Australia - Warriena Wright, 26, dies in balcony fall, Surfers Paradise, Aug 2014 #2

[Suthrnqt]

Oh Possum, this :grouphug: is for you. :rose:

 

[Whatson]

Respect to you possum and your courage to continue on through this sometimes overwhelmingly cruel life.

 

[MsAnais]

HUGE love to you beautiful Possum:heartbeat:

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[possumheart]

Those hours between two and five in the morning contain all kinds of crazy. I wasn't trying to make anything about me. I just know there is a huge difference between what you think you might do in a situation, and the reality of it. In the UK, the Samaritans have volunteers who have a presence in trouble spots in those particularly dark hours.:grouphug:

 

[marlywings]

Ok just clearing up a few things here. The rules are, generally, that we are a victim friendly forum BUT we try to look at all sides of the case. We base our sleuthing/discussions on the facts as they are released and theory or speculation based on the facts as each individual member interprets those facts,....not everybody interprets the facts the same way.

All views are welcome if they are expressed in a reasonable manner. It's to be expected that at one time or another we will find ourselves strongly disagreeing with the opinions of others and that's fine, but if you're irritated with any one particular member and reading their posts makes you anxious, or whatever, that's why we have an "ignore" feature.

Please do not attack other members, you don't get to tell others how or what to post. We're here to discuss the case, not each other. If a post offends you, alert it.

 

[they'll get you]

How often do people still leave valuable portable electronic devices visibly attached to their dashboards these days? That's just an unintentional invitation for somebody to break into a car to obtain highly resaleable stolen goods! (Do i sound like a victim blamer now?) Even if it's an old old tablet worth next to nothing, paying for a new windscreen is expensive.

Maybe GT is the kind of stupid that would leave something in such a place.
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(I'm still thinking GT uses a second phone for drug dealing even if everyone else disagrees.)

I don't recall me saying 'visibly attached' but possibly stored in the glove box, console or under the bloody seat!
A victim blamer?
History shows he used a tablet in 2004 as a dash cam....maybe he's upgraded....again I don't care if or where he stored it.


A charger/holder strategically placed on to record to Video his unit.
Old phones are two a penny.

I've recorded a conversation before, my boss was saying snide sexual references so I popped my phone in my pocket to later review the conversation (for myself only) & I was not imagining it.

 

[Tangled_Web]

I recently took a look at TO's FB page and specifically the post that has been reported in the media today. My interpretation is that it has degenerated even further with heated and rather bizarre personal arguments among individuals in his friends network.

 

[marlywings]

Hello to all. Everyone has posted some very interesting thoughts. I realize mine may not be too popular, but felt I had to add it. I am not victim blaming, but speaking of all (or most) of the girls that go home with Gable, or any other young man like him. Really, if you leave a bar at last call with a male, and go to his house, are these young ladies so naïve, or what do they expect is going to happen. I am not saying it is right, but the young man is thinking you are into having sex. Really, it is late at night, they both most likely have been at least drinking and you go to with a man to his apartment. It has been a long time since my bar days, but even then, we pretty much all knew, if you did this, the man was wanting sex. What really else are you going to do at 2:00 or 3:00 in the morning? Talk?? you can talk the next day, right. And, Warriena had been with him most of the evening, drinking, talking, laughing? What happened next. If it is true that he had all of these other girls to his apartment, why did he not assault any of them? No one else died in his presence that we are aware of. I don't know what happened, but I have some doubts here about what was going on. I cannot condemn this young man until we know more actual facts. He appears to be a loose cannon, but he is certainly not the only man his age that acts this way, and while it is so very unfortunate that this young woman died, I cannot believe the vile, horrible human being that everyone wants to make him out to be. So many young man are wild, full of themselves, do outrageous things, yet women are not dying around most of them. There must be more to this story than what we are aware of. I know I am not going to be popular with my thoughts, but I believe we must give him a chance to tell his story before we condemn him. Thanks, Katt

Hi katsrfun ....this is my personal opinion. You asked why did he not assault any of the other girls he'd taken to his apartment. I think the answer to that could be quite simple....as with other murder cases, there is always a first time. And as we all know, some go on to commit multiple assaults and/or multiple murders.

