Australia - Toyah Cordingley, 24, body found on beach, 22 October 2018 #3

  • #981
It is interesting. Didn't a family member locate and untie the dog? Could that have maybe compromised the DNA?
Yes. Her mother found Indie, but she had to ask Toyah's father to help untie her. It must have been tightly attached. And the big dog could not get herself out of the knot to even sit down. Lead was probably full of others DNA
 
  • #982
Yes. Her mother found Indie, but she had to ask Toyah's father to help untie her. It must have been tightly attached. And the big dog could not get herself out of the knot to even sit down. Lead was probably full of others DNA
I think the fight was about Indie, and Singh angrily tying her to the tree was the act that triggered the physical violence.
 
  • #983
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Summary:

Toyah had Singh’s DNA under her fingernail at the time of her death.

DNA under a fingernail is not a place where DNA ends up casually. It’s most often the result of close, physical contact and usually due to a struggle.

The DNA evidence shows that male genetic material found under Toyah’s fingernail matched Singh almost perfectly.

Two separate tests were run and one showed 26 out of 27 Y-chromosome markers matching Singh, and the other showed all 27 matching.

Y-chromosome DNA is shared amongst paternal male relatives, so the DNA under Toyah’s fingernail can only belong to Singh or his father, brothers, or cousins.

Patel (the scientist) confirmed that the male DNA under Toyah’s fingernail is consistent with Singh’s genetic profile. It does not match Marco, or any other man tested.

Other partial tests also pointed to Singh.

DNA under the fingernail is pretty telling and the circumstances make Singh the most likely source.
 
  • #984

Prosecutors call last witnesses in trial of Rajwinder Singh, accused of murdering Toyah Cordingley​


The Crown finished calling witnesses on Monday afternoon after more than three weeks of evidence.

Mr Singh has elected not to call, or give evidence, in his defence.

Among the final witnesses to be called by prosecutors was Ms Cordingley's close friend Megan Pritchard, who told the court Indie would accompany Ms Cordingley when they went to swimming holes together.

"As much as she could, Toyah would let [Indie] run off lead because she had voice control over her?" Mr Singh's barrister, Greg McGuire KC, asked.

"Correct," Ms Pritchard replied.

Crown Prosecutor Nathan Crane and Mr McGuire are still to make closing addresses to the jury, which are expected to begin on Tuesday.

Justice Lincoln Crowley will then sum up the case ahead of deliberations.
 
  • #985
MEDIA

Summary:

Toyah had Singh’s DNA under her fingernail at the time of her death.

DNA under a fingernail is not a place where DNA ends up casually. It’s most often the result of close, physical contact and usually due to a struggle.

The DNA evidence shows that male genetic material found under Toyah’s fingernail matched Singh almost perfectly.

Two separate tests were run and one showed 26 out of 27 Y-chromosome markers matching Singh, and the other showed all 27 matching.

Y-chromosome DNA is shared amongst paternal male relatives, so the DNA under Toyah’s fingernail can only belong to Singh or his father, brothers, or cousins.

Patel (the scientist) confirmed that the male DNA under Toyah’s fingernail is consistent with Singh’s genetic profile. It does not match Marco, or any other man tested.

Other partial tests also pointed to Singh.

DNA under the fingernail is pretty telling and the circumstances make Singh the most likely source.
Sounds like 'beyond reasonably doubt' to me.
 
  • #986

Among the final witnesses to be called by prosecutors was Ms Cordingley's close friend Megan Pritchard, who told the court Indie would accompany Ms Cordingley when they went to swimming holes together.

"As much as she could, Toyah would let [Indie] run off lead because she had voice control over her?" Mr Singh's barrister, Greg McGuire KC, asked.

"Correct," Ms Pritchard replied
The defense is planting doubt. If Toyah didn’t tie Indie up tight, then someone else did and that person may not have been Singh. This is being used to argue that there’s enough uncertainty to prevent a conviction.
 
  • #987
His DNA under the fingernails is something I can't get past.
 
  • #988
Sounds like 'beyond reasonably doubt' to me.
I wish. One single unanswered question, such as who tied up Indie, could be enough though to plant doubt and prevent a conviction beyond reasonable doubt. I’m hoping that the cumulative weight of the evidence is too hard for the jury to ignore.
 
  • #989

ABC News Australia

Man accused of murdering Toyah Cordingley wanted to be 'needle in a haystack' in India, court hears​

 
  • #990

Toyah's Murder: The covert recording of Rajwinder Singh in a police cell | The Case Of...​


ABC News Australia

36.58 minute Audio

 
  • #991

ABC News Australia

Rajwinder Singh's defence begins closing arguments in trial over 2018 murder of Toyah Cordingley​

 
  • #992
Facebook attachment of a quote Toyah Cordingley posted on her page on 18/10/2018.

