Australia - Warriena Wright, 26, dies in balcony fall, Surfers Paradise, Aug 2014 #3

[PrimeSuspect]

I wonder if there was anything out on the balcony that she could have used to smash her way back in. If there was, maybe GT threw her off to make sure she didn't break a window to get back in.

If she was merely a guest who had overstayed her welcome, like he is stating in that recording, it would be simplest and safest for him to either call the police or shove her out the front door. If shoving her out the front door, he can gather her belongings then throw those out the door or off the balcony (not very gentlemanly but less illegal than manslaughter/murder).

not trying to make light of the situation, but reading your post made me think of the lines to Hotel California. GT would rather her die than leave. He's one twisted guy.

Last thing I remember, I was
Running for the door
I had to find the passage back
To the place I was before
"Relax, " said the night man,
"We are programmed to receive.
You can check-out any time you like,
But you can never leave! "

 

[possumheart]

Courier Mail

Tostee’s Facebook account was reactivated yesterday despite him being held in custody over the alleged highrise murder of young Kiwi tourist Warriena Wright last month and police concerns about his prolific use of social media.

Police this week opposed his bail application because of his “blatant disregard for human life and propensity for violence” and fears he will “recommence using social media”.

Police allege he continued to use Tinder after Ms Wright’s death and has had contact with more than 250 women since March.

On Facebook yesterday, Tostee thanked his supporters.

“I have been in custody for almost a month now for a crime I did not commit and have lost contact with almost everyone,” the post said.

“I maintain my absolute innocence and hope this nightmare will be over soon. If you wish to write to me I can be reached through mail at: LMB 1300 Sumner Park, Queensland 4074. Thanks again for your support and thoughts.”

He is believed to have been moved into protective custody after being bashed by a fellow inmate last week.

A Justice Department spokeswoman said prisoners did not have internet access but Corrective Services had no control over friends or relatives accessing inmates’ social media accounts.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/accused-balcony-killer-gable-tostee-takes-to-facebook-to-protest-innocence/story-fnihsrf2-1227057121074

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Please don't delete! They're good posts. And let's face it, there's a chance Warriena *did* accidentally fall over that balcony, or deliberately attempt to climb it.

But ONLY because Gable Tostee put her out there, after encouraging her drink moonshine though she was already drunk, then depriving her of liberty, choking, terrorising and verbally abusing and threatening her. However it went, HE is the reason she is dead.

eta: though I still think he dangled her off the edge and then closed the door. I really do.

I believe so too. He wanted to teach her a lesson. jmo

 

[possumheart]

Gold Coast Bulletin

ACCUSED killer Gable Tostee is back on social media — this time from behind bars.

A message has been posted on the Gold Coast playboy’s Facebook account protesting his innocence and asking friends to write to him in jail.

The plea comes amid reports Tostee has been bashed by other inmates for a second time.

Potts Lawyers did not return calls to the Bulletin yesterday.

http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/news/crime-court/gold-coast-playboy-and-accused-killer-gable-tostee-is-back-on-facebook-amid-reports-of-inmate-beatings/story-fnje8bkv-1227056902839

 

[possumheart]

I don't think the other inmates are warming to His Brahness ...

 

[SouthAussie]

Gold Coast Bulletin

ACCUSED killer Gable Tostee is back on social media — this time from behind bars.

A message has been posted on the Gold Coast playboy’s Facebook account protesting his innocence and asking friends to write to him in jail.

The plea comes amid reports Tostee has been bashed by other inmates for a second time.

Potts Lawyers did not return calls to the Bulletin yesterday.

http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/news/crime-court/gold-coast-playboy-and-accused-killer-gable-tostee-is-back-on-facebook-amid-reports-of-inmate-beatings/story-fnje8bkv-1227056902839

Isn't he in protective custody? So now the pedos and other protected inmates are bashing him too?!

 

[Brightbird]

Definitely post of the day, Brightbird! :hilarious:

:blushing: Aw nah, my post was a silly thing that popped in my head while making coffee at work. There's lots of great, well thought out, posts here seeking truth for Warriena, and they deserve way more credit than my frivolous one

 

[Adrianna]

Well, Tostee's accessed his FB via iPhone and has posted - proclaiming his innocence!!

Yup - he's learnt nothing about keeping silent.

Lawyer's dream :facepalm:

https://www.facebook.com/gabletee?fref=ts&ref=br_tf

I swear that facebook account was closed down, I guess people can open a facebook account up again. Think its very foolish for them to be posting anything on any facebook account. Its still a "me, myself and I post"

 

[Makara]

Kara -- I just have to wonder how anyone who terrorises a date, shoves her onto a balcony whereon she vanishes over the edge utterly, then both sees and hears police and ambulance arrive at the scene 14 floors down could NOT be aware that his date is in fact, dead.