Perhaps GT had been spiralling towards committing murder. Was Warriena the first woman he's assaulted or has there been others he's assaulted in the past and they've not reported it to police out of fear?? Considering police are still requesting anyone who has had contact with him to come forward, it wouldn't surprise me if we end up hearing about other assault charges.

Why did Warriena choose the balcony to escape. Police state he was assaulting her....was he about to attack her or had attacked her with a knife or even his fists?? This leads me to think he'd locked the exit door and the balcony was her only means of escape?? I can easily see the human response of fight or flight playing out and Warriena chose flight.

Has he grasped or comprehended the seriousness of what he's done I wonder,considering it was mentioned by his lawyer he's autistic.

It is, as you've mentioned, difficult to know without all the facts and questions abound. Whether we get to hear what actually happened remains to be seen and at this stage we can really only speculate.

What we can be 100% sure of though is, considering he's been charged with murder, police will have evidence to show this. And because the arrest took place relatively quickly, I'm thinking police have a LOT of evidence which shows he murdered poor Warriena.

 

[Adrianna]

You asked why did he not assault any of the other girls he'd taken to his apartment. I think the answer to that could be quite simple....as with other murder cases, there is always a first time. And as we all know, some go on to commit multiple assaults and/or multiple murders.

I had a thought on this also, that maybe he has assaulted other woman, they have felt fear and shame and havent reported it.

 

[SouthAussie]

Attention seeking bottom feeders .. not worth the time of day. I hope MSM does not feed their egos any more. (I hate to even post the link, but TOS require that I back up my comment.)

https://au.news.yahoo.com/qld/a/24740886/mates-stand-by-murder-accused-tostee/

 

[SouthAussie]

I had a thought on this also, that maybe he has assaulted other woman, they have felt fear and shame and havent reported it.

I feel that picking up a woman and tossing her over your shoulder, and picking up a woman and carrying her in from the balcony (as has been reported in previous posts/links) is bordering on assault. Remember, you are not supposed to 'man-handle' or touch someone without their consent, and these girls apparently did not consent, and one even reportedly ran in fear and deleted him from her SM contacts.

 

[SouthAussie]

Why did Warriena choose the balcony to escape. Police state he was assaulting her....was he about to attack her or had attacked her with a knife or even his fists?? This leads me to think he'd locked the exit door and the balcony was her only means of escape?? I can easily see the human response of fight or flight playing out and Warriena chose flight.

RSBM
BBM

... and/or sexually assaulted her ...

 

[elwyn5150]

I don't recall me saying 'visibly attached' but possibly stored in the glove box, console or under the bloody seat!

That's possible. I guess I assumed that he'd be one of those lazy people who doesn't it it away. However, if he's going to bother to attach something each time he drives, why not use his main phone which would probably be superior?

A charger/holder strategically placed on to record to Video his unit.
Old phones are two a penny.

Not quite but it's something that can worth stealing.

 

[elwyn5150]

Attention seeking bottom feeders .. not worth the time of day. I hope MSM does not feed their egos any more. (I hate to even post the link, but TOS require that I back up my comment.)

https://au.news.yahoo.com/qld/a/24740886/mates-stand-by-murder-accused-tostee/

Tostee needs better mates.

This is an interesting article that has some relevance but is not specific to this case: http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/201...r-of-the-peer-group-in-preventing-campus-rape

• "One of the things that matters most to boys and emerging adult men is the opinion of other men," says John Foubert, a researcher at Oklahoma State University who studies rape prevention among young men.
• "Most of these men have an image or a myth about rape, that it's some guy in a ski mask wielding a knife," says Lisak. "They don't wear ski masks, they don't wield knives, so they don't see themselves as rapists."
• "This idea that getting somebody intoxicated, plastered, so that you can have sex with them is an idea we just simply are going to have to confront and erode," he says. "Just like we have eroded the idea that it's fine to get drunk and get in your car."

