/hr
- steers around Tommy's invisible camp site
- location where Theo's cap was found = between Tommy's camp site and the beach
- 23:48 reaches the beach through a tiny path at a gully with an abandoned camp site
- Theo looks up WU again and walks for 8 minutes to CC at 6km/hr
- 23:56 (+/-) walks up hill and stops for 5,5 minutes in a hidden clearing at about 20m from the sand
- 00:03 Theo / Theo's phone goes back to the beach in less than 2 minutes
- 00:05 GPS tracing stops
- but the phone continued sending signals till the afternoon of June 1st
- 00:20 sends Messenger message to friend Lou in French about U2 Tour: ugh, in September or something?'
- 00:23 watches YouTube Burger quiz for 1 minute and 50 seconds
- 00:55 sends WA message
- 00:56 ping location point “near town”
- 00:56 sends WA message to stepsister in Belgium of a kiss emoji and 'merci'
- 01:01 Theo's phone zoomed in on the location of his hostel on GM, the phone GPS appears to have still been off because the location of the phone was not recorded
- +/- 02:00 - +/- 06:00 phone in 'sleep' mode – drop in strength of phone signal
- +/- 04:00 moon rises and there is moonlight
- +/- 06:00 phone exits 'sleep' mode (what triggered this?)
- 13:42 of June 1st, last ping, originating from Cape Byron, not from CC
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That's a good thought. Was someone messing with Theo and his phone at this point?
I believe this was during the 7 mins at the rec grounds, when Theo's phone movements were thought to be up and back along the cricket pitch ... as stated in the 6th podcast.
Maybe a bit of chasing someone who took his phone up and back, then "Aww c'mon mate, no hard feelings, here's your phone. I'll show you where the doofs are usually held"?
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Unfortunately Jenz we have some unwell and cruel people out there to do take pleasure in this sort of activity.
In some cases, animal cruelty is where it has started for Serial Killers.
The fact the stick had "The Judge" on it, it does open up the possibility of some form of sacrifice killing or ritual or just some sick individual who is testing their ability with animals before moving on to humans.
Especially those involved in cults or satanic rituals I would still consider Busters post to hold some possibility.
Animal sacrifice - Wikipedia
Animal sacrifice should generally be distinguished from the religiously-prescribed methods of ritual slaughter of animals for normal consumption as food.
It’s a bit too ambiguous to bother with I think. I often write “argh” in response to something not too good, and often pronounce that as “arrr”.
So I hear “urgh” and “ugh” as “errr” and “arrr”, like “ummmm hmmmm not sure”.
When I listen to Laurent and Lisa, they say “umm” as “errrr” which could be spelled as “urgh”. I just doubt an Aussie would write “urgh”.
Skateboard, bike maybe? Seems he stayed on the concrete....
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To clarify, the full message was in French, “ugh, in September or something?”
It’s in the updated timeline.
It’s in the updated timeline.
I'm thinking there's a remote possibility that the phone signal strength dropped because it was in water. That phone won't last long submerged though.
We all also know how a signal can drop due to outside conditions.
We all also know how a signal can drop due to outside conditions.
I reckon it was off and physically turned on.
Do we know the exact period of time the phone signal strength dropped?
In reference to the ‘weakened phone signal’ the police said was the reason they think he went up over the hill. I’ve been wondering what can cause a weakened phone signal. Did a bit of reading and there are a quite a few reasons, black spots, environmental, building materials etc.
Under environmental factors it lists hilly terrain, but also dense bushland as well as wind and rain. I couldn’t find much on whether a low battery can cause a weakened phone signal. One page I read said if a phone battery is critically low it can weaken the signal. I have three questions which I’m not too sure on. If it’s been answered before I apologise but would love someone slightly more tech savvy to shed some light for me if they can.
1- could Theo’s phone battery have been low and caused the phone to go into low power/sleep mode?
2- could the phone being low cause the weakened mobile signal?
3- if hilly terrain can cause a weakened signal, and knowing rain and wind can as well, did it rain heavily at all from 2-6 and/or was there a strong enough wind that could cause the phone to have a weakened signal?
4-( I know I said 3 but I just thought I’d add this question as well) I know the police have said the phone handed in by the CC corner party people, the one they found buried was not Theo’s. However just wanted to get clarification again weather a phone that was still on is buried in sand, will it still have a signal, and if so can it be a weaker one?
Under environmental factors it lists hilly terrain, but also dense bushland as well as wind and rain. I couldn’t find much on whether a low battery can cause a weakened phone signal. One page I read said if a phone battery is critically low it can weaken the signal. I have three questions which I’m not too sure on. If it’s been answered before I apologise but would love someone slightly more tech savvy to shed some light for me if they can.
1- could Theo’s phone battery have been low and caused the phone to go into low power/sleep mode?
2- could the phone being low cause the weakened mobile signal?
3- if hilly terrain can cause a weakened signal, and knowing rain and wind can as well, did it rain heavily at all from 2-6 and/or was there a strong enough wind that could cause the phone to have a weakened signal?
4-( I know I said 3 but I just thought I’d add this question as well) I know the police have said the phone handed in by the CC corner party people, the one they found buried was not Theo’s. However just wanted to get clarification again weather a phone that was still on is buried in sand, will it still have a signal, and if so can it be a weaker one?
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