Australia Australia - Theo Hayez, 18, Belgian backpacker, Byron Bay, June 2019 #3

[T-dawg420]

The path taken from Tennyson st has always bothered me. Why go that way to the Milne trail? I’ve done this before but if you drop a pin at the concrete slab and do a google map search to Tallows beach car park it’s 1.7km and would take 21 mins to walk( the shortest trip is past the yak, onto Gilmore, out onto Lawson and down Tallows beach road). Theo’s phone signal leaves the slab at 11:21pm. He/phone signal eventually make it out onto the beach next to abandoned camp at 11:48, that’s 27 mins of travelling and still not at Tallows beach car park. If he went the suggested google maps way he/phone would be at the car park roughly 11:42pm.

Also as mentioned in the podcast if you google map from CM the path takes you to Milne track. It does this as well from the end of Tennyson however I’ve found that it only takes you the Milne track when you search for Tallows beach. I think that’s because Tallows beach gps location marker is a little south. If you search for CC or lighthouse it takes you Lawson/tallows beach Rd but if you specifically search for Tallows beach it takes you Milne track.

From Tennyson going to Milne track actually backtracks you a little, making it a longer trip than going the Lawson/tallow beach Rd route.

Can someone explain to me what the purpose of going the Milne track/fire trail is?

It a longer, much more hazardous journey to take, even for a local. What is the point to go this way?

One thing that sticks out to me straight away is the isolation and the darkness. Once you make it to Milne, your totally off the grid and away from any witnesses.

IMO you only take a longer, more hazardous trip somewhere if you wanna stay outta sight.

Surely a local would know that route isn’t the shortest way to CC. What’s the motivation for taking that route?

Google maps walking pace is calculated around 4.5km/h IIRC. That’s the speed Theo/his phone went up the hill past massinger, he walked from Tennyson to massinger at 6km/h and walked the sandy trail at 7.5km/h. If he travelled at those speeds going the Lawson/tallows beach Rd route he most likely would have made it there in less than 21 mins IMO.

So seriously, why take the Milne track route? Cos it wasn’t to save time

Also just to add, when I google maps from safari and not the app, you can see at least one car parked on the concrete slab. If you street view it you can see how easily you could get s vehicle on the slab. I wonder if there was a car/s parked there that night.

Also, I wonder if no.26 Tennyson heard or witnessed anything?

 

[SouthAussie]

Another little fact that may or may not mean something.

Theo was geographically about as far away from Wake Up - and potentially anyone who may have loosely known him there and would have returned there - as he could be that night in Byron Bay.



And, I believe, he would have been very aware of that - considering the amount of times he apparently checked the location of Wake Up.

Was he purposely avoiding being seen by anyone?

 

[Deleted member 249471]

Here’s a real interesting read on child gangs in Tweed Heads under the Tweed-Byron police:

The wild frontier

Particularly interesting is how fearless and ruthless the kids are.

And how police are also victims.

Yet they say they can’t do anything unless caught in the act.

But might turn a blind eye if you take care of it yourself.

And because of this, there’s a bit of a vigilante culture going on.

That ‘judge’ club found suddenly takes on a whole new meaning.

 

[mussopossum]

I have been doing a bit of a consolidation of data from MSM and police comments in relation to Theos phone pings and initial search locations from back early June.

What I find interesting is the openness of police reporting / comments and updates on the areas and why they were interested in those area to when the family obtained Theos data, the police seemed to stop commenting and stopped updating any information relation to phone pings and locations.

Once I can put all this together I will post it, I want to do a little more research on some of it first, but it is something that I and another were chatting about the other night.

 

[Rocket333]

On Paterson Street bitumen beside the watertower. “SA AN 666”

 

[mussopossum]

On Paterson Street bitumen beside the watertower. “SA AN 666”

Could it be SATAN?

Isn't that 666 and the star a sign of satan worship?

Where was that taken from ?

 

[Rocket333]

Could it be SATAN?

Isn't that 666 and the star a sign of satan worship?

Where was that taken from ?

I assume it’s meant to be “SATAN”. It’s from google earth on the road at the water tower on Paterson Street.


Google Earth Link


Google Earth
#googleearth

 

[mussopossum]

@Rocket333 and @sparks030405

Can you shoot me a PM please

 

[Rocket333]

@Rocket333 and @sparks030405

Can you shoot me a PM please

How do I do that?

 

[Rocket333]

@Rocket333 and @sparks030405

Can you shoot me a PM please

Not sure how to do PMs here?

Someone on the Facebook LFTH site mentioned it being a pagan symbol or something on the road outside the water tower, and I google earthed it and saw it.

 

[mussopossum]

How do I do that?

You must have start a conversation switched off on your PM, on your inbox

 

[mussopossum]

The Lighthouse: podcast raises Theo Hayez army

NoCookies | The Australian

 

[BusterXP]

Not sure how to do PMs here?