His insta-call to the lawyer and near-immediate fleeing the scene seem to support that his 'imagined' thing is total BS, and is his whining that he doesn't know if she's dead or not. Why not ask a policeman at the scene? There was plenty about. A: GUILT

eta: plus his paranoia re police and where his dad should park. do innocent people often direct the getaway driver to park where police won't find them? I wonder.

I am not fooled by his head games. Not a bit.

Tostee's actions after Warriena's fall would be classed as both mens Rea and actus reus.

Mens Rea: An element of criminal responsibility, a guilty mind; a guilty or wrongful purpose; a criminal intent. Guilty knowledge and wilfulness.

A fundamental principle of Criminal Law is that a crime consists of both a mental and a physical element. Mens rea, a person's awareness of the fact that his or her conduct is criminal, is the mental element, and actus reus, the act itself, is the physical element.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/mens+rea

Hi sleuthers. I've been having a break after the Baden-Clay case but felt I had to comment on this one. Tostee is a nasty piece of work and his mental mind games have finally brought him undone but I feel that he will be charged with manslaughter and not murder. Either way, he's going to jail for a long time. Having said that, I really do hope that he receives the necessary and long overdue treatment, care, assistance or whatever it takes to set him on the road to rehabilitate into a normal human being. One can only hope.

ETA: I really do think that either GT's brother, a family member or one of his mates are behind the latest Facebook posts. Whoever they are, they're not doing GT any favours.

 

[Makara]

I know what you are saying. If she were spinning out chemically and her perception started whirling in circles unable to work out which was the way in ... Awful. Doesn't explain dangling legs and how she got over the ledge, which would involve putting one leg over, then the other - or being lifted over. And she wasn't very tall.

And three screams.

Now I feel like deleting :/

I don't believe that Tostee just dragged Warriena out onto the balcony, left her there and closed the door. IMO he lifted her up onto the rail or ledge and then closed the door. There were numerous screams of "no, no, no" from Warriena and almost immediately the sound of her fading scream as she fell.

Seriously, if Warriena was dragged out onto the balcony by Tostee and he closed the door immediately, the ensuing scream heard seconds later indicates that she was already in a prone position to fall. It doesn't fit with her having enough time to even think about what she's going to do next. She would have been disoriented by alcohol and whatever else may have been in her system, along with the WTF is going on factor. Her immediate reaction would have been to either scream for help, or scream abuse at Tostee and bash on the door to be let back in. That didn't happen. She went over the balcony within seconds of being dragged, or carried out onto the balcony, according to the transcript of the recording published in MSM.

 

[bajas]

I don't believe that Tostee just dragged Warriena out onto the balcony, left her there and closed the door. IMO he lifted her up onto the rail or ledge and then closed the door. There were numerous screams of "no, no, no" from Warriena and almost immediately the sound of her fading scream as she fell.

Seriously, if Warriena was dragged out onto the balcony by Tostee and he closed the door immediately, the ensuing scream heard seconds later indicates that she was already in a prone position to fall. It doesn't fit with her having enough time to even think about what she's going to do next. She would have been disoriented by alcohol and whatever else may have been in her system, along with the WTF is going on factor. Her immediate reaction would have been to either scream for help, or scream abuse at Tostee and bash on the door to be let back in. That didn't happened. She went over the balcony within seconds of being dragged, or carried out onto the balcony.

I agree with you totally, Makara, this makes perfect sense. Also, listening to extracts of the transcripts, he mentions the balcony several times (you're lucky I haven't thrown you over my balcony, don't fall over the balcony, etc) which to me is an indication of what was on his mind that evening; basically terrorising her by dangling her over the balcony and leaving her locked out there. He seemed to be treating her like a total victim and abusing her on all levels, sexually, physically and mentally; she was just there for his sick pleasure. I'm not sure that he meant for her to fall to her death, but once it happened, it is obviously from his comments and actions that he is totally detached and devoid of feelings towards others and is only concerned for himself. Seems like he gets that from his father, judging from his father's recorded comments and questions that night. The police are right to say he has no regard for human life; an understatement, actually!

 

[Ausgirl]

I don't believe that Tostee just dragged Warriena out onto the balcony, left her there and closed the door. IMO he lifted her up onto the rail or ledge and then closed the door. There were numerous screams of "no, no, no" from Warriena and almost immediately the sound of her fading scream as she fell.

Seriously, if Warriena was dragged out onto the balcony by Tostee and he closed the door immediately, the ensuing scream heard seconds later indicates that she was already in a prone position to fall. It doesn't fit with her having enough time to even think about what she's going to do next. She would have been disoriented by alcohol and whatever else may have been in her system, along with the WTF is going on factor. Her immediate reaction would have been to either scream for help, or scream abuse at Tostee and bash on the door to be let back in. That didn't happen. She went over the balcony within seconds of being dragged, or carried out onto the balcony, according to the transcript of the recording published in MSM.