 

[Ausgirl]

I feel that picking up a woman and tossing her over your shoulder, and picking up a woman and carrying her in from the balcony (as has been reported in previous posts/links) is bordering on assault. Remember, you are not supposed to 'man-handle' or touch someone without their consent, and these girls apparently did not consent, and one even reportedly ran in fear and deleted him from her SM contacts.

And don't forget the poor girl whose texts he posted up, whom he tried to 'get in the mood' by groping her against her will, and when that didn't work he grabbed her hand and placed it on his crotch. Then when she left in disgust, he sent her rapid fire texts trying to engage her in a conversation with the sole intent of humiliating her and thus 'saving face'. With the additional humiliation of it all, of course, immediately being posted as a giant shaming fest on his beloved forum (though it backfired on him big time, hooray..)

Sexual assault does not have to involve penetration. That's a fact.

Never mind the harassment of women in those clubs as described by multiple, highly chagrined club owners who witnessed this behaviour on many occasions.

I find it difficult to fathom how his 'supporters' can simply ignore - or worse, find nothing amiss with - this obvious trend toward unhealthy sexual aggression.

 

[humije]

Last night I read all 54 pages of the beetle thread. http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=120669961

It was late 2009/early 2010. GT seems like a different person. Would appear he was living outside of Surfers, maybe at his parents.

It was some time in 2010 that he ran into an old friend at a restaurant. http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/rise-and-fall-of-flawed-hermit-gable-tostee-caught-in-fatal-web-of-sex-hookups/story-fnihsrk2-1227026138739 and soon after commenced the life of a Gold Coast Playboy. He must have moved into Surfers after this and started hitting the club scene several nights a week. all leading up to the tragic night of 7 August 2014.

Sliding doors. Does my head in.

 

[SouthAussie]

And don't forget the poor girl whose texts he posted up, whom he tried to 'get in the mood' by groping her against her will, and when that didn't work he grabbed her hand and placed it on his crotch. Then when she left in disgust, he sent her rapid fire texts trying to engage her in a conversation with the sole intent of humiliating her and thus 'saving face'. With the additional humiliation of it all, of course, immediately being posted as a giant shaming fest on his beloved forum (though it backfired on him big time, hooray..)

Sexual assault does not have to involve penetration. That's a fact.

Never mind the harassment of women in those clubs as described by multiple, highly chagrined club owners who witnessed this behaviour on many occasions.

I find it difficult to fathom how his 'supporters' can simply ignore - or worse, find nothing amiss with - this obvious trend toward unhealthy sexual aggression.

BBM

Peas in a pod

 

[Whatson]

I find it difficult to fathom how his 'supporters' can simply ignore - or worse, find nothing amiss with - this obvious trend toward unhealthy sexual aggression.

Nothing more than a "5 minutes of fame" publicity stunt... painfully obvious. It WILL backfire.

 

[Amee]

Updated: 23:34 AEST, 18 August

The post was flooded with hundreds of comments - and some people posted conversations they had with Tostee declaring they believed him to be innocent.

Others discussed the media's involvement in the case, the evidence which had come forward - and defended his innocence.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ony-murder-Warriena-Wright.html#ixzz3Andy9rrv

Lots of free publicity for the mates new business venture....
Yep GT these are your so called mates!!

 

[elwyn5150]

Updated: 23:34 AEST, 18 August

The post was flooded with hundreds of comments - and some people posted conversations they had with Tostee declaring they believed him to be innocent.

Others discussed the media's involvement in the case, the evidence which had come forward - and defended his innocence.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ony-murder-Warriena-Wright.html#ixzz3Andy9rrv

Lots of free publicity for the mates new business venture....
Yep GT these are your so called mates!!

Is his mate's business venture merely selling gym clothing for women? Lots of barely clad models in his photos.

It's not a particularly articulate statement from his "mate".