Australia Australia - Tynong North/Frankston Murders, 30 May 1980 - 9 October 1981, Melbourne

[petedavo.au]

Wow, so the two Frankston pick-up points are on the same road about one and a half kilometres apart. If you're driving towards Frankston along that Frankston-Dandenong Road, you come to Skye Road which turns around and takes you away from Frankston again, and intersects with McClelland Drive. And the bodies were found, one near McClelland Drive and the other near Skye Road.

That Frankston Dandenong Rd, is that the one where someone was taking pot shots at cars with a gun in 1983?

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[JLZ]

That Frankston Dandenong Rd, is that the one where someone was taking pot shots at cars with a gun in 1983?

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I don't remember that, but possibly. The road is about 17km long.

 

[petedavo.au]

I don't remember that, but possibly. The road is about 17km long.

If they ever caught the bugger, he owes me the cost of a radiator I replaced.

I vaguely remember Steve Liebmann or Brian Marshall on some TV show years later talking about it, and remembered the hole in my radiator, and overheating happening one night out that way. Apparently he shot someone.

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[petedavo.au]

If they ever caught the bugger, he owes me the cost of a radiator I replaced.

I vaguely remember Steve Liebmann or Brian Marshall on some TV show years later talking about it, and remembered the hole in my radiator, and overheating happening one night out that way. Apparently he shot someone.

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I'll have to search through this, as I wouldn't even know the name of the area as I ever drove that way once and it was night. But I wondered if the bloke taking pot shots at cars was the same bloke in this case.

Herald Sun Cold Case Database: Search Victoria’s unsolved homicide cases and select a profile to read more http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/special-features/cold-case#hs-cold-case

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[Bohemian]

I'll have to search through this, as I wouldn't even know the name of the area as I ever drove that way once and it was night. But I wondered if the bloke taking pot shots at cars was the same bloke in this case.

Herald Sun Cold Case Database: Search Victoria’s unsolved homicide cases and select a profile to read more http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/special-features/cold-case#hs-cold-case

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Which one PD? The link goes to the main cold case page.

 

[petedavo.au]

Which one PD? The link goes to the main cold case page.

Haven't found it yet.

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[jessicalouise]

I find this case fascinating. I can't remember how i first heard about it because it was well before my time but i did a bit of reading, knew there was a suspicious now older fellow who'd been offering women lifts, then thought nothing of the case until it popped up on Meshel Laurie and Emily Webb's podcast Australian True Crime. I then went and listened to the Casefile podcast and then watched the Sensing Murder episode which is well worth a watch regardless of your opinion of psychics.

Even before watching the Sensing Murder episode i had a gut feeling there may have been two killers. Simply because of how the younger woman's and young girl's bodies were placed and treated (unclothed, sexually assaulted) compared to the older women. It wouldnt be out of the realm of possibility that two killers just happened to find the same area a desirable place to dump bodies.

I just don't really understand why the police are so certain the killings are all connected to the one person. It seems like a stretch.

 

[petedavo.au]

I'll have to search through this, as I wouldn't even know the name of the area as I ever drove that way once and it was night. But I wondered if the bloke taking pot shots at cars was the same bloke in this case.

Herald Sun Cold Case Database: Search Victoria’s unsolved homicide cases and select a profile to read more http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/special-features/cold-case#hs-cold-case

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Finally remembered the shooting at cars was near Caribbean Gardens & Market, Scoresby on the main road between Dandenong and Frankston at an S bend in the road, if I remember correctly. Still can't find anything though. One of the passengers in my car that night, before I found the hole in the radiator, thought he saw a flash. Vaguely remember a story about a lass who pulled over after having her windscreen smashed and she and repairer or RACV man reckoned they were shot at. This would be 1983 I think, in the same area I think, but can't find the original story online.

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[JLZ]

Finally remembered the shooting at cars was near Caribbean Gardens & Market, Scoresby on the main road between Dandenong and Frankston at an S bend in the road, if I remember correctly. Still can't find anything though. One of the passengers in my car that night, before I found the hole in the radiator, thought he saw a flash. Vaguely remember a story about a lass who pulled over after having her windscreen smashed and she and repairer or RACV man reckoned they were shot at. This would be 1983 I think, in the same area I think, but can't find the original story online.

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Scoresby is about 10km beyond Dandenong, not between Frankston and Dandenong.

I remember being driven past Caribbean Gardens, it would have been in the 70s, maybe early 80s. I remember the gate, with the name above. I never knew what it was. Beyond the gate and round about, it seemed to be just paddock, brown grass. From the web, it seems there's more there now.

Not a bad place to take pot shots at cars. But it could have been anyone. There were probably a couple of million people living in Melbourne back then.

 

[alexandermanes]

So, as someone who's very interested in this, was there every a victimology released? Was there every any information as to a profile of a possible unsub? Was there a cause of death released for the victims?

 

[angelwasari]

So, as someone who's very interested in this, was there every a victimology released? Was there every any information as to a profile of a possible unsub? Was there a cause of death released for the victims?

They apparently couldn't determine a cause of death, and there's no official victimology that I'm aware of. IMO, the person responsible probably was somebody well-known and well-respected amongst the community, since it's been theorized that the victims knew and trusted him due to the complete lack of any eyewitnesses noticing a struggle or anything like that. I say known in the community because he'd have to be a community figure in order for both elderly women and teenage girls alike to accept rides from him.

 

[Marg from Oz]

Maybe in some type of uniform.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

https://www.theage.com.au/national/...urne-murder-mystery-dies-20200830-p55qqh.html

One of the main suspects in the deaths of six women dumped in scrub near Tynong North and Frankston in the early 1980s has died.

Harold Janman, 88, who was interviewed by police about the murders in 1981 and repeatedly proclaimed his innocence, died on Wednesday.

 

[Marg from Oz]

Wonder how many suspects they have.
He certainly looked like their no.1 suspect. Perhaps corona got him.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Renewed murder focus | Pakenham Gazette

07/07/2021

Victoria Police has a renewed focus on the unsolved Tynong North murders in a bid to try close the 40-year-old cold case.

Details on the abduction and murder of six women, whose bodies were found in the Tynong North and Frankston areas in the early 1980s and commonly referred to as the ‘Tynong North murders’, have been highlighted on Victoria Police’s Cold Case Hub website.

The initiative has been applauded by friends and family of the victims.