“I may seem like a nice person, but if you mess with my dogs, I will break out a level of crazy that will make your nightmare's seem a happy place.”

MSN
“Mr McGuire pointed to the absence of Mr Singh's DNA on Indie's lead and collar, or on the tree to which she was tied. He said Ms Cordingley could have ‘easily outrun the portly man you see sitting in the dock’.

From all accounts and evidence, Toyah wasn’t someone who would run if Indie was being restrained by a stranger and tied up too tightly to a tree. She’d stay with Indie and fight for her because leaving her dog would be totally out of character.

The absence of Singh’s DNA on the lead doesn’t rule out his contact with it. More dominant DNA could have masked his, or he may have had his hands covered with something at that point.
 

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Toyah's Murder: Closing arguments – everything you need to know | The Case Of...

ABC News Australia

 
  • #994

Jury deliberations begin in trial of Rajwinder Singh, accused of murdering Toyah Cordingley in 2018

A jury has begun its deliberations in the trial of Rajwinder Singh, accused of the murder of Far North Queensland woman Toyah Cordingley on a secluded beach seven years ago.

On Friday afternoon, Justice Lincoln Crowley discharged two reserve jurors, and the jury retired at 3:13pm.

The jury's verdict must be unanimous — majority verdicts do not apply in murder cases in Queensland.
 
  • #995
I'm assuming that the jurors keep court hours during deliberations.
 
  • #996
I'm assuming that the jurors keep court hours during deliberations.
Depends on the judge. I imagine the jury will be locked up over the weekend. Hopefully they will be able to deliberate over the weekend. Depends if the judge is local, or has been brought up from Brisbane.
 
  • #997
Depends on the judge. I imagine the jury will be locked up over the weekend. Hopefully they will be able to deliberate over the weekend. Depends if the judge is local, or has been brought up from Brisbane.
Channel 9 news just reported that the jury have been allowed to go home and will be back Monday 10am.
 
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  • #999
His DNA under the fingernails is something I can't get past.
I can--I mean I don't necessarily accept that it's his DNA on, let alone "under", Toyah's fingernail. Because the Y-chromosome material tested might have come from several different men. Apart from that, if the DNA on the fingernail is Singh's, perhaps Toyah might have got it by transfer from the stick. Perhaps she play-wrestled with her dog over the stick not even knowing that Singh had previously done something with it.

On one test, 26 of the 27 genetic markers on the fingernail sample matched those of Mr Singh's Y-chromosome, while on a second test, all 27 markers matched.
"If you assume they're from one individual, one male, they all correspond to Mr Singh's DNA profile," Ms Patel said.
. . .
Under cross-examination from defence barrister Kate Juhasz, Ms Patel said she could not say where on the fingernail the DNA sample was from.
Ms Patel said there were not "any signals on the [fingernail] DNA profile to alert me there was likely to be a mixture of men in the sample".
"If you assume those results originated from one male, then they couldn't have originated from Mr Heidenreich," she said.

 
  • #1,000
I can--I mean I don't necessarily accept that it's his DNA on, let alone "under", Toyah's fingernail. Because the Y-chromosome material tested might have come from several different men. Apart from that, if the DNA on the fingernail is Singh's, perhaps Toyah might have got it by transfer from the stick. Perhaps she play-wrestled with her dog over the stick not even knowing that Singh had previously done something with it.

On one test, 26 of the 27 genetic markers on the fingernail sample matched those of Mr Singh's Y-chromosome, while on a second test, all 27 markers matched.
"If you assume they're from one individual, one male, they all correspond to Mr Singh's DNA profile," Ms Patel said.
. . .
Under cross-examination from defence barrister Kate Juhasz, Ms Patel said she could not say where on the fingernail the DNA sample was from.
Ms Patel said there were not "any signals on the [fingernail] DNA profile to alert me there was likely to be a mixture of men in the sample".
"If you assume those results originated from one male, then they couldn't have originated from Mr Heidenreich," she said.

I get the point about transfer being possible, but the problem here is the expert was clear there were no signs of a mixed sample.

Saying the DNA ‘might have come from several men’ doesn’t line up with the actual profile of 26/27 and then 27/27 markers matching Singh as a very strong hit.

Y‑DNA can technically come from different men, but only if they’re in the same paternal line or if there’s a clear mixture in the sample (which there wasn’t). The stick/dog scenario is speculative without evidence that Singh handled it. And under cross‑examination, the expert confirmed it couldn’t have come from Marco.

Stronger DNA under nails usually comes from direct physical contact and object transfer tends to leave weaker, mixed traces. We have to weigh our thoughts up against the strength of the lab tested match and the expert testimony.
 

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