Australia - Warriena Wright, 26, dies in balcony fall, Surfers Paradise, Aug 2014 #4

[Kara-curious]

I find the persistent description of 'metallic object' weird - especially by Tostee. Makes sense for reporting the unknown, but when referring to a known item in your own house, wouldn't you just call a spade a spade?

Example:

"I was struck by an unknown metallic object when mugged walking home".
-v-
"Stop hitting your brother with that... metallic object". :thinking: Huh?

What is it about this 'metallic object' that might perhaps change people's perceptions if they knew what it was exactly. Would it undermine level of threat he supposedly felt? A metallic object could be a ruler for crying out loud - fear of being mocked by the brahs or the threat of it not presenting as too greater threat in eyes of average Joe? Was it an illegal item? All will be revealed I guess, but something is off.

Yes! Agree, well said. I'm still not sure Tostee ever said it, though, or if media reported it for other reasons (audio transcription). But IF Tostee said it, it's odd... it's another means of minimisation/avoidance/distraction IMO. To focus away from the object to the person allegedly weilding it.

 

[Ausgirl]

I say this while gesticulating toward tarjessi's quote in my sig, I gotta wonder how much of a coincidence is it, that:

-- this mystery metallic object (which I for various good reasons believe was not heavy) is never named by Tostee
-- moments after Warriena dies, Tostee's top priorities include fiddling around with something metallic that unscrews, which I for various reasons suspect *was* heavy

The ME said:

"It is likely that the 'pattern' injury on Mr Tostee's right leg was due to an object which moved across the skin towards his right...the shape of this injury may be reflective of the shape of the causation object or part there of."

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...en-caused-by-fingernails-20140908-10e13a.html

It'll be interesting to see what object present in his apartment the police might have found that matches this pattern. And whether that object also fits the sounds made later, by that *other* metal item, which Tostee was so concerned with after his date plummeted to her death.

 

[sosocurious]

Yes! Agree, well said. I'm still not sure Tostee ever said it, though, or if media reported it for other reasons (audio transcription). But IF Tostee said it, it's odd... it's another means of minimisation/avoidance/distraction IMO. To focus away from the object to the person allegedly weilding it.

Was something actually dropped by R'rie?
Could Tostee have actually dropped something on queue?
Knocked something off a surface (coffee table maybe?)

How long can someone keep a grip of something when fighting so hard for breath?

 

[sosocurious]

Tostee - "You think you can hit me and I was going to fall down just like in the movies."

The transcript only giving snippets of the conversation.

I wonder if the recording will or will not confirm that he said you hit me with that

Because hit me turned to trying to kill me rather quickly in the transcript .imo
http://mobile.news.com.au/national/...leged-recordings/story-e6frfkp9-1227053364751

 

[emirates1957]

I find the persistent description of 'metallic object' weird - especially by Tostee. Makes sense for reporting the unknown, but when referring to a known item in your own house, wouldn't you just call a spade a spade?

Example:

"I was struck by an unknown metallic object when mugged walking home".
-v-
"Stop hitting your brother with that... metallic object". :thinking: Huh?

What is it about this 'metallic object' that might perhaps change people's perceptions if they knew what it was exactly. Would it undermine level of threat he supposedly felt? A metallic object could be a ruler for crying out loud - fear of being mocked by the brahs or the threat of it not presenting as too greater threat in eyes of average Joe? Was it an illegal item? All will be revealed I guess, but something is off.

Why did he have to choke her……given the fact that this poor women was highly intoxicated…..why not just rip it out of her hand, surely it wouldn't be that hard. If mace spray didn't stop him in his tracks I'm sure Wrie would have been a push over.

 

[sosocurious]

Why did he have to choke her……given the fact that this poor women was highly intoxicated…..why not just rip it out of her hand, surely it wouldn't be that hard. If mace spray did stop him in his tracks I'm sure Wrie would have been a push over.

Agree emirates - if Rrie did get a grip of something it just seems to me to have been something that she could get her palm around very tightly.
I'm not thinking metallic.

 

[Camp Chair]

Why did he have to choke her……given the fact that this poor women was highly intoxicated…..why not just rip it out of her hand, surely it wouldn't be that hard. If mace spray didn't stop him in his tracks I'm sure Wrie would have been a push over.

Good point! Someone attempts to attack you with a weapon - you wouldn't go for their neck, you'd try to either block or disarm the person (if safe to do so of course!). I wonder if the item she was holding was at risk of being damaged if he tried to force it from her hand/s?

 

[SouthAussie]

Notice, too, that he does not say "Drop it, drop it ..."

He says "Let it go, let it go ..."

Struggle. Male states, 'let go. You think that you hit me and I was going to fall down like in the movies'. More laboured breathing sounds. Male states, 'let go of it. Let go. Let go.' More choking sounds.
2.18.46am: Still laboured breathing sounds. Breathing slows. Male, 'Let it go.'
2.19.35am: Sound of something dropping (metallic).


Then a full 45 secs later there is the metallic sound, something could have been knocked off the kitchen bench onto the tile floor even. A key?


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-final-struggle-plus-happened-afterwards.html

 

[sosocurious]

Notice, too, that he does not say "Drop it, drop it ..."

He says "Let it go, let it go ..."