Someone on the Facebook LFTH site mentioned it being a pagan symbol or something on the road outside the water tower, and I google earthed it and saw it.

There's a Pentagram there which is a witchcraft symbol.
Pentagram - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Harpboon]

The path taken from Tennyson st has always bothered me. Why go that way to the Milne trail? I’ve done this before but if you drop a pin at the concrete slab and do a google map search to Tallows beach car park it’s 1.7km and would take 21 mins to walk( the shortest trip is past the yak, onto Gilmore, out onto Lawson and down Tallows beach road). Theo’s phone signal leaves the slab at 11:21pm. He/phone signal eventually make it out onto the beach next to abandoned camp at 11:48, that’s 27 mins of travelling and still not at Tallows beach car park. If he went the suggested google maps way he/phone would be at the car park roughly 11:42pm.

Also as mentioned in the podcast if you google map from CM the path takes you to Milne track. It does this as well from the end of Tennyson however I’ve found that it only takes you the Milne track when you search for Tallows beach. I think that’s because Tallows beach gps location marker is a little south. If you search for CC or lighthouse it takes you Lawson/tallows beach Rd but if you specifically search for Tallows beach it takes you Milne track.

From Tennyson going to Milne track actually backtracks you a little, making it a longer trip than going the Lawson/tallow beach Rd route.

Can someone explain to me what the purpose of going the Milne track/fire trail is?

It a longer, much more hazardous journey to take, even for a local. What is the point to go this way?

One thing that sticks out to me straight away is the isolation and the darkness. Once you make it to Milne, your totally off the grid and away from any witnesses.

IMO you only take a longer, more hazardous trip somewhere if you wanna stay outta sight.

Surely a local would know that route isn’t the shortest way to CC. What’s the motivation for taking that route?

Google maps walking pace is calculated around 4.5km/h IIRC. That’s the speed Theo/his phone went up the hill past massinger, he walked from Tennyson to massinger at 6km/h and walked the sandy trail at 7.5km/h. If he travelled at those speeds going the Lawson/tallows beach Rd route he most likely would have made it there in less than 21 mins IMO.

So seriously, why take the Milne track route? Cos it wasn’t to save time

Also just to add, when I google maps from safari and not the app, you can see at least one car parked on the concrete slab. If you street view it you can see how easily you could get s vehicle on the slab. I wonder if there was a car/s parked there that night.

Also, I wonder if no.26 Tennyson heard or witnessed anything?

The only thing I can think of is maybe that way because that’s where someone of the slab gang lived? The homeless guy?
I don’t know though, it just doesn’t make much sense to go that way if it’s the longer way to get to CC

26 Tennyson is interesting, I wonder if they could of seen something too?
Surely the police questioned them. I just street viewed the house and it looks like they have some sort of CB radio set up.

 

[BusterXP]

Could it be SATAN?

Isn't that 666 and the star a sign of satan worship?

Where was that taken from ?

The Pentagram can be the opposite depending on which way you view it.

 

[Rocket333]

The Pentagram can be the opposite depending on which way you view it.

The person who posted it on the LFTH Fbook page said, “...the judge was at clarkes beach and the graves im not sure maybe near that pagan symbol on the road round the water tower. check google earth,”

 

[sparks030405]

The Lighthouse: podcast raises Theo Hayez army

NoCookies | The Australian

If the Murdoch Press had any social conscience, which it doesn’t, it would not hide articles about Theo Hayez behind paywalls. I note with respect, that Fairfax Press provides open access to all their articles related to the current bushfires.

Just a reminder to those who rightly choose not to finance the dark-side, to view this article, which doesn’t actually say anything new and is just a filler for a paid newspaper service, search for the title via ‘Google News’ to read it for free.

 

[mussopossum]

If the Murdoch Press had any social conscience, which it doesn’t, it would not hide articles about Theo Hayez behind paywalls. I note with respect, that Fairfax Press provides open access to all their articles related to the current bushfires.

Just a reminder to those who rightly choose not to finance the dark-side, to view this article, which doesn’t actually say anything new and is just a filler for a paid newspaper service, search for the title via ‘Google News’ to read it for free.

Im also finding reading it from internet explorer comes for free most the time as well.

 

[sparks030405]

internet explorer...

LOL. You’re showing your age. Wasn’t that abandoned around 10 years ago?

 

[Rocket333]

Another little fact that may or may not mean something.

Theo was geographically about as far away from Wake Up - and potentially anyone who may have loosely known him there and would have returned there - as he could be that night in Byron Bay.

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And, I believe, he would have been very aware of that - considering the amount of times he apparently checked the location of Wake Up.

Was he purposely avoiding being seen by anyone?

No I don’t think he was. I think any others involved were though and he was lured further into their turf.