Australia - Toyah Cordingley, 24, body found on beach, 22 October 2018

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  • #361
Not that I know of. The news have reported the tall thin man as the BF (Friends rally around boyfriend of Toyah Cordingley, 24, murdered on Wangetti Beach | Daily Mail Online), if this is the case and she did break up with him three weeks earlier it gives me hope of at least people to investigate. IMO the beach was such a random location that the chances of it being a stranger seem very unlikely to me, someone knew her movements and knew she was going to be there. Given the news reports have described her death as very violent in nature (Dad found daughter’s dead body), that seems likes an angry/frenzied attack, IMO emotions were involved for the person to do that, indicating to me that it was not a stranger.

IMO the location doesn't necessarily point to it being someone she knows. That's a perfect spot for a stranger to lie and wait for a victim, any victim. No camera's, no cell service, minimal people around...
 
  • #362
IMO the location doesn't necessarily point to it being someone she knows. That's a perfect spot for a stranger to lie and wait for a victim, any victim. No camera's, no cell service, minimal people around...

So it could then be a local/individual very familiar with the area. If it was a random attack, why attack the woman with a big dog, would you not wait for someone with no potential complications?

Or if it was a regular walking route for her perhaps the perp has watched her a few times. I just do not believe it was a random on the day attack, I believe the person knew her or had been watching her movements.
 
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  • #363
It is only sixteen days since this dreadful crime was committed so I'm thinking it will be too early for any DNA results to be in the hands of investigators.
It is to be hoped the crime scene wasn't contaminated; especially the dogs leash/collar. There should also be other sources for DNA.
Hopefully, in the not to distant future, we will see this case break wide open.
 
  • #364
So it would then be a local/individual very familiar with the area. If it was a random attack, why attack the woman with a big dog, would you not wait for someone with no potential complications?

Maybe someone who has come across Toyah at that beach before and knew her dog was a friendly giant, saw no one else around?

I'm just thinking aloud here, I have absolutely no idea what I even think happened, but I do think there's heaps going on behind the scenes that we're not privy to. And I think the family has been told not to talk to media.
 
  • #365
Maybe someone who has come across Toyah at that beach before and knew her dog was a friendly giant, saw no one else around?

I'm just thinking aloud here, I have absolutely no idea what I even think happened, but I do think there's heaps going on behind the scenes that we're not privy to. And I think the family has been told not to talk to media.

Me too with the thoughts aloud. I do hope there is more going on behind the scenes it would be even more tragic otherwise.
 
  • #366
Hoping this case is solved soon ..
Wangetti Beach is not as isolated as some people might think - all beaches around Cairns are pretty quiet - and it sounds like a few people were on the beach - the chances of random perp being there at the same time seem ‘unlikely ‘ Given that most women are killed by someone they know ..
things that worry me are
- why / who tied the dog up
- was she murder at the beach ?

Does anyone have the time her body was found by her family ?
 
  • #367
Hoping this case is solved soon ..
Wangetti Beach is not as isolated as some people might think - all beaches around Cairns are pretty quiet - and it sounds like a few people were on the beach - the chances of random perp being there at the same time seem ‘unlikely ‘ Given that most women are killed by someone they know ..
things that worry me are
- why / who tied the dog up
- was she murder at the beach ?

Does anyone have the time her body was found by her family ?
I believe it would be evident to police if Toyah had been moved after she died.
 
  • #368
Hoping this case is solved soon ..
Wangetti Beach is not as isolated as some people might think - all beaches around Cairns are pretty quiet - and it sounds like a few people were on the beach - the chances of random perp being there at the same time seem ‘unlikely ‘ Given that most women are killed by someone they know ..
things that worry me are
- why / who tied the dog up
- was she murder at the beach ?

Does anyone have the time her body was found by her family ?

I have not found any exact information re: time her body was found, only that it was "early Monday morning" Dad found daughter’s dead body
 
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  • #369
Hoping this case is solved soon ..
Wangetti Beach is not as isolated as some people might think - all beaches around Cairns are pretty quiet - and it sounds like a few people were on the beach - the chances of random perp being there at the same time seem ‘unlikely ‘ Given that most women are killed by someone they know ..
things that worry me are
- why / who tied the dog up
- was she murder at the beach ?

Does anyone have the time her body was found by her family ?

Possibly the dog was tied up so no one would find it roaming and take it to a vet for a microchip scan, which would alert to the fact that Toyah was missing sooner. Where I live, if a dog is found the first thing people do is post to a fb lost pet page and/or take the doggo to a vet.

Although if the beach isn't as isolated as I'm thinking, it makes it even stranger that the dog's barking or behaviour didn't alert someone sooner, if in fact it was tied up all night?
 