Hi Makara, nice to see you.

What gives me the sickest feeling here is wondering if all those many mentions of going over the balcony were engineered toward the moment when he dragged her out there..... and it would be in her mind, after all those comments. "off the balcony" said just a few mins before...So I am thinking her abject terror "No, no no" might have begun when she realised where he was dragging her to.. and why.

I really do not think all those comments "don't jump", "lucky I haven't chucked you off", "I'd jump..That's it, boom" were simply incidental.

They'd already had sex, and though Tostee spoke of going out for drinks to a club, he did nothing further to encourage it, instead he plied Warriena with his nasty moonshine and played with her head ( as per his history with other women) for the purpose of humiliating her.

I FULLY believe that sex on the balcony has grown dull for him, it wasn't a thrill anymore and his fantasies had taken a dark turn some time before. I think this was the culmination of it. Perhaps her death was not part of it, but her utter terror in that moment certainly was.

I also think he'll get manslaughter. Sadly. I hope he is sentenced for the maximum for it, though.

Does he have to be *charged* with manslaughter, or how does that work, if the jury thinks it's not murder but he is responsible?

I think it's murder. I think he fervently hoped she *would* go over. He'd been building it up in his head -and hers - for several hours..

It's to his vast benefit that I'm way down here in Vic, no chance of being on that jury.

 

[Whatson]

Keep searching sleuthers. The truth is out there. Good work on the dumbell theories too!!

[video=youtube;ZbaW0HZ_Qy8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbaW0HZ_Qy8[/video]

 

[possumheart]

:cloud9: So great to hear from Makara!

 

[they'll get you]

:cloud9: So great to hear from Makara!

Yes, her avatar took my breath away. 'Twas like seeing a loved family member.

 

[Amee]

'Drink driving, abusing the public and assaulting police': How Gable Tostee was known to police before Warriena Wright fell to her death from his balcony


Two outstanding charges against Mr Tostee from January 27 relate to an alleged incident which took place after police were flagged down by a tuk-tuk driver who claimed he had run from the vehicle without paying his fare, according to the court documents.

Prosecutors claim, in the court documents, Mr Tostee was standing in a nearby Surfers Paradise convenience store on Ferny Avenue, buying chocolate and 'using obscene language' when Constable Leigh Hurley approached him and was told twice to 'f*** off'.

The court documents state Constable Hurley observed Mr Tostee was 'causing alarm to members of the public attempting to purchase items from the store and that he was interfering with 'peaceable business'.

When the officer arrested Mr Tostee, the defendant allegedly said to him, according to court documents: 'What are you going to do small man, f*** off c***'.

Prosecutors allege, in the court documents, after being placed in the rear of a police vehicle, Mr Tostee then allegedly put his foot in the door to prevent it being closed, said 'f*** off' again, 'violently kicked out at' Sergeant Stephen Wright, who sprayed Tostee with capsicum spray which 'had no effect'.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ght-court-documents-reveal.html#ixzz3D8yYBnFQ

 

[Amee]

The court documents filed during Mr Tostee's bail application on Monday say he was charged on July 27 with driving under the influence of liquor and breaching bail.

He had also breached bail conditions he had been placed on in January following the alleged incident on Ferny Avenue, according to the court documents


The court documents allege that at 3am on July 27, Mr Tostee was detected 'travelling at high speed' in a silver Ford Falcon on the highway across the NSW border.

The court documents say NSW Police attempted to intercept the vehicle by throwing tyre spikes across the road, but the vehicle continued over the Queensland border until it came to a stop.

Queensland Police breathalysed Mr Tostee, who allegedly had a blood alcohol concentration of 0.203 - nearly five times more than the legal limit, it is alleged in court documents.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ght-court-documents-reveal.html#ixzz3D8zVcojU


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ght-court-documents-reveal.html#ixzz3D8zGiUG8

 

[Amee]

makes sense as to why he knew his Lawyers phone number .:gaah:

 

[Amee]

Accused murderer Gable Tostee has declared his innocence from behind bars, posting a message on Facebook from custody, where he is being held over the balcony death of New Zealander Warriena Wright.

Tostee, who has been in police custody for the past month, thanked his friends and family on social media for their support.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...support-Facebook-post-jail.html#ixzz3D924itvr

 

[SouthAussie]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ght-court-documents-reveal.html#ixzz3D8yYBnFQ

RSBM

Thanks for that link, Amee. A couple of lovely pics of Warriena with her family in there. Won't post them here, for her family's privacy.