Australia - Warriena Wright, 26, dies in balcony fall, Surfers Paradise, Aug 2014 #5

[Gecko100]

Mr GT appears to prefer to evaluate evidence piecemeal, and not holistically. A highly dangerous event took place in NSW and over the QLD border. Driving at high speed, intoxicated, and with passengers in the car was reckless thoughtless, impulsive, and highly aggressive. Some time later, another event takes place where the victim dies. Aggression, alcohol, impulsiveness, recklessness and total disregard were obvious again.

As a whole Mr GT presents himself as quite unusual from a number of his peer group. He has sought advice from people who actually perceived him as 'weird' some even going as far as predicting this outcome on the BB forum. He is oblivious to castigation and still believes his actions to be those of a 'normal' 30 year old, when clearly from all available evidence taken as a complete picture - they are not. imo
His behaviour is very far from normal imo.
The insisting of detailed precision in reportage is an attempt to prevent looking at the bigger picture.
Whilst accurate details are important, the courts like the bigger picture because it points to patterns in behaviour, which are less obvious when nitpicking. imo
Mr GT exhibits many many patterns imo, he is not even conscious of them, but he leaks like sieve...-

 

[Gecko100]

That stuff on BB makes me shudder and my hair stand on end!
He's definitely got whole areas of development missing. imo
I agree with everyone - immaturity central!
Sometimes those guys on BB pick his deficiencies straight away, but he just carries on obliviously.
His accounts of the young women he meets are denigrating sexist and aggressively sexual.
He has zilch in the personality department!
Not a good look.
I was going to write a list of 'off' behaviour, but decided it would take forever lol.
Regardless of what we say, he'll either excuse, minimise, blame, or otherwise not take the responsible he was so passionate about in his letter to the police! imo
Quite ominously his self awareness is so impeded, that he fails to understand that obsessively posting details corrections precision all form the consistent patterns of behaviour he apparently denies. imo
There is a huge disconnect going on somewhere that allows him to behave indiscriminately, and it makes me wonder if there is some (sub-conscious) parental concession to his acting out like an adolescent?
I suspect that parental cohesion is not in agreement regarding his behaviour. Somebody excuses him, probably dad. imo

 

[SouthAussie]

Interesting thread, considering the subject and who opened the thread ... it is only short, worth a read-through.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=149239053&highlight=balcony

 

[sosocurious]

With Mr Tostee maintaining his silence to detectives DR Goldsworthy said it was "pretty stupid" that a man under investigation would make comments on social media.
"If you're not prepared to speak to the police, then I don't think you should be going on those forums where he was allegedly commenting" he said.

"The two actions don't gel and it makes it look disingenuous when he doesn't talk to the police."

http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/the-to...mysterious-balcony-death-20140814-104910.html

 

[FigTree]

IF he is innocent of any wrongdoing, he is perfectly within his rights to leave the scene. Even if it does not agree with your sensibilities.

In my opinion he would be 'Perfectly Wrong'.

 

[FigTree]

That is all your opinion only. Times have changed , and markedly so.

The fact is that younger people behave much differently than they did even one generation ago. They have random sex, People meet for "hookups" using tinder/grinder/etc. Gen Y are so self focussed now that relationships are nowhere near as important to man and women as they once were. Careers and being popular and having fun is what is important to them. If you arent aware of this, I assume you do not spend much time amongst Gen Y, most likely due to age differences.

What? You think Gen Y invented it? :facepalm:
:hilarious:

Evolutionary psychologists propose that a conditional human tendency for promiscuity is inherited from hunter-gatherer ancestors.
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Promiscuity increases the likelihood of having children, thus "evolutionary" fitness.
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The words 'womanizer', 'playboy', 'stud', 'player', 'ladies' man', 'lady killer', and 'rake' may be used in reference to a man who has romantic affairs or sexual relations, or both, with women, and who will not marry or commit to a relationship.
The names of real and fictional seducers have become eponymous for such promiscuous men. The most famous are Lord Byron,John F. Kennedy, Wilt Chamberlain, Howard Hughes, the historical Giacomo Casanova (1725–98),[SUP][20][/SUP] the fictional Don Juan, who first appeared in the 17th century, the fictional Vicomte de Valmont from Choderlos de Laclos's 18th-century novel Les Liaisons Dangereuses (Dangerous Liaisons), and Lothario from Nicholas Rowe's 1703 play The Fair Penitent. James Bond, Chuck Bass, James T. Kirk, Tony Stark, Bruce Wayne, Charlie Harper, Sam Malone, Joey Tribbiani, Popeye Doyle, Donald Draper, and Barney Stinson are fictional characters who can be considered womanizers.
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During the English Restoration period (1660–88), the term 'rake' was used glamorously: the Restoration rake is a carefree, witty, sexually irresistible aristocrat typified by Charles II's courtiers, the Earl of Rochester and the Earl of Dorset, who combined riotous living with intellectual pursuits and patronage of the arts.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Promiscuity

 

[sosocurious]

CCTV footage obtained by police allegedly shows Tostee in the building foyer soon after the tragedy.

Police will allege he hid behind a pillar as police surrounded Ms Wright’s body and can be seen pacing backwards and forwards.

He then allegedly got back into the lift, rode to the basement and left the building.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...n-the-gold-coast/story-fnihsrf2-1227026801082

He hid behind a pillar then headed for pizza via the basement.