Struggle. Male states, 'let go. You think that you hit me and I was going to fall down like in the movies'. More laboured breathing sounds. Male states, 'let go of it. Let go. Let go.' More choking sounds.
2.18.46am: Still laboured breathing sounds. Breathing slows. Male, 'Let it go.'
2.19.35am: Sound of something dropping (metallic).


Then a full 45 secs later there is the metallic sound, something could have been knocked off the kitchen bench onto the tile floor even. A key?


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-final-struggle-plus-happened-afterwards.html

Yep did notice that.
Was R'rie really trying to eat those fake rocks?
Maybe what she was trying to eat were the same rocks that went into the vodka on the rocks.
So many variable when you can hear (via a transcript) but not see.

 

[SouthAussie]

I guess Rrie could have grabbed his necklace and was holding onto that. It seems to be a prized possession that he wears all the time (pic at link). That is something that he wouldn't want to rip out of her hand in case the chain broke, then it broke anyway and fell to the tiled floor (in the kitchen or on the balcony, or even onto the table) with a metallic sound. Might have been enough to get him even more peed off too. Chucking his rocks around, breaking his necklace .....

http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au...pitality-circles/story-fnje8bkv-1227021253705


I imagine in their intimate scene he would not have been wearing a shirt - especially as he doesn't like the way his chest appears in a t-shirt - so she could have grabbed the necklace.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=140721881&p=801124921&viewfull=1#post801124921

 

[enzeder]

RSBM Here's another coincidence for you: SI, Aware, and THP have all stopped posting ever since the article came out about the vehement Tostee defender (with a lot of time on their hands) that was making the rounds on various forums...:thinking:

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...-pic-with-alpaca/story-fnn8dlfs-1227173028602

It posted on the BFF earlier today - the usual sneering and self righteous tone.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/gable-tostee-tinder-death.1073366/page-11#post-36634614

 

[SouthAussie]

It posted on the BFF earlier today - the usual sneering and self righteous tone.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/gable-tostee-tinder-death.1073366/page-11#post-36634614

:thud: Lawyer #4 coming up? ... or will this new one not care about the 'hating females' stuff?

 

[sosocurious]

Does he mention that R'rie was hitting him with a metal object to his father? Any object for that matter.

Not in this transcript maybe another.

Tostee - The last thing I remember was holding her down.

He explained to his father they had sex in the bed, is that important?
But not that he had been attacked with a metal object. odd imo

http://mobile.news.com.au/national/...leged-recordings/story-e6frfkp9-1227053364751

 

[SouthAussie]

Does he mention that R'rie was hitting him with a metal object to his father? Any object for that matter.

Not in this transcript maybe another.

Tostee - The last thing I remember was holding her down.

He explained to his father they had sex in the bed, is that important?
But not that he had been attacked with a metal object. odd imo

http://mobile.news.com.au/national/...leged-recordings/story-e6frfkp9-1227053364751

I don't recall reading anywhere that she was hitting him with an object. Just "did she think that if she hit him he'd fall down like in the movies". Could have been a muck around Muay Thai move, for all we know at the moment.

 

[sosocurious]

I don't recall reading anywhere that she was hitting him with an object. Just "did she think that if she hit him he'd fall down like in the movies". Could have been a muck around Muay Thai move, for all we know at the moment.

Absolutely SA

 

[Snoods]

It posted on the BFF earlier today - the usual sneering and self righteous tone.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/gable-tostee-tinder-death.1073366/page-11#post-36634614

I stand corrected! Or I lay corrected, since I'm lying down.

He's so abrasive! He doesn't have a chip on his shoulder, he has a boulder. And he can't stop himself from taking cheap shots at a poor girl who died a horrific death, can he?

So apparently the pictures of Rrie in the media with animals REALLY upsets him, eh? And his own pitiful attempt to look animal friendly with the alpaca totally backfired on him lol! He somehow managed to make it look like he was trying to put the moves on the poor thing. So awkward...

 

[SouthAussie]

I think that Tostee mistakenly thinks that he is a victim. But he is not. He had complete control over that situation. It was his apartment. Open the (front) door, out you go Rrie. Or he could have been even nicer and called a taxi, escorted her to it, and made sure she got back to her accommodation safely. Problem solved.

 

[enzeder]

I stand corrected! Or I lay corrected, since I'm lying down.

He's so abrasive! He doesn't have a chip on his shoulder, he has a boulder. And he can't stop himself from taking cheap shots at a poor girl who died a horrific death, can he?

So apparently the pictures of Rrie in the media with animals REALLY upsets him, eh? And his own pitiful attempt to look animal friendly with the alpaca totally backfired on him lol! He somehow managed to make it look like he was trying to put the moves on the poor thing. So awkward...

BBM - Totally

 

[Amee]

2:25am: Sound of metallic screwing or unscrewing

2:26am: Sounds of sirens in the background


http://new.widmi.com/index.php/aust...x-alcohol-and-violence-in-tostee-murder-trial

 

[SouthAussie]

2:25am: Sound of metallic screwing or unscrewing

2:26am: Sounds of sirens in the background


http://new.widmi.com/index.php/aust...x-alcohol-and-violence-in-tostee-murder-trial

I am wondering if that is the same metal that tinkled to the floor. :thinking: There seems to be no clear way to tell.

That sound came 6½ mins after the tinkling sound on the floor ... and after Rrie's murder, of course.