  • #370
Perhaps the dog just didn't bark. We are making a big assumption that all animals will respond the same this may not be the case here. Or after initial barks, cries, perhaps the exhaustion set in mix that with no water and not being able to be seated the dog was probably very tired by the time help arrived or someone walked by. Also, if the dog was tied inland to a tree perhaps he was not very visible and I know that at the beach on a windy day I cannot hear what someone says very close to me if I am upwind, downwind may be a little easier as the noise will carry.

Possibly the dog was tied up so no one would find it roaming and take it to a vet for a microchip scan, which would alert to the fact that Toyah was missing sooner. Where I live, if a dog is found the first thing people do is post to a fb lost pet page and/or take the doggo to a vet.

Although if the beach isn't as isolated as I'm thinking, it makes it even stranger that the dog's barking or behaviour didn't alert someone sooner, if in fact it was tied up all night?
 
  • #371
surely whoever killed her mustnt be an animal lover to have tied the dog up in such a cruel way,
the dog seems to be key witness, with police focusing on it early on and testing it for dna etc
if only it could talk!

Hey bearbear, just thinking outside the box, the person who tied doggie up might have wanted to keep it safe from the road and it got tangled in the lead.
 
  • #372
surely whoever killed her mustnt be an animal lover to have tied the dog up in such a cruel way,
the dog seems to be key witness, with police focusing on it early on and testing it for dna etc
if only it could talk!

If the murderer knew the dog and took the dog, what would he/she do with the dog?
They'd have a lot of explaining to do if they had the dog.
 
  • #373
What would prompt Toyah to write this? Could she have been in fear recently and blamed for not being more careful?

In a Facebook post in June, Ms Cordingley shared a tweet about the dangers women face from violent men. It read: “I can only imagine the rage and fear women feel to see women die doing everyday mundane things like walking home. Stop blaming women. Make men the issue”.
Woman murdered walking dog on Queensland beach
 
  • #374
Totally agree. Australia sentences are an embarrassment. Just just need to see those Border Security shows to see how little Australia penalises people. It is a joke and embarrasses me as an Australian.

Yup, I totally agree with you Breaking
 
  • #375
I agree. But knowing that area, there are a few basic houses in the area. eg huts really, you know the places with dirt floors. I have known people who have lived there. I can not believe that the dog would not have made any noise at all. Someone, somewhere surely would have heard it. I know my dog would have howled and howled even if he was tied up tight and especially if he could have seen me hurt or dead.

Our stupid staffy would think someone is playing with mum and now mum is having a sleep & wouldn't give a rats except 'where's my dinner'.
 
  • #376
Yes, wasn't sure if I'd remembered reading if she worked there or not but it appears she did work at a shop...unsure if same place that she was at the next morning?

Toyah Cordingley murder: Last photos of her alive emerge

The pictures show Ms Cordingley handing out samples of camel dairy milk to customers at Barr St Markets, a wholefood store and pharmacy in Cairns, the day before her death.

It's kinda strange there is NOTHING on the store's FB page....nothing, no kind thoughts for Toyah's family, nothing.
 
  • #377
Is it known whether new boyfriend was at funeral?


Am I seeing body language toward BF?
There is someone hugging him but take a look at Toyah's co-workers? Green shirts including the woman in black with arms folded.
She is a co-worker as that is the uniform as well as the green shirts.
Hit me if I'm imagining things.

The murderer could be standing anywhere in that crowd.

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toyah cordingley funeral - Google Search:
 
  • #378
It's kinda strange there is NOTHING on the store's FB page....nothing, no kind thoughts for Toyah's family, nothing.

When you posted that, I thought maybe they aren't that active on social media. But they even post when it's a staff members birthday or if someone is leaving the job. A little strange hey.
 
  • #379
Hoping this case is solved soon ..
Wangetti Beach is not as isolated as some people might think - all beaches around Cairns are pretty quiet - and it sounds like a few people were on the beach - the chances of random perp being there at the same time seem ‘unlikely ‘ Given that most women are killed by someone they know ..
things that worry me are
- why / who tied the dog up
- was she murder at the beach ?

Does anyone have the time her body was found by her family ?

AND why would you travel 42 kms from Cairns to walk a dog?
Did I see an article saying her BF lived in Port Douglas?
Was she driving there to see him or was that a midway point for both to see/walk the dog?

Toyah Cordingley went out to walk her dog on Sunday afternoon before her body was found on Wangetti Beach, 42 kilometres north of Cairns, early on Monday.
Woman murdered walking dog on Queensland beach
 
  • #380
AND why would you travel 42 kms from Cairns to walk a dog?
Did I see an article saying her BF lived in Port Douglas?
Was she driving there to see him or was that a midway point for both to see/walk the dog?

Toyah Cordingley went out to walk her dog on Sunday afternoon before her body was found on Wangetti Beach, 42 kilometres north of Cairns, early on Monday.
Woman murdered walking dog on Queensland beach

Hard to tell, photographs are such a small snippet of time. Given most people will assume a BF/partner in the death of a woman, their body language could be an example of conditioning to feel that way toward him.
 
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