 

[Gecko100]

In my opinion he would be 'Perfectly Wrong'.

The operant word here is If lol

 

[emirates1957]

What? You think Gen Y invented it? :facepalm:
:hilarious:

Touche !!

 

[SouthAussie]

What? You think Gen Y invented it? :facepalm:
:hilarious:

I know, right?! No-one over 30 has ever had sex with someone they just met, or been focused on their careers (even carpetlaying ones). :floorlaugh:

Must be. Because, ya know, they didn't have Tinder or Grinder. :lol:

 

[Gecko100]

He hid behind a pillar then headed for pizza via the basement.

Bit of a cowardly custard, or willful disregard imo. Take your pick, but add it to everything we know about his demeanour in general.

 

[Gecko100]

Didn't someone infamous write a book once called 'IF I Did It?

 

[emirates1957]

I know, right?! No-one over 30 has ever had random sex with someone they just met, or been focused on their careers (even carpetlaying ones). :floorlaugh:

Must be. Because, ya know, they didn't have Tinder or Grinder. :lol:

Let's face it the best times are going to be with somebody you feel totally uninhibited with, perhaps somebody you knew more than 30 minutes. I reckon Tostee has missed out on the best years of his life.

 

[Amee]

foolish and immature....

 

[sosocurious]

A better idea may be to open your eyes and see what is going on today.

Today we know that Mr Tostee

* Left the scene after a young woman had plunged from his 14th floor balcony.
* That he immediately tried to contact his lawyer
* That he did not dial 000
*That he caught the lift to the foyer and hid behind a pillar then via the basement left the building
* He had the victims I phone in his pocket. why?
* He phoned his father who assisted in him avoiding immediate police attention.
* He did not cooperative with police

http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au...trict-conditions/story-fnj94j0t-1227127491700
http://mobile.news.com.au/national/...leged-recordings/story-e6frfkp9-1227053364751

 

[SlinkiMalinki]

The way I look at it, at the end of the day, the way GT lived his life up to August 7th 2014 is not what is on trial.
It is what happened in the apartment in the hours and moments leading up to Warriena's death that will be the platform from which the Prosecution's case will be built on. Scouring through the Tinder logs may or may not be uncover anything of significance - that will be interesting to see. Both WW's and GT's toxicology results, reliable transcription of the audio recording, and statements of witnesses pertaining to that crucial period of approx. 1-4am of the morning of August 8th, GT's psych report, DNA/forensics evidence collected at the scene, and relevant medical/autopsy reports plus GT's examination under oath (if he testifies) will be the key factors that will be focussed on by Prosecution. Not the way he lived his life prior to meeting Warriena. All this discussion about his lifestyle, as documented by his BBF posts is moot when it comes to culpability towards Warriena's death.

All this IMO only and not written to upset or offend anyone.

 

[Celest]

Today we know that Mr Tostee

* Left the scene after a young woman had plunged from his 14th floor balcony.
* That he immediately tried to contact his lawyer
* That he did not dial 000
*That he caught the lift to the foyer and hid behind a pillar then via the basement left the building
* He had the victims I phone in his pocket. why?
* He phoned his father who assisted in him avoiding immediate police attention.
* He did not cooperative with police

http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au...trict-conditions/story-fnj94j0t-1227127491700
http://mobile.news.com.au/national/...leged-recordings/story-e6frfkp9-1227053364751

We also know, after objective analysis, that this is all perfectly legal, and that in the wash-up, the charges may well be dropped once his defence team is in full swing. But thanks for the "update" lol

 

[Bicept]

Today we know that Mr Tostee

* Left the scene after a young woman had plunged from his 14th floor balcony.
* That he immediately tried to contact his lawyer
* That he did not dial 000
*That he caught the lift to the foyer and hid behind a pillar then via the basement left the building
* He had the victims I phone in his pocket. why?
* He phoned his father who assisted in him avoiding immediate police attention.
* He did not cooperative with police

http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au...trict-conditions/story-fnj94j0t-1227127491700
http://mobile.news.com.au/national/...leged-recordings/story-e6frfkp9-1227053364751

He was never at the scene, which was near the entry of the building, nor could he have possibly been able to know what had happened until he left his apartment. All he saw was WW climb over his balcony and that was the last he saw of her. He never went on the balcony again.

He saw flashing lights as soon as he entered the lobby, so calling 000 would have been pointless. What reason would he have had at any point during the course of events to call 000?

The "not cooperate with police" is contradictory, he handed himself in for examination. How is that not cooperating? Other reports say he DID cooperate.

Drunkenness or mistake could explain why he had her phone. What reason would he have to keep it?

Everything else, he was well within his legal rights. Police were not searching for him. There was no warrant.

 

[Celest]

He was never at the scene, nor could he have possibly been able to know for sure what had happened until he left his apartment.

He saw flashing lights as soon as he entered the lobby, so calling 000 would have been pointless. What reason would he have had at any point during the course of events to call 000?

The "not cooperate with police" is contradictory, he handed himself in for examination. How is that not cooperating? Other reports say he DID cooperate.

Everything else, he was well within his legal rights. Police were not searching for him. There was no warrant.

It also needs to be said he presented to Police at 11am, right after meeting with his lawyer presumably at 9 am onwards. He presented in a prompt and timely fashion.

 

[Gecko100]

Don't know about anyone else, but me myself and I can't stop talking